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sopas ej Mar 22, 2020 11:35 PM

Mango margaritas to go! With 2 orders of chicken mole enchiladas... you need to order takeout food to order takeout alcoholic beverages. ;). The very first time I ordered cocktails in to-go cups.
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...af&oe=5E9CC8B0
Photo by me


Taking advantage of California's temporary allowance of alcoholic beverages to-go.

sopas ej Mar 22, 2020 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8870313)
It's the difference between those with genuine faith (that God will protect them) and those who pay lip service to religion (usually members of one of the mainstream religions).

...Or evidence of the role that the hierarchy of clergy play in the Roman Catholic form of Christianity.

SpawnOfVulcan Mar 22, 2020 11:50 PM

This isn't something that I've noticed come up in local news, but if the 2020 Olympics are delayed until 2021 would have a huge impact on Birmingham. First, I'm most concerned about reducing the impact of this pandemic on the planet. However, Birmingham is to play host to the World Games in 2021 during the same time frame as a postponed Olympics. The World Games will/would be the single largest event ever held in Alabama, and the preparation that is going into hosting the world games (albeit a fraction of hosting the Olympics) is still pretty tremendous, especially for a city the size of Birmingham.

For those of you who don't know, The World Games is an event held every 4 years, just like the Olympics, that hosts global competition in sports that are not held during the olympics such as acrobatic gymnastics, ultimate frisbee, orienteering, karate, powerlifting, finswimming, squash, korfball, billiards, water skiing, dance sport, etc...

IMO, for the safety of those attending the Olympics and, more selfishly, to not throw the 2021 World Games in question, a decision really needs to be made soon by the IOC.

mrnyc Mar 22, 2020 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 8870540)
Mango margaritas to go! With 2 orders of chicken mole enchiladas... you need to order takeout food to order takeout alcoholic beverages. ;). The very first time I ordered cocktails in to-go cups.
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...af&oe=5E9CC8B0
Photo by me


Taking advantage of California's temporary allowance of alcoholic beverages to-go.


haha i was waiting to see this thanks. a sign of normalcy at least.

i got cans of beer with corner bistro burgers. i believe they make actual dranks to go too, not sure, i didnt ask.

iheartthed Mar 22, 2020 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8870480)
He didn't need to be just tested no matter the details if he was quite ill. Testing is helpful to tell those who are feeling just a bit "under the weather" or even those feeling well but thinking they were exposed (after the necessary wait of about 5 days) whether they are infected and need to self-quarantine, but those who are quite ill need medical care regardless of any coronavirus test result.

If hospitals wouldn't see a very sick person, regardless of what was making him sick, that's awful. He should get a lawyer and sue the pants off them.

What's necessary is what I suggested above and some hospitals are doing: Setting up separate facilities (in tents if necessary) to screen those with possible coronavirus symptoms in a separate location from people with all manner of other medical problems. And for those who, when screened (including a test, preferably the new bedside test now coming only, not the PCR test everybody wants), do need hospitalization, there needs to be separate facilties for those with coronavirus and the rest. Sokme places are doing this. If West Virginia isn't, that's a problem.

I read the article and find nothing surprising in it. Whether and what medical care the guy needed shouldn't have been up to a test. It should have been based on his medical condition with the test used to determine where he got care, not whether. And we all should know there are probably hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of people who have contracted coronavirus out there but haven't had it confirmed with a test. If they are critical workers--cops, firemen, medical people--and they feel well, they need testing to see if they can work. The rest should just stay home and self-isolate.

He needed to be tested to know that 1 - he was infected with a highly contagious disease and was a public health risk, and 2 - to know the broader implications for the public safety of West Virginia.

jtown,man Mar 23, 2020 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iheartthed (Post 8870317)
It's mind-boggling that there isn't more emphasis put on churches. We've already seen in South Korea how churches can be the epicenter of a major outbreak. I think something like half of that country's cases were tied back to a single church.

Not to make this political, but there is clearly a tendency to downplay the virus in right-leaning states, and that has led to mixed responses to halt the spread at the local level. I think when it's all said and done the worst places will end up being those states. If we're still locked down in June or July, it will be because of states that are not taking it seriously right now.

Black churches aren't typically right-leaning folks.

jtown,man Mar 23, 2020 12:19 AM

It felt weird today driving. Me and the girlfriend were driving to Target but I took us on a detour to check out some nice homes near Hyde Park. Well, every time I saw a cop I was like WERE GONNA SAY WERE GOING TO THE TACO BELL DOWN THE ROAD because we were just roaming around. Obviously I wasn't scared of the cops but it's a weird weird world we're living in now.

