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Suppose Bombardier tests the very same railcar in Philadelphia's Broad Street Subway and on the Sixth Avenue IND in Manhattan. Because the ridership denominator in the New York statistics is much larger, the cost per passenger mile will be half or even less in New York than in Philadelphia. The cost per operating hour or per place mile would be roughly the same. The NTDB doesn't give us place-mile figures, but we can make a good guess by looking at the hourly figures and estimating the number of passengers that can be carried on different vehicles. As I've twice pointed out, light-rail vehicles carry only about 50% more than standard buses, but the hourly operating costs average 220% of bus costs. Remember that the labor costs for the light-rail vehicle aren't just the operator you see on board. They have to include the people who stock the ticket machines, sweep the platforms, audit and enforce the fares, repair the catenary, and the ones back at the shop who vacuum out the trash, true the wheels, and rewind the motors. |
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We're not comparing a heavy rail line to a local bus service. We're talking about the cost-effectiveness of LRT vs. BRT on a specific corridor in Chicago. Do Pittsburgh's light rail lines "attract more ridership" than their busways do? Are Edmonton's light rail lines better patronized per mile than Ottawa's busway? Looking at mode by entire systems using the NTDB is a bit like comparing cost per passenger-mile between the Green Line and the Red Line. You'd conclude that lines named for warm colors are vastly more efficient. |
Would BRT here be using new, as-yet-unproposed bus models, or something retrofitted from the current (or already pipelined) fleet? One thing the L trains have going for them is zero emissions. That said, I know nothing about the current buses' emissions but I assume they're greater than zero.
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Not electric, but Van Hool just released a new BRT bus made to look as much like an LRV as possible: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-H2C3URqgrZ...lding_1170.jpg ><>< https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3813/...9209204f08.jpg ><>< Trolleybus version: http://oi59.tinypic.com/4j70wk.jpg ><>< http://www.tbus.org.uk/obusvanhool.jpg ><>< |
^ Those are bad-ass. ABC Companies (Van Hool's USA affiliate) features the ExquiCity on their website, so it seems like they are looking for American customers. Of course, I don't know if they meet Buy America requirements which could be a sticking point.
http://www.abc-companies.com/ The buses for Ashland will need doors on the left, though, so they can't just use traditional buses with cosmetic upgrades. Ideally you would flip the entire bus design and put the driver on the right (like a postal truck) so he can monitor the entrances. Depends on whether CTA will do an honor system with proof-of-payment, though. |
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Plus renewables like wind and solar. Environmentalists don't like to include nuclear or hydro power as "clean" or "renewable" but Illinois has an especially low reliance on fossil fuels for power generation, at least by American standards. Our carbon emissions are still around the average for America, though.
Using electric traction for transit decouples the consumption from the generation of energy, and that alone has huge benefits. Nobody would seriously propose a nuclear or wind-powered bus, but that can actually happen through electrification. |
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Except that the Ashland proposal is a whole other kettle of fish. Center dedicated lanes, actual stations, left boarding, prepaid fares, etc.
Jeffrey Jump isn't BRT and calling it such just waters down the term. It's an upgraded bus, that's it. Even on CTA's webpage, they are careful to avoid using the term BRT for the Jump. |
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sorry, just frustrated about this city's approach! to just about everything! alright i should just move. . . |
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While those buses are certainly eye candy, I don't really give a shit what they look like, I just want the Ashland BRT to get built NOW. They can use school buses for all I care, just build the damn BRT line.
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Transit shake-up not on fast track, key lawmaker says
http://politics.suntimes.com/article...04212014-305pm
MON, 04/21/2014 - 3:05PM ROSALIND ROSSI @ROSALINDROSSI | EMAIL Legislative efforts to dramatically shake up how the Chicago area’s transit agencies are organized probably won’t become a reality until next year, the chairman of the House Mass Transit Committee said Monday....... |
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