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CaliNative Jun 15, 2022 8:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9649016)
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Well, he just showed up again on eBay. This time, posing with his mother in front of Mike Lyman's Flight Deck at Los Angeles International Airport. (c.1954)
I'd love to know where they're going. (or coming from)
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There used to be a restaurant like this at Burbank Airport, which used to be called "Lockheed Airport" because they owned it and had most of their plants nearby. I recall it was on the second floor of the terminal, and had pretty good food, burgers, etc. I was a kid and we lived near the airport in No. Hollywood, so my family would go there sometimes on long summer days when it was still daylight after 7 PM and we'd eat dinner and watch the planes land and take off. It was air conditioned, so was comfortable on hot days in the Valley. Plane watching was still popular in the 1950s and '60s, and airports were exciting. Does anybody remember the name or have images of the Lockheed Airport restaurant? Did the Long Beach airport have a similar restaurant?

John Maddox Roberts Jun 15, 2022 2:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9650120)
There used to be a restaurant like this at Burbank Airport, which used to be called "Lockheed Airport" because they owned it and had most of their plants nearby. I recall it was on the second floor of the terminal, and had pretty good food, burgers, etc. I was a kid and we lived near the airport in No. Hollywood, so my family would go there sometimes on long summer days when it was still daylight after 7 PM and we'd eat dinner and watch the planes land and take off. It was air conditioned, so was comfortable on hot days in the Valley. Plane watching was still popular in the 1950s and '60s, and airports were exciting. Does anybody remember the name or have images of the Lockheed Airport restaurant? Did the Long Beach airport have a similar restaurant?


The (much smaller) Santa Barbara airport had a similar upstairs restaurant/bar.

John Maddox Roberts Jun 15, 2022 2:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudyJK (Post 9649955)
She is fabulous and he is quite a dapper young man. Love the second photo with the kid's hands hanging off mom's shoulders in the equally interesting family at the right.

The family on the right is a veritable statement of the time. One on her back, leading a second by the hand and a third on the way. This was the most common of sights in those early Baby Boom days. Southern CA wasn't about retirees. It was all about young couples producing little Boomers like me and the boy in these photos.

Mackerm Jun 15, 2022 3:22 PM

There was some discussion of the Burbank airport's Sky Room on pages 2767-2768.

Martin Turnbull's page has some more pictures.

Martin Pal Jun 15, 2022 5:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9649735)
.I initially thought this might be a Culver City location because. . .um. . .I thought that was a munchkin at bottom deciding where to eat lunch.

In particular, this guy.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/2...922/TYXZuz.jpgMGM.
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You crack me up, E_R; love it!

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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9649824)
https://i.postimg.cc/CKnkX455/Eatons...aefli-p170.jpg
Book John Wayne Was Here, by Roland Schaefli, p. 170.
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I can attest to the McDonald's at that location. It was right at Radford Ave. which t-bones Ventura Blvd. there. McDonald's address was listed as 11970 Ventura Blvd, Studio City, CA 91604. (Any addresses of buildings there and nearby could vary over the years, because buildings were built behind the street facing businesses over time, but with Ventura Blvd. addresses.)

This particular McDonald's had an homage themed interior spotlighting western moviemaking which was to honor Republic Studios down the street, I'd imagine. The decor was western and had props, including old-style movie cameras. At some point the McDonald's restaurants with themes in L.A. have pretty much disappeared. All the extra trimmings removed or revamped, like the one on Vine Street near Sunset Blvd. that was an homage to Casablanca, complete with an upright piano that visitors could play if they wanted to.

Looking on GSV, that Studio City McDonald's was there in November, 2016, but gone by February of 2017, so it lasted 40 years. It appears to have been remodeled and opened as the Mendocino Farms Sandwich Market.

The nearby Du-Par's Restuarant, 12036 Ventura Blvd. closed Jan. 1, 2018 after being at that location for 70 years. According to L.A. Eater at the time: The Du-Par’s team remains adamant that they will be back in Studio City at some point, with a whole new location, but so far they don’t have a line on exactly when or where that will take place. Reached for comment, one worker said that the restaurant certainly wasn’t closing “for lack of customers or bad food,” but rather a stalled lease renegotiation. A year later this location was occupied by Sephora.

This Studio City Du-Par's was the very first place I ate on the day I arrived in Los Angeles, April 1st...back in the day! :)

HossC Jun 15, 2022 6:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9650118)

Good Posting Etiquette

Time to remind people, especially new visitors, not to bring down long stacks of photos from the posts you are commenting on. It uses page space, and the pages fill up faster making it less likely people will read or see other new posts before the page advances. I used to do that, but learned it is annoying to other posters, so when I comment now I usually scroll back and eliminate the redundant images from my reply, using the "x" back arrow. Or just highlight in blue, and hit back arrow to do it faster. If I am just commenting on one of the images, I may leave that one in my reply. This way pages stay up longer before they fill up and advance to the next page.