Pedestrian Mar 23, 2020 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iheartthed (Post 8870574)
He needed to be tested to know that 1 - he was infected with a highly contagious disease and was a public health risk, and 2 - to know the broader implications for the public safety of West Virginia.

Being dead, he had a serious condition that required hospitalization regardless of the cause. The hospital needed to test him to know where to put him and they probably could if he went there rather than seek some open-to the-public testing site. Most ERs can now test and can appropriately handle suspected cases until results are available (although that ability could be overwhelmed unless the bedside test gets to them quickly).

This was about a person who supposedly (per the media) died because he couldn't get a test. That's BS. He died because he didn't sensibly seek medical care when he should have. As for the "broader implications for the public safety of West Virginia", West VA's got a big problem and it's not entirely about testing. It's about several things such as rural medical capability even pre-coronavirus and also about denial on the part of its citizens who even this morning were crowding together at churches all over the state.

I agree more testing of the "worried well" would be nice from an epidemiologic standpoint but nobody who's so sick they are in danger of death should not be seeking medical care for lack of a test that tells THEM (as opposed to their doctor) what's wrong with them.

Quote:

In pro-Trump West Virginia, a fight to convince residents a pandemic is coming
A hospital struggles to prepare a community for a virus many still don’t see as a serious threat

iheartthed Mar 23, 2020 1:01 AM

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llamaorama Mar 23, 2020 2:04 AM

I get the feeling that Houston's current urban construction boom will end. Not because of the virus per se, but because oil is now like $20 a barrel. The city's economy is in deep trouble and we don't know it yet. I'm hoping that because this was more like a natural disaster than a market one like in 2008, the recession this year will be a small one. But I'm afraid that for Houston it will be ugly.

All I hope for is that my company comes out unscathed and I have a job here for another 2 years or however long it takes for this area in general to recover.

I also get the feeling this is the end of the great historic boom where Houston had managed to add millions in a couple of decades. I think our future growth will slow down a lot. Dallas will probably cement its population lead over us and Austin will take a bigger share of relocations from other states to Texas.

In a way it might be good, less gentrification and it will be easier for people in my generation to buy houses, etc. But on the other hand I don't think the impressive growth in density can continue. Urbanistically, Houston is probably heading for stagnation. The two high rises going up downtown will probably be the last for a very long time.

JManc Mar 23, 2020 2:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llamaorama (Post 8870677)
I get the feeling that Houston's current urban construction boom will end. Not because of the virus per se, but because oil is now like $20 a barrel. The city's economy is in deep trouble and we don't know it yet. I'm hoping that because this was more like a natural disaster than a market one like in 2008, the recession this year will be a small one. But I'm afraid that for Houston it will be ugly.

All I hope for is that my company comes out unscathed and I have a job here for another 2 years or however long it takes for this area in general to recover.

I also get the feeling this is the end of the great historic boom where Houston had managed to add millions in a couple of decades. I think our future growth will slow down a lot. Dallas will probably cement its population lead over us and Austin will take a bigger share of relocations from other states to Texas.

In a way it might be good, less gentrification and it will be easier for people in my generation to buy houses, etc. But on the other hand I don't think the impressive growth in density can continue. Urbanistically, Houston is probably heading for stagnation. The two high rises going up downtown will probably be the last for a very long time.

Everyone will feel the effects from the virus but Houston and other petro cities are going really feel the pain with rock bottom oil prices. My wife works in oil and gas and they are in panic mode. Hopefully it will be short lived since it is artificially by Russia/ Saudi.

Acajack Mar 23, 2020 2:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpawnOfVulcan (Post 8870564)
This isn't something that I've noticed come up in local news, but if the 2020 Olympics are delayed until 2021 would have a huge impact on Birmingham. First, I'm most concerned about reducing the impact of this pandemic on the planet. However, Birmingham is to play host to the World Games in 2021 during the same time frame as a postponed Olympics. The World Games will/would be the single largest event ever held in Alabama, and the preparation that is going into hosting the world games (albeit a fraction of hosting the Olympics) is still pretty tremendous, especially for a city the size of Birmingham.

For those of you who don't know, The World Games is an event held every 4 years, just like the Olympics, that hosts global competition in sports that are not held during the olympics such as acrobatic gymnastics, ultimate frisbee, orienteering, karate, powerlifting, finswimming, squash, korfball, billiards, water skiing, dance sport, etc...

