Is NYC the most geopolitically diverse city in the US?
Some very abrupt shifts in political geography in NYC that you don't really see in other cities. Best example may be in Brooklyn where you go from 95% D Black neighborhoods to Ultra-Orthodox and Russian Jewish neighborhoods that are nearly as R.
Heavily Italian American Staten Island is around 75% R, remarkable for a metropolitan area. Some Italian enclaves like Dyker Heights, Howard Beach and Whitestone are quite conservative too. Perhaps the large amount descended from post-war Italian immigration (as opposed to Ellis Island-descended)neighborhoods has led to a strong sense of Italian identity and social conservatism. White ethnic neighorhoods in other NE and Midwestern cities don't seem as Republican. Few major cities have areas of Republican strength that NYC does. In the suburbs, you have some insular "New Yawkish" enclaves in Long Island. Nassau and Suffolk are quite Republican for major NE suburban counties. |
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I've wondered this myself, but more along the lines of "What is the most ideologically diverse city in the US?"
Every time I try to look up statistics, it's always framed under the 2 status-quo parties, namely Republicans and Democrats. NYC being the center of capitalism in the US, I would imagine it would be dominated by those two parties. I've never been a Republican or Democrat, I've only ever been registered in the Peace and Freedom Party and the Green Party. I'd like to know what cities in the US are full of Communists, Socialists, Fascists, far right-wingers, far left-wingers, etc. I can't even find percentages for Green Party members in cities. |
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There's a few different dynamics that I think play a role here in why NYC has a uniquely high number of conservative neighborhoods within city limits.
The strongest by far is just the Hasidim and the other ultra-orthodox. Every single 80%+ Trump precinct in NYC is a Hasid or ultra-Orthodox area, as are most of the 70%-79% Trump areas. Discounting those areas, there are mostly just "normal conservative" zones - areas where over half to two-thirds of people vote Republican. NYC has more of these than anywhere else, but they aren't unknown in other old urban areas. Philly has more than a few, Chicago has a couple, etc. But NYC does stand out here, even considering its greater size. I think a few aspects play a role. 1. The sheer scale of the city mean that neighborhoods can develop with a critical mass of GOP-leaning occupations (like cops and firemen). 2. New York state had unique political dynamics which made the state Republican Party more competitive than it "should" have been for generations, which meant that the attachment of working-class white city dwellers to the Democrats was never as strong as somewhere like Boston or Chicago. 3. A lot of the zones which are pretty conservative are suburbs for all intents and purposes. Looking at most of Staten Island here for example. There's limited attractiveness for professional-class whites to gentrify these areas, which means as long as they don't shift to nonwhite neighborhoods they're going to lean GOP. It is striking that if you compare southern Staten island to nearby parts of New Jersey it's way more GOP (some areas of Staten island were 75% Trump, while Middlesex County suburbs right across the Arthur Kill are generally at least narrowly Dem. However, this mostly seems to be because the NJ suburbs are way, way more diverse than southern Staten Island. |
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if so, are there de facto "cops & firemen" neighborhoods on the city fringes like chicago? https://i.postimg.cc/8cG6T24n/cook-county-notes.png |
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Edit: Fact checked the counties where NYPD officers are allowed to live. |
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The cop/firefighter neighborhoods are mostly in suburban sprawl. |
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The adjacent areas of NJ are heavily nonwhite and working class, and much older and more urban. Places like Perth Amboy are much more citylike than South Shore SI. |
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The very "European ethnic" village of Norridge - completely surrounded by Chicago - voted 60% Trump.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/subur...5eq-story.html 27% of the population is European-born, 14% in Poland, 5% in Italy. |
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Pretty sure the rules are highly dependent on role, but there isn't any sort of residency requirement analogous to, say, Chicago. There is a 1980's-era ordinace that requires city residency for some classifications, but also the following: "Section 12-120(b) provides that employees who have completed two continuous years of City service while maintaining residency in the City will remain in compliance with the residency law if they establish and maintain residency in Nassau, Westchester, Suffolk, Orange, Rockland or Putnam counties." So if I'm reading this correctly, there are some jobs where you have to be a city resident for 21 months (90 days following hire date up to 2 years following hire date) but then you can live in the burbs, but only in NY State. |
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they both have a lot of ethnic whites who didn't "flight" out of the city because they aren't part of the city. |
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