I thoroughly agree about removing superfluous images from quoted posts as it just means more scrolling and it's not always easy to see which image the reply is about, but each page is limited to 20 posts (unless you've changed your forum settings), so the extra images don't change when the next page is reached.

When deleting unwanted parts of quotes, please be careful to leave the line at the top that starts QUOTE= and the one at the bottom that ends /QUOTE (and their square brackets). This will provide a link back to the original post. I've seen the formatting of many posts screwed up by a missing square bracket, and I've given up letting people know how to fix them as no one bothered! Feel free to PM me if you want further tips.

For those new to the forum, if you're commenting on the post directly above, most times the previous (:previous:) arrows are good enough to show what you're reacting to (just type : previous : without the spaces).

badrunner Jun 15, 2022 8:05 PM

I love those matched-up "then and now" images. Here's Broadway 1959 vs 2019:

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IVOHP30ST...alace-1959.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/C11P2cQ1/broadway2019.png

https://losangelestheatres.blogspot....ior-views.html
https://youtu.be/lTvYjERVAnY?t=927

odinthor Jun 15, 2022 8:13 PM

I just want to add for new or infrequent posters, we welcome and appreciate your postings; and because all of us were new once, we all understand how it can take time to learn our ways. Don't feel intimidated or put off in the meantime--we value your contributions to the thread.

:cheers:

CaliNative Jun 15, 2022 10:53 PM

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CaliNative Jun 15, 2022 10:59 PM

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Good advice Hoss & Odinthor. I didn't realize that all pages flip at 20 posts no matter how many pics there are, although the superfluous and redundant photos/text can be annoying. The "previous" use is essential to posters. Like Odinthor says, new posters are welcome to keep a blog fresh and we'll be tolerant as they learn. It took me long enough. I think you two gave me pointers on occasion :cheers:

CaliNative Jun 15, 2022 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mackerm (Post 9650376)
There was some discussion of the Burbank airport's Sky Room on pages 2767-2768.

Martin Turnbull's page has some more pictures.

Thanks. Didn't remember how fancy the Burbank "Sky Room" was! I was just a kid back in the late '50s/early '60s. I do remember watching the prop planes land and take off and that the food was good and the air cool in the summer heat of the Valley.

The planes landing and taking off on the N-S runway flew over the Valhalla Memorial Park cemetery just across the street from the airport. This is where comedian Oliver Hardy is buried, as well as the flamboyant wrestler "Gorgeous George" Wagner, 1920's star Mae Murray, the last stooge "Curly Joe" DeRita, and the psychic Criswell who was often on the Johnny Carson show. There are a greater number of more minor celebrities, like the actress Aneta Corsaut who played Miss Crump, Andy's school teacher lady friend and Opie's teacher on the Andy Griffith Show. This is not a Hollywood Forever Cemetery or Forest Lawn, with countless big stars, but Oliver Hardy, "Gorgeous George" Wagner, Mae Murray and maybe Ms. Crump and Criswell are worth a visit if in the area. If I left out any celebrities, please add them.

Wagner brought pizazz to the ring. Mohammad Ali said he learned a lot of his style and self promotion from Gorgeous George, like how he was the "greatest of all time" and "prettiest" fighter. Playing a foppish dandy, George would have a valet spray perfume as he entered the ring. At first the crowd couldn't figure him out, and booed. Later he became popular and his act made him rich long before the WWE came along.

I haven't been there in decades, and not sure if the grounds are still nicely maintained, but the cemetery used to be a nice place to take a walk. Very park-like with lots of monuments, including one to the pioneers of aviation. I would guess that many aviation pioneers are buried there.

ethereal_reality Jun 16, 2022 12:55 AM

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MartinPal, it turns out my "munchkin" is spilt coffee.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/TikVin.jpg

......................................................At least I hope it's coffee! ...





Thanks for the information on Eaton's Rancho HossC and odinthor.

That was interesting about the outdoor furniture, RudyJK. We appreciate your input.


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Abellaava Jun 16, 2022 4:55 PM

night dresses for girl in pakistan

GaylordWilshire Jun 16, 2022 6:21 PM

:previous:


Hmmm--not going to be the first one to open that link...


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Moving right along...here's an ad I ran across recently--had to check to see if it still stands, and it does.


https://i.postimg.cc/PJnjYy5w/eltempoad.png
LAT Aug 16, 1936


https://i.postimg.cc/85KvCFp9/eltemponow-bmp.jpg


And what would a vintage LA apartment building be without a little noir?


https://i.postimg.cc/y65TsGrj/nlabodheadline-bmp.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/WpQfXtjs/nlabodarticle-bmp.jpg
LAT Dec 14, 1938

HossC Jun 16, 2022 8:30 PM

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For some reason, I think the El Tempo Apartments look better in the 1936 advert, even though the only obvious difference is the height of the trees. Then I checked StreetView, and found that the building was painted white up until about 2011. I don't know whether this was the original color, but in my opinion, it looked much better with the white walls contrasting with the red awnings and roof tiles.