IMO, for the safety of those attending the Olympics and, more selfishly, to not throw the 2021 World Games in question, a decision really needs to be made soon by the IOC.

Canada will not be going to the Tokyo Olympics.

Breaking news.

Acajack Mar 23, 2020 2:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtown,man (Post 8870591)
Black churches aren't typically right-leaning folks.

I think that depends on one's definition of "right".

sopas ej Mar 23, 2020 2:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8870691)
Canada will not be going to the Tokyo Olympics.

Breaking news.

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...9e&oe=5E9D38CE

llamaorama Mar 23, 2020 2:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JManc (Post 8870681)
Everyone will feel the effects from the virus but Houston and other petro cities are going really feel the pain with rock bottom oil prices. My wife works in oil and gas and they are in panic mode. Hopefully it will be short lived since it is artificially by Russia/ Saudi.

My company is not oil and gas, but manufactures things for the building industry, specifically big buildings like high rises, sports stadiums, resorts, etc. I think a lot of our customers come from our local connections, we export our products made here to construction sites in the Middle East.

Oil being low -> bust -> few big construction projects -> bad for us? It's all interconnected. Houston's still hideously dependent on oil. I saw somewhere that perhaps "only" 9% of our jobs are in oil and gas, but then something like 23% are in manufacturing of which the vast majority is oil and gas related equipment and steel pipe or tank fabrication or maritime stuff for offshore, etc. And someone mentioned all those generous health plans support our healthcare industry quite a bit.

We are so screwed...

JManc Mar 23, 2020 3:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llamaorama (Post 8870711)
My company is not oil and gas, but manufactures things for the building industry, specifically big buildings like high rises, sports stadiums, resorts, etc. I think a lot of our customers come from our local connections, we export our products made here to construction sites in the Middle East.

Oil being low -> bust -> few big construction projects -> bad for us? It's all interconnected. Houston's still hideously dependent on oil. I saw somewhere that perhaps "only" 9% of our jobs are in oil and gas, but then something like 23% are in manufacturing of which the vast majority is oil and gas related equipment and steel pipe or tank fabrication or maritime stuff for offshore, etc. And someone mentioned all those generous health plans support our healthcare industry quite a bit.

We are so screwed...

I'm wrapping up my MBA and re-entering the workforce in a few months and man, what a terrible time to reintegrate. I may end up working out of state for a while until things recover here because i totally agree..we are screwed.

chris08876 Mar 23, 2020 3:16 AM

Its a good time to take some online classes.

chris08876 Mar 23, 2020 3:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JManc (Post 8870741)
I'm wrapping up my MBA and re-entering the workforce in a few months and man, what a terrible time to reintegrate. I may end up working out of state for a while until things recover here because i totally agree..we are screwed.

Would you consider coming back to NJ or NY? An MBA offers a lot of opportunities in the tri-state.

JManc Mar 23, 2020 3:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 8870754)
Would you consider coming back to NJ or NY? An MBA offers a lot of opportunities in the tri-state.

I would. I looked at NYC/ NJ as well as the West Coast for my internship.

gentlepuppies Mar 23, 2020 3:44 AM

Anyone working in architecture feeling impacts on job security? I've been working at home for the last month (2 weeks quarantine after a vacation, then our firm started working from home 2 weeks ago), and I'm on some massive government contract, so nothing so far, but who knows. I was originally thinking of quitting to do smaller project types, but now maybe that will wait lol.

RCDC Mar 23, 2020 4:40 AM

Hopefully this will blow over soon so we can get back to raping the planet for profit.

bnk Mar 23, 2020 5:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RCDC (Post 8870794)
Hopefully this will blow over soon so we can get back to raping the planet for profit.

Yeah

I’ll right you a letter

So you van continue to flying overseeabd Every one will Judy get back to work.

And rest you in a few days


Btw I’d that what your mommy told you you precious snowflake


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jmecklenborg Mar 23, 2020 6:14 AM

It's safe to say that the working class and the abject poor are not taking social distancing seriously. All of the drug dealers are at their usual spots, as are the working girls. I work at a restaurant on the weekends and our carryout and delivery business is serving a lot of parties with sheet pizzas and 50+ wing orders.

Escaping to vacation homes or just "working remotely" from your primary residence is a privilege of the white collar world.

