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westcork Dec 9, 2011 4:44 AM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2535/...2358c67ccd.jpg
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/chr...gs/restaurant/

http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1009/4...5b55ace77b.jpg
The Captain's Table, La Cienega at Third, Los Angeles, Calif. by zilf, on Flickr

FredH Dec 9, 2011 6:30 AM

The 1962 Restaurant and Entertainment Guide
 
Since we are on restaurants:

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/8310/11070886.jpg
Lileks.com

The guide is here:

http://lileks.com/misc/key62/index.html

(scroll to the bottom of each page and click next)

3940dxer Dec 9, 2011 4:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5509979)
...back to Restaurant Row for a bit.

Does anyone remember this mid-century building on La Cienega just south of 3rd Street.

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/8...b1963wmark.jpg
unknown

Yes! In the 70's and 80's it was a big, popular multi-room disco called Osko's. 333 South La Cienega.

SHERIFFPAUL Dec 9, 2011 5:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5509959)
Many people are unaware that Sid Grauman built this bungalow court in 1922.

Here is another photograph.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/416...owcourtoff.jpg
LAPL


Further information from LAPL

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1...owcourt1de.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=73941

I need to research those 7 shops at the corner of Melrose and Kenmore. I had no idea they even existed.

_____

Very Cool :tup:

3940dxer Dec 9, 2011 7:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5508696)
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-v...rosslyn130.jpgEbay

Vintage postcard drawings often exaggerate, and these of the Rosslyn are no exception. Usually I shy away from postcards here; I posted these because I think the colors are great. But my real quarry for this post was a pic of the connecting marble subway--no luck. Dinner on me at any of the Restaurant Row joints we've seen to first person who can produce a shot--3940? You seem brave, having visited the Castle of Enchantment--perhaps you can find your way into the subway. Is the passage even still open? The "Auto Drive-In Lobby" is also intriguing....

That's a dicey neighborhood at times. I can imagine the headline...

http://dkse.net/david/headline2.jpg

Actually, I happened to walk past the Rosslyn just last night when I was at Art Walk L.A. with some friends. I hadn't seen your post and wasn't snooping around for hidden tunnels, but it sounds like a worthwhile mission and I'll give it a shot.

Dinner on restaurant row? Hmm, give me a week or two, and I'll let you know what I find!

nostalgie Dec 9, 2011 7:39 PM

Restaurant Row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5510527)
Yes! In the 70's and 80's it was a big, popular multi-room disco called Osko's. 333 South La Cienega.

Ah, but BEFORE that...the building was known as the Millionaire's Club in the mid-to-late '60s, one of those butter-and-egg man on an expense account joints. As far as I can remember, no local would be caught dead in the place.

ethereal_reality Dec 9, 2011 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5510779)

:previous: That is so great. For a half second I believed it....I even gasped.

GaylordWilshire Dec 9, 2011 11:34 PM

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-B...2520AM.bmp.jpgIMDB

Here is 333 S La Cienega as "Zoo" in Thank God It's Friday. I thought its incarnation as the "Millionaire's Club" might explain what I saw as "Board Room" to the left of the spider, but on closer inspection it appears to be "Scand Room".... Is this a hint of its original incarnation?

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-L...309/scans2.jpg
unknown

ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2011 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5398284)
An astonishing photo of the Los Altos Apartment garage located at 626 S. Bronson Avenue, circa 1978.


http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/2...ein1978loc.jpg