Mackerm Jun 17, 2022 5:37 AM

Does this map show an enormous spring described by members of the Portola Expedition
 
Does a map show an enormous spring described by members of the Portola Expedition in 1769?


The Portolá expedition was the first exploration of interior areas of California by Europeans.


https://i.postimg.cc/g0MxNMZC/CHS-42269.jpg
Hathitrust. Fray Juan Crespi, missionary explorer on the Pacific coast, 1769-1774 by Herbert Eugene Bolton p. 128

https://i.postimg.cc/KznVcFjh/Portol...ition-7-31.jpg
Visions of California. Tracing the Trail of the Portolá Expedition in Orange County - San Juan Capistrano Visitor Series Part 3

The top map is from an old book which contains a basic translation of the journals of Fray (friar) Juan Crespi, the most descriptive of the writers.

The second map is from a project to plot the course of the expedition through Orange County. This is the very last map on their blog, which goes into Los Angeles County. They reference a more recent translation of the expedition journals, called A description of distant roads: Original journals of the first expedition into California, 1769-1770 which is much better researched. I don't have access to this book, but the blog contains useful excerpts.

On July 31, 1769, Crespi wrote:
"Some soldiers who went a little distance off from the camp to try to hunt….reported that to the southward…there is a good-sized gap in the range, they came across another very full-flowing, wide river, much larger than the Dulcisimo Nombre de Jesús [Santa Ana River] one behind us, and they say that the river takes its rise upon the very spot from an exceedingly copious spring which boils up out of the ground in great thick surges, giving rise to this large river.”
Portola wrote
in this “valley we discovered, on the south side between two mountains, a spring that flowed like a river, giving evidence of deep soil.”
Costansó added that the soldiers discovered:
“a river of fine water – from sixteen to seventeen yards wide – that rises near the gab of the valley to the south, and at the foot of a low hill that was in sight of our camp, and, at the most, half a league distant.”

The Homestead Blog
gives a longer quote by Crespi. (Crespi revised his notes, which may account for the two versions. Also it looks like this could have been written the next day.):
What provides the crowning excellence to this spot is that, at the opening in the above-mentioned range toward the south, out of a very large pool between some knolls there begins to rise a good-sized river . . . and it takes its course through the plain upon the south side, which is no telling how many leagues in width and very good grass-grown soil. On its bed the river bears a great deal of trees, cottonwoods, willows, and other sorts, and here and there on the plain there are sycamore trees. The San Miguel Bridge stream, which we set out from, empties into this river, and I saw the stream flowing close to the river, and it is a big one . . . So the place of San Miguel, along all the spots we have passed through, is the one with the most running water and the largest plains. I called this the River of the big San Miguel Plain. Thus there are two sites here for possible locating a mission; either here at the river, or at the Bridge, whence we set out; but the finer spot is the Bridge of the Stream, with its valley as described before.
Being a map freak, I was aware of a map, one of a series apparently included with Irrigation in California (Southern), an 1888 report by William Hammond Hall, State Engineer.

https://i.postimg.cc/sDsdn34h/Monrov...il_Hammond.png

https://i.postimg.cc/KYLRwcPn/spring_detail.png

David Rumsey Map Collection. Monrovia. Detail Irrigation Map.

Here we see a large spring about 1200 feet south of the spot where Valley Boulevard and the railroad tracks still cross the San Gabriel River bed. Leading south from the spring are two ditches to the pond above the Workman Mill (here called Puente Mill.)

I've looked at the historical satellite photos on Google Earth, and I see no evidence of a spring at this spot, which may be because modern ground water levels are reduced from pumping. Also, I can find no description of this spot in the William Hammond Hall book, though it does note that there are many springs bursting from the banks of the river in the Whittier Narrows.

Is this the same spring described by members of the Portola expedition?

ethereal_reality Jun 17, 2022 3:54 PM

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:previous: Excellent epic post Mackerm!.. It's going to take me awhile to delve into it . .but delve I will. :)



In the mean time, here's a slide from eBay that really captures a moment in time.

"Pershing Square - Los Angeles - Street Scene - 1950s 35mm Kodachrome Slide"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/8uNYpw.jpg
eBay


The slide is similar to one that I've posted in the past but it is, indeed, a different slide.


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Martin Pal Jun 18, 2022 1:59 AM

I'm not sure when we last posted about the Tail o' the Pup.



On my trip to the drugstore today I discovered where Tail o' the Pup is finally going to soon reappear: 8512 Santa Monica Blvd., West Hollywood.