Pedestrian Mar 23, 2020 6:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JManc (Post 8870741)
I'm wrapping up my MBA and re-entering the workforce in a few months and man, what a terrible time to reintegrate. I may end up working out of state for a while until things recover here because i totally agree..we are screwed.

It occurred to me the other day: Millennials have been p*ssed at the rest of us for "The Great Recession" and the skyrocketing cost of college since they got old enough to think about such matters (around the age Greta Thunberg got started). Now just as they are finding careers and getting them off the launching pad, THIS.

The only thing to compare it with, really, is the so-called "Greatest Generation" that went through the Depression and then WW II. But to become known as a new "greatest" they'd really have to grow up quickly and cut out the "party's not over 'till it's over" mentality currently displayed all over the media. I hope they are up to it.

Centropolis Mar 23, 2020 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8870846)
It occurred to me the other day: Millennials have been p*ssed at the rest of us for "The Great Recession" and the skyrocketing cost of college since they got old enough to think about such matters (around the age Greta Thunberg got started). Now just as they are finding careers and getting them off the launching pad, THIS.

The only thing to compare it with, really, is the so-called "Greatest Generation" that went through the Depression and then WW II. But to become known as a new "greatest" they'd really have to grow up quickly and cut out the "party's not over 'till it's over" mentality currently displayed all over the media. I hope they are up to it.

my career path is just now recovering from the stumbling start i had when i entered the professional workforce months before the great recession (after having to scramble and get a second stem-related degree after realizing that years of boomers telling me “you just need a degree...any degree” was bad advice). i’ve had to spend years doing the work of entry level staff as they were laid off (and later just never rehired) plus be expected to take on retiring boomers responsibility - all without the “normal” pay progression.

i dont know what you are seeing in the media but those are early twenty-somethings and not millennials...they were children during the recession... im looking towards 40.

Centropolis Mar 23, 2020 10:53 AM

today i have to go do entry level fieldwork (deemed “essential”) because we’ve laid off entry level staff. the only thing going for me is that my salary was so fucking low during the recession that my billing rate is STILL depressed.

Centropolis Mar 23, 2020 10:57 AM

other people on here say the 70s/80s were tough but that doesn't jive with my parents experience as professionals then, even in the rustbelt. it WAS NOT like this for college educated boomers.

jtown,man Mar 23, 2020 11:24 AM

I don't understand why people think that the O&G industry is seriously screwed. Screwed in the short-term? No doubt. But in the long-term? absolutely not.

Life as we know it will go back to normal, therefore gas usage will go back to normal. Not only that, I think there will be a huge surge in gas usage right after all this is over as people rebook trips etc. Also, people like me who never owned O&G stocks now do because I see some medium-term profit from them.

Crawford Mar 23, 2020 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmecklenborg (Post 8870824)
It's safe to say that the working class and the abject poor are not taking social distancing seriously. All of the drug dealers are at their usual spots, as are the working girls. I work at a restaurant on the weekends and our carryout and delivery business is serving a lot of parties with sheet pizzas and 50+ wing orders.

I picked up pizza from a relatively upscale joint on Saturday, and a couple was carrying 8 pizzas out. And the proprietor said delivery was booming (not surprising). But clearly 8 pizzas indicates social gathering. And who doesn't just get that delivered? I doubt it was trying to save on fee/tip because this pizza place costs 2x that of typical places.

10023 Mar 23, 2020 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8870846)
It occurred to me the other day: Millennials have been p*ssed at the rest of us for "The Great Recession" and the skyrocketing cost of college since they got old enough to think about such matters (around the age Greta Thunberg got started). Now just as they are finding careers and getting them off the launching pad, THIS.

The only thing to compare it with, really, is the so-called "Greatest Generation" that went through the Depression and then WW II. But to become known as a new "greatest" they'd really have to grow up quickly and cut out the "party's not over 'till it's over" mentality currently displayed all over the media. I hope they are up to it.

Or they just really don’t care if more older folks die this year than normal.

ChiMIchael Mar 23, 2020 1:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8870846)
It occurred to me the other day: Millennials have been p*ssed at the rest of us for "The Great Recession" and the skyrocketing cost of college since they got old enough to think about such matters (around the age Greta Thunberg got started). Now just as they are finding careers and getting them off the launching pad, THIS.

The only thing to compare it with, really, is the so-called "Greatest Generation" that went through the Depression and then WW II. But to become known as a new "greatest" they'd really have to grow up quickly and cut out the "party's not over 'till it's over" mentality currently displayed all over the media. I hope they are up to it.