Info below from several different articles/websites:

The historic hot dog-shaped restaurant Tail o’ the Pup is reopening in West Hollywood, located at 8512 Santa Monica Blvd. A beloved city icon, the dramatic 18-foot-wide by 9-foot-tall eatery was first established in 1946, and in 2005, the giant hot dog was moved into storage until a new caretaker was found. In 2018, Tail o’ the Pup was officially acquired by The 1933 Group, and owners Bobby Green, Dimitri Komarov, and Dmitry Liberman have spent the past three years searching for the perfect location. The trio has decided on a walkable corridor along Route 66 for its new 2,700 square-foot property, opening Summer, 2022.

The 1933 Group is also offering this limited edition mug, the sale of which will directly contribute to funding the finishing touches on Tail o' the Pup - opening this summer! Each one-of-a-kind mug arrives in a souvenir box and comes with an exclusive Adopt-A-Pup Club membership certificate.

https://media.nbclosangeles.com/2022...size=850%2C478

“We are reveling in the charm of nostalgia with the return of Tail o’ the Pup,” Green said in a press release. “I can’t think of a better way to put a smile on another’s face than to bring back the whimsical, giant hot dog stand that people would go out of their way to see as much as they would search for the Hollywood sign. We are honored to rescue one of America’s most iconic roadside attractions and hope that people see this comeback as another love letter we’ve written to Los Angeles.” The newly located Tail o’ the Pup will feature a new beer garden and al fresco dining areas.

This location has been the home of the previous restaurants, bars and clubs: The Forbidden Restaurant & Lounge, Cafe Benvenuto, Mexico Restaurant, Blackship (Japanese Restaurant), Bar Sopra LA (second floor), L'Scorpion nightclub...among others. Before that, the building housed the offices of "The Doors", featuring Jim Morrison, where manager Bill Siddons handled day-to-day-operations. The building also featured a sound studio where the band recorded three of its six albums. A 1968 publicity photo of the band shot on the outside stairway of the studios HERE.

While the new location won’t be familiar to its loyal customers of 75 years, the iconic hot dog will return for more photographs and hot dogs from both visitors and celebrities.
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I'm a huge fan of The 1933 Group!

https://www.1933group.com/tailothepup

BillinGlendaleCA Jun 18, 2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9651006)
Thanks. Didn't remember how fancy the Burbank "Sky Room" was! I was just a kid back in the late '50s/early '60s. I do remember watching the prop planes land and take off and that the food was good and the air cool in the summer heat of the Valley.

The planes landing and taking off on the N-S runway flew over the Valhalla Memorial Park cemetery just across the street from the airport. This is where comedian Oliver Hardy is buried, as well as the flamboyant wrestler "Gorgeous George" Wagner, 1920's star Mae Murray, the last stooge "Curly Joe" DeRita, and the psychic Criswell who was often on the Johnny Carson show. There are a greater number of more minor celebrities, like the actress Aneta Corsaut who played Miss Crump, Andy's school teacher lady friend and Opie's teacher on the Andy Griffith Show. This is not a Hollywood Forever Cemetery or Forest Lawn, with countless big stars, but Oliver Hardy, "Gorgeous George" Wagner, Mae Murray and maybe Ms. Crump and Criswell are worth a visit if in the area. If I left out any celebrities, please add them.

Wagner brought pizazz to the ring. Mohammad Ali said he learned a lot of his style and self promotion from Gorgeous George, like how he was the "greatest of all time" and "prettiest" fighter. Playing a foppish dandy, George would have a valet spray perfume as he entered the ring. At first the crowd couldn't figure him out, and booed. Later he became popular and his act made him rich long before the WWE came along.

I haven't been there in decades, and not sure if the grounds are still nicely maintained, but the cemetery used to be a nice place to take a walk. Very park-like with lots of monuments, including one to the pioneers of aviation. I would guess that many aviation pioneers are buried there.

As part of the monument to the pioneers of aviation, there's a memorial to the the Columbia and Challenger space shuttles.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...KwcHmKZ-XL.jpg

CaliNative Jun 18, 2022 7:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 9653381)
As part of the monument to the pioneers of aviation, there's a memorial to the the Columbia and Challenger space shuttles.

Thanks Bill. I haven't been there since I moved away from the Valley in 1988. Lived in the Valley most of my first 36 years. Don't miss the hot summers, but I do miss other things.

ethereal_reality Jun 19, 2022 9:26 PM

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Take a look at this little wooden dive bar down in Wilmington.

"La Casiga Bar, 1109 E. Anaheim Street, Wilmington, California - 1977"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/NxaUwk.jpg
eBay

hmm. . .shouldn't the sign say 'Casita' instead of 'Casiga'? ....What is a Casiga? :shrug:



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ethereal_reality Jun 19, 2022 9:40 PM

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I need a little help on this next slide. (also from Wilmington)


"Gilbert 5 10 25, 1st & Avalon Boulevard, Wilmington, California - 1977"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/ZUpI0j.jpg
eBay


I wanted to see if this building survived but I haven't found where 1st Street crosses Avalon Boulevard. ... All I see are letter streets. .like L St. . .M St. . .so on and so forth.




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HossC Jun 19, 2022 9:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9654225)

Take a look at this little wooden dive bar down in Wilmington.

"La Casiga Bar, 1109 E. Anaheim Street, Wilmington, California - 1977"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/NxaUwk.jpg
eBay

hmm. . .shouldn't the sign say 'Casita' (Little House/Cottage) instead of 'Casiga'? ....What is a Casiga? :shrug:

I'm pretty sure that the sign says "LA CASITA", but with a stylized "T". If you look at the white neon part, it's a bit clearer. Although I'm sure that La Casita closed many years ago, there are a few mentions on Google, such as www.yellowpages.com.

HossC Jun 19, 2022 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9654229)

I need a little help on this next slide. (also from Wilmington)

"Gilbert 5 10 25, 1st & Avalon Boulevard, Wilmington, California - 1977"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/ZUpI0j.jpg
eBay

I wanted to see if this building survived but I haven't found where 1st Street crosses Avalon Boulevard. ... All I see are letter streets. .like L St. . .M St. . .soon and so forth.

It's not E 1st Street, it's E I Street, and the building survives.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...AEIStreet1.jpg
GSV

ethereal_reality Jun 19, 2022 10:08 PM

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Thanks Hoss!


Now let's [time] travel farther into the past.


I think this is such a magnificent photograph.

"RARE RPPC JARRETT BLACKSMITH CARRIAGE PASADENA AVE & AVENUE 61 LOS ANGELES"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/7GWIlw.jpg
eBay





And here's a slightly closer (and clearer) look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/ZFAlx8.jpg
detail


What I thought was a decorated hobby horse is actually a small wooden table bench holding cogs and wheels.

note the fancy ladder on the right. (and the street sign, of course)


Oh! And what is that leaning on the fence between the two buildings. . .any ideas? :shrug:
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Mackerm Jun 20, 2022 8:44 AM

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FORGING AHEAD
Local Blacksmiths Keep an Old Art Form Alive

Blacksmithing is an art form with deep roots in Northeast Los Angeles. In the early 1900s, blacksmith shops dotted Pasadena Avenue (now North Figueroa Street). The Jarrett family were prominent members of the community, and the Jarrett Brothers established their blacksmith business at 6060 Pasadena Avenue, where a Taco Bell and and a Smart and Final now stand.

Granted, early Los Angeles blacksmithing may have had more to do with function than art.

"Some nail a horse shoe on their door
For better or for worse.
We take the shoe, we fit it well
And nail it to your horse."
Jarrett Bros.
Highland Park Herald
19 January 1907

LA Art News, February 2018, p3.


Not sure I agree exactly with LA Art News's placement. The 1927 Baist map shows Ave. 61 continuing south of Figueroa, offset to the east from the portion north of Figueroa. You can see the old pavement just east of the Smart & Final parking lot, partly obliterated by the Gold line tracks. Then again, it makes sense that Ave. 61 could have continued in line with the portion North of Figueroa in the distant past. But this taught dopey me that Pasadena Avenue was renamed.

Engineeral Jun 20, 2022 5:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9654242)
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What I thought was a decorated hobby horse is actually a small wooden table bench holding cogs and wheels.
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The tool with the cogs and wheels is a "rolling mill" used to turn metal strips to the diameter of carriage wheel tires and hub bands before welding and shrinking on to the wheels or hubs,

Handsome Stranger Jun 20, 2022 9:46 PM

I happened to see a 1940 Looney Tunes short on TV recently, "You Ought to Be in Pictures." Very inventive mix of live action and animation. There's a fascinating shot of Porky Pig careening down a street in what I assume is Hollywood. Several business signs on the right are legible.

https://i.postimg.cc/rFNXXR6H/PPIG-055.jpg
source: MeTV broadcast

https://i.postimg.cc/hv9FGfXf/PPIG-077.jpg
source: MeTV broadcast

https://i.postimg.cc/mZMWj6mB/PPIG-204.jpg
source: MeTV broadcast

So, gang, what street is Porky driving on?

This view right outside Leon Schlesinger Productions was easy to identify. Looking southwest along Van Ness Avenue at Fernwood Avenue.

https://i.postimg.cc/tJ0QyhCK/PPIG-000.jpg
source: MeTV broadcast

HossC Jun 20, 2022 10:23 PM

:previous:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 9654924)

So, gang, what street is Porky driving on?

While searching out the businesses, I came upon an article documenting this very scene. You can see the ones above and several more in Porky Pig on Sunset Boulevard.