I don't know why the media finds it hard to distinguish Millenials from Gen-Zer. Most millenials are too old and have too many responsibilities to "party 'til it's over." The people the keep going to beaches and bars are of a younger generation.

Can some answer why the recovery rates are so deplorable in the West?

niwell Mar 23, 2020 1:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Centropolis (Post 8870901)
my career path is just now recovering from the stumbling start i had when i entered the professional workforce months before the great recession (after having to scramble and get a second stem-related degree after realizing that years of boomers telling me “you just need a degree...any degree” was bad advice). i’ve had to spend years doing the work of entry level staff as they were laid off (and later just never rehired) plus be expected to take on retiring boomers responsibility - all without the “normal” pay progression.

i dont know what you are seeing in the media but those are early twenty-somethings and not millennials...they were children during the recession... im looking towards 40.


Yep. The youngest millenials are approaching mid 20s, with the oldest almost 40. Many in my age range had to deal with graduating around the great recession and stumbling through a host of internships and other underpaid "professional" work (as you describe) before beginning to have anything approaching a stable career. I'm personally in a pretty good place but for a lot of people I know this has the potential to shatter all of that, and in some cases already has.

hauntedheadnc Mar 23, 2020 2:21 PM

Apparently, closing up shop and boarding up the windows isn't just fashionable in big cities. Photos have been circulating on local Twitter accounts of several businesses on Haywood Road in West Asheville closed and boarded up for the duration... However long that may be.

Meanwhile at Firestorm Books, also on Haywood Road:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETjzbTKX...jpg&name=small
Source.

subterranean Mar 23, 2020 2:40 PM

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Originally Posted by niwell (Post 8870937)
Yep. The youngest millenials are approaching mid 20s, with the oldest almost 40. Many in my age range had to deal with graduating around the great recession and stumbling through a host of internships and other underpaid "professional" work (as you describe) before beginning to have anything approaching a stable career. I'm personally in a pretty good place but for a lot of people I know this has the potential to shatter all of that, and in some cases already has.

I turned 39 this year and this is so close to my personal experience it's eerie.

SIGSEGV Mar 23, 2020 2:41 PM

My research group is starting twice-daily zoom calls just to say hi and pretend like we're in a real collegial environment :haha:

subterranean Mar 23, 2020 2:48 PM

I'm a planner and we meet every morning via teams for morale. It's actually kind of nice, and I'm an introvert.

SteveD Mar 23, 2020 2:54 PM

Georgia
 
It seems like Georgia has a "Stay at Home" order announcement coming at 5 today.

As a work-from-home independent consultant this will bring my ability to earn a living to a screeching halt. Every job I ever have requires traveling to a project site either by car or air.

MonkeyRonin Mar 23, 2020 2:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gentlepuppies (Post 8870763)
Anyone working in architecture feeling impacts on job security? I've been working at home for the last month (2 weeks quarantine after a vacation, then our firm started working from home 2 weeks ago), and I'm on some massive government contract, so nothing so far, but who knows. I was originally thinking of quitting to do smaller project types, but now maybe that will wait lol.


Yeah. Construction has mostly ground to a halt due to shut downs in the supply chain, and most of our income comes once a project is completed; and so no construction means no income.

There's still plenty of design work to do, but with limited cash flow, we're going to be temporarily laid off in the next 2-3 weeks unless job sites can get back to work.

sopas ej Mar 23, 2020 3:03 PM

To maximize social distancing at my job, our office has given people the option to work four 10-hour days, with one day off during the week, with people having different days off during the week. Today is the first day of that.

Even though I have my own office and it's in a corner of the building away from others, my boss gave me that option---which I declined. I already consider 8 hours + 1 hour of lunch a really long day, let alone working 10 hours plus 1 hour of lunch (though people were given the half hour lunch option too of course)...

...Plus, 10 hours is a really long time to fake it on those days when you really don't feel like working and you just fake it!!! :P

Steely Dan Mar 23, 2020 3:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveD (Post 8870999)
It seems like Georgia has a "Stay at Home" order announcement coming at 5 today.

michigan's governor is expected to announce "stay at home" statewide today as well.

what is that now, like 10 states that are officially "stay at home" statewide?

dominoes....... _ _ _ / l l l l l

Acajack Mar 23, 2020 3:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 8871007)
To maximize social distancing at my job, our office has given people the option to work four 10-hour days, with one day off during the week, with people having different days off during the week. Today is the first day of that.