Handsome Stranger Jun 21, 2022 3:37 AM

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Thanks, HossC! That blog entry is a nice find!

One more frame grab to share now. I recently purchased a couple of new ClassicFlix Blu-rays featuring restored Our Gang shorts from the Hal Roach era. The restoration work on the discs is superb. Here's a frame from a 1933 short called "The Kid from Borneo."

https://i.postimg.cc/W1NRfzxX/611.jpg
source: The Little Rascals, The ClassicFlix Restorations Vol. 4

That's young George "Spanky" McFarland running across a vacant lot with a familiar landmark visible in the hills.

unihikid Jun 21, 2022 4:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 9655105)
:previous:

Thanks, HossC! That blog entry is a nice find!

One more frame grab to share now. I recently purchased a couple of new ClassicFlix Blu-rays featuring restored Our Gang shorts from the Hal Roach era. The restoration work on the discs is superb. Here's a frame from a 1933 short called "The Kid from Borneo."



That's young George "Spanky" McFarland running across a vacant lot with a familiar landmark visible in the hills.

I'm pretty sure that's Baldwin Hills and the Heinz 57 logo helps. There's a guy on YouTube who i subscribe to that does then and now shots of "Our Gang". Most of the filming was done in Culver City (home of Hal Roach Studios) , and you can tell HR loved filming on certain streets (Woodbine, Motor and Mentone) for all of his films. It's great to see the area before the freeway and development.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYjdz6CUnoA
Chris Bungo Studios

ethereal_reality Jun 21, 2022 6:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mackerm (Post 9654471)
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LA Art News, February 2018, p3.


Not sure I agree exactly with LA Art News's placement. The 1927 Baist map shows Ave. 61 continuing south of Figueroa, offset to the east from the portion north of Figueroa. You can see the old pavement just east of the Smart & Final parking lot, partly obliterated by the Gold line tracks. Then again, it makes sense that Ave. 61 could have continued in line with the portion North of Figueroa in the distant past. But this taught dopey me that Pasadena Avenue was renamed.

I've tried to find the area on the Sanborn map but the way the pages of the map are listed numerically makes it's nearly impossible to find a specific area. Is there a way to 'search' within the Sanborn map? I've always been frustrated by this.

Library of Congress


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Originally Posted by Engineeral (Post 9654695)
The tool with the cogs and wheels is a "rolling mill" used to turn metal strips to the diameter of carriage wheel tires and hub bands before welding and shrinking on to the wheels or hubs.

Thanks, Engineeral. :) I appreciate the information.



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Mackerm Jun 21, 2022 7:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9655591)
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I've tried to find the area on the Sanborn map but the way the pages of the map are listed numerically makes it's nearly impossible to find a specific area. Is there a way to 'search' within the Sanborn map? I've always been frustrated by this.

Here's the index page for the Baist real estate atlas. Better: go to DavidRumsey.com and search for Baist. On my last one, I went to HistoricAerials, and noticed that the Baist maps are now shown there.

Martin Pal Jun 21, 2022 8:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 9654924)
I happened to see a 1940 Looney Tunes short on TV recently, "You Ought to Be in Pictures." Very inventive mix of live action and animation. There's a fascinating shot of Porky Pig careening down a street in what I assume is Hollywood. Several business signs on the right are legible.

https://i.postimg.cc/hv9FGfXf/PPIG-077.jpg
source: MeTV broadcast
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On the blog post link that HossC found, the person attributes this location as: "Mark C. Bloome was near Sunset and Wilcox."

https://64.media.tumblr.com/fbba9836...natdo1_500.jpg

I wasn't sure that was correct. The photo above of Mark C. Bloome on Sunset seen a few times here and there on NLA is at 6210 Sunset Blvd. which is at Sunset and El Centro, directly east of Earl Carroll's nightclub and across the street from the Palladium. Various places online have this photo dated at either 1942 or 1943.

Sunset Blvd. and Wilcox Avenue would have an address around 6500. So far I can't find any sources of info or photos with a Mark C. Bloome located there myself. The Mark C. Bloome lettering in both the photos is different, however. According to the Water & Power photo site, Marck C. Bloome had "twelve locations by the 1950s." Unlikely there would have been two on Sunset within a couple blocks of each other, especially with Mueller's in between them both. The short was released in May, 1940. I'm guessing the information is incorrect, or Bloome moved the location from Wilcox to El Centro, mostly because Porky Passes Fiedler Field afterwards which was on the other side of El Centro addressed as 6134 Sunset Blvd. (The Tralfaz blog also has this location incorrect as at Sunset & Ivar, which is before Vine St. if you're traveling east.)
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The photo below from Calisphere, shows the 6210 location of Mark C. Bloome with the same lettering. (Calisphere does not have a date for it, listing it from 1933-1943, however it would have to be at least 1938 as both NBC and Earl Carroll's opened that year. (Carroll's Dec. 26, 1938.)

https://calisphere.org/crop/999x999/...1aaadcaaed2e2d

On NoirCityDame's J.H. Graham site, she has a whole article about the Fiedler Fields and Fiedler himself, from about 18 months ago. Quite interesting.
Lots of info and photos.

6134 Sunset: Fiedler’s Field
https://jhgraham.com/2020/11/20/6134...iedlers-field/

And, speaking of, look who was playing opening night at Fiedler's Field: Dave's Delicatessan vs. Looney Tunes!

https://jhgrahambooks.files.wordpres...pg?w=615&h=343

Also of interest: Porky Pig in "You Ought to Be in Pictures" was colorized in 1995, with a computer adding color to a new print of the original black and white cartoon.
This preserved the quality of the original animation.

The whole colorized short is not online, but around 2 1/2 minutes are, including this street scene in question. (Starting around 1:00.)

Video Link

HossC Jun 21, 2022 9:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9655747)

On the blog post link that HossC found, the person attributes this location as: "Mark C. Bloome was near Sunset and Wilcox."

https://64.media.tumblr.com/fbba9836...natdo1_500.jpg

I wasn't sure that was correct. The photo above of Mark C. Bloome on Sunset seen a few times here and there on NLA is at 6210 Sunset Blvd. which is at Sunset and El Centro, directly east of Earl Carroll's nightclub and across the street from the Palladium. Various places online have this photo dated at either 1942 or 1943.

Sunset Blvd. and Wilcox Avenue would have an address around 6500. So far I can't find any sources of info or photos with a Mark C. Bloome located there myself. The Mark C. Bloome lettering in both the photos is different, however. According to the Water & Power photo site, Marck C. Bloome had "twelve locations by the 1950s." Unlikely there would have been two on Sunset within a couple blocks of each other, especially with Mueller's in between them both. The short was released in May, 1940. I'm guessing the information is incorrect, or Bloome moved the location from Wilcox to El Centro, mostly because Porky Passes Fiedler Field afterwards which was on the other side of El Centro addressed as 6134 Sunset Blvd. (The Tralfaz blog also has this location incorrect as at Sunset & Ivar, which is before Vine St. if you're traveling east.)

Here's the listing for Mark C Bloome from the 1941 CD:

BLOOME MARK C CO (Mark C Bloome) Gasoline, Tires, Radios, Batteries, Auto Repairing,
6210 Sunset Blvd, 2850 Crenshaw Blvd, 8425 Beverly Blvd. 201 S La Brea Av, 5801 W Pico Blvd.

Flyingwedge Jun 22, 2022 5:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9654242)
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"RARE RPPC JARRETT BLACKSMITH CARRIAGE PASADENA AVE & AVENUE 61 LOS ANGELES"


And here's a slightly closer (and clearer) look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/ZFAlx8.jpg
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The Jarrett Brothers were at 6060 Pasadena Avenue in 1907, then apparently moved to 6100 Pasadena Avenue.
I think this photo shows 6100, not 6060.


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag..._Avenue(1).jpg

March 24, 1907, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LA Public Library


The 1908 LACD is the only one to show Jarrett Bros. at 6100 Pasadena Ave. In 1909 it's Jarrett and Crocker at 6100.

This area does not appear on a Sanborn Map until 1920, by which time 6100 Pasadena Avenue was a vacant lot:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...e_-_marked.jpg

1920 Sanborn Map 1273, Volume 12 @ ProQuest via LA Public Library


Here's a wider view of the Pasadena Avenue/Avenue 61 intersection in 1920, with 6060 Pasadena Ave. marked (6100 was
just across E. Avenue 61, as shown on the first map):

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...w_-_marked.jpg

1920 Sanborn Map 1265, Volume 12 @ ProQuest via LA Public Library


With the Sanborn Maps, it's a huge help if you can find the index map (similar to the Baist Index page), which shows the
areas covered in each volume. It can be hard to find the right map; not all Sanborns available online include that index map.

odinthor Jun 22, 2022 1:03 PM

In re: Jarrett...

https://i.postimg.cc/pXnX4SV8/Jarrett-Her-1912-5-23.jpg
LA Herald, 5/23/1912

And here's 6109 Piedmont:

https://i.postimg.cc/1zymg5Gc/Jarrett-6109-Piedmont.jpg
gsv (2007 view; in later views, the house is obscured by plants and/or vehicles)

Noir_Noir Jun 22, 2022 2:59 PM

:previous:


Partly seen to the left in the Jarrett's ebay picture, this was Albert Nies' blacksmithing shop.