Even though I have my own office and it's in a corner of the building away from others, my boss gave me that option---which I declined. I already consider 8 hours + 1 hour of lunch a really long day, let alone working 10 hours plus 1 hour of lunch (though people were given the half hour lunch option too of course)...

...Plus, 10 hours is a really long time to fake it on those days when you really don't feel like working and you just fake it!!! :P


Isn't that what SSP is for?

Innsertnamehere Mar 23, 2020 3:22 PM

I’m a planner on the private side and it’s work from home but business as usual for now. Most municipalities have shut down but are still accepting applications (except toronto.. of course toronto is closed full out). Work has shifted to preparing applications and doing other work that largely doesn’t require communications with municipalities.. we’ll see how long that lasts.

SteveD Mar 23, 2020 3:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 8871024)
michigan's governor is expected to announce "stay at home" statewide today as well.

what is that now, like 10 states that are officially "stay at home" statewide?

dominoes....... _ _ _ / l l l l l

yeah....8 this morning...Georgia and Michigan would make ten, and, I'm sure, easily over half the US population, if that's not already the case...

sopas ej Mar 23, 2020 3:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8871025)
Isn't that what SSP is for?

Haha yes, among other websites.

But still, you can only look at the same websites for so long...

Steely Dan Mar 23, 2020 3:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveD (Post 8871044)
yeah....8 this morning...Georgia and Michigan would make ten, and, I'm sure, easily over half the US population, if that's not already the case...

not quite yet, closer to 1/3. but yeah, lots of big population states so far - CA, NY, IL, OH, GA, MI, NJ.

and from the recent data, florida and texas absolutely should be on that list too. once they are, then yeah, well over half.

Acajack Mar 23, 2020 3:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 8871045)
Haha yes, among other websites.

But still, you can only look at the same websites for so long...

Though this place is often the gift that keeps on giving. Multiple discussions on multiple topics - and we're all loudmouths by nature so we always have something to say!

hauntedheadnc Mar 23, 2020 3:40 PM

My favorite coffee shop is closing tomorrow at 12. When will they reopen? God knows. In other news, apparently my cat's dick has crystallized or something, so he's constantly trying to piss and apparently the only remedy is prescription cat food that costs $30 a bag. Meanwhile my husband still has to go to work, same as always, interacting with other healthcare professionals who have probably all been exposed after a suspected case of it at his facility was tested 2 weeks ago, but no one will tell anyone what the goddamned results were. Plus we have to worry if the increasing travel restrictions will prevent him from completing the clinicals he needs to graduate, when he's only got two weeks left of the fucking things.

On the other hand, I do enjoy it, if I'm going to have chest pains from the stress, for there to be enough stress to make it really worth it. Otherwise I just feel cheated.

iheartthed Mar 23, 2020 3:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtown,man (Post 8870909)
I don't understand why people think that the O&G industry is seriously screwed. Screwed in the short-term? No doubt. But in the long-term? absolutely not.

Life as we know it will go back to normal, therefore gas usage will go back to normal. Not only that, I think there will be a huge surge in gas usage right after all this is over as people rebook trips etc. Also, people like me who never owned O&G stocks now do because I see some medium-term profit from them.

I haven't been paying a ton of attention to oil & gas with everything else going on, but I think the issue there isn't just related to the economy. I think it's also a power struggle between Saudi Arabia and Russia that is unrelated to coronavirus.

SteveD Mar 23, 2020 3:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 8871047)
not quite yet, closer to 1/3. but yeah, lots of big population states so far - CA, NY, IL, OH, GA, MI, NJ.

and from the recent data, florida and texas absolutely should be on that list too. once they are, then yeah, well over half.

My sister lives in FL and she's got a "connection" that says it's coming to FL on Wednesday.

iheartthed Mar 23, 2020 3:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8870846)
It occurred to me the other day: Millennials have been p*ssed at the rest of us for "The Great Recession" and the skyrocketing cost of college since they got old enough to think about such matters (around the age Greta Thunberg got started). Now just as they are finding careers and getting them off the launching pad, THIS.

The only thing to compare it with, really, is the so-called "Greatest Generation" that went through the Depression and then WW II. But to become known as a new "greatest" they'd really have to grow up quickly and cut out the "party's not over 'till it's over" mentality currently displayed all over the media. I hope they are up to it.

Millennials have gone through 9/11, a financial collapse, and we're probably staring at another financial catastrophe. And... as if it needed to be said... if this is another financial collapse, it will also be the fault of irresponsible Baby Boomers.


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