It was at 6108 Pasadena Avenue, not 6100 as the caption says.


https://i.imgur.com/hZE0Mzn.jpg
Google Books - Highland Park By Charles J. Fisher




He also resided on Piedmont Ave - at 6137.


https://i.imgur.com/kLikhQz.jpg
cdnc.ucr.edu - Highland Park News-Herald & Journal, 25 January 1913


https://i.imgur.com/FvDA5u5.jpg
redfin.com

https://i.imgur.com/DyXYxPM.jpg
redfin.com

https://i.imgur.com/2txXsnD.jpg
redfin.com

odinthor Jun 22, 2022 4:03 PM

It appears that in 1911 blacksmith Jarrett was planning to go east:

https://i.postimg.cc/2yJZ7BkZ/Jarret...-1911-4-30.jpg
LA Herald, 4/30/1911

Here's a 1911 Stevens-Duryea Model AA (though probably Jarrett had an older model):

https://i.postimg.cc/pdYKMTZw/Jarret...ens-duryea.jpg
Classic Driver

I wouldn't mind driving around town in that.

Bristolian Jun 22, 2022 11:46 PM

:previous:

So does 6109 Piedmont still have a garage, err, carriage house? That Stevens would have been way too nice to park on the street.

Flyingwedge Jun 23, 2022 4:48 AM

More Jarrett Bros.
 
There is a December 31, 1907, building permit from the Jarrett Brothers, part of which is shown below, to move a
blacksmith shop from 6060 Pasadena Avenue to 6100 Pasadena Avenue.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...00_Pas_Ave.jpg

LADBS

tovangar2 Jun 23, 2022 9:55 AM

Craftsman apartment buildings
 
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9637073)
I would guess that an Arts & Craft apartment building is relatively rare.

I believe there is at least another one near the Wilshire District but I don't remember the exact address.

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Do you mean the fine pair facing each other on S Park View at W 10th?:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...ostcount=41276

ethereal_reality Jun 23, 2022 5:34 PM

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Yes, T2, those are the two apartments I was thinking of. Thanks for the reminder. :)

Your pics. are missing so I'll put up a few of my own.

I'll start with the Baist map from 1910. (I outlined the two apartments)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Dkb2Ma.jpg
baist 1910 via tovanger2


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/KJCYre.jpg


Looking north on Park View from just below 10th.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/TKJxKr.jpg

No. #945 is on the left and was built in 1903. ...No. #958 is on the right and was built in 1909.


They're definitely worth checking out for yourself. .. Go Here


Thanks again T2.
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ethereal_reality Jun 23, 2022 5:52 PM

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This intriguing photograph was recently listed on eBay

As you can see, it's mounted.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/t4O74j.jpg




A closer look so you can read the sign.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Q6xKcI.jpg
eBay

What in the Sam hell is a "Spizzerinkum"? :shrug:


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ethereal_reality Jun 23, 2022 6:18 PM

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Here's another photograph recently listed on eBay

It's a mystery location.

"Vintage Old 1930's Photo of Cars in Front of Los Angeles Apartment Clock Tower"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/DRYjf7.jpg
eBay





As usual here's my closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/8ZYU35.jpg
eBay



I don't quite understand what's going on here.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/WkpcjD.jpg
detail

An overly starched flag?


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ethereal_reality Jun 23, 2022 6:47 PM

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I'm on a roll folks! :eeekk:

I'm going for broke and post one more photograph for today. (June 22, 2022)

I don't believe we have seen this amazing photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/PNw8kG.jpg

It's astonishing to see this colossal building standing in a nearly empty Burbank.

"Burbank Furniture Manufacturing Company, with about 25 men posing in front of building and railroad tracks in foreground. It was the town's first factory.
After the land boom recession in 1888, the building was abandoned and transients slept in the empty factory. Later the building burned down. The building was located at the Verdugo railroad crossing."

California State University, Northridge


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Mackerm Jun 24, 2022 3:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9657697)
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Here's another photograph recently listed on eBay

It's a mystery location.

"Vintage Old 1930's Photo of Cars in Front of Los Angeles Apartment Clock Tower"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/DRYjf7.jpg
eBay

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It's the Santa Barbara county courthouse. :bash:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9657697)
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I don't quite understand what's going on here.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/WkpcjD.jpg
detail

An overly starched flag?


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Perhaps a checkered tablecloth folded and draped over the railing, opened by a breeze.

Beaudry Jun 24, 2022 6:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9657697)
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Here's another photograph recently listed on eBay

It's a mystery location.

"Vintage Old 1930's Photo of Cars in Front of Los Angeles Apartment Clock Tower"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/DRYjf7.jpg
eBay


Mackerm beat me to it! That's what it is alright—

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/53/d6...9a7a89292d.jpg

Lwize Jun 25, 2022 2:00 AM

Where have all the blacksmiths gone?

HossC Jun 25, 2022 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 9659479)

Where have all the blacksmiths gone?

Long time passing...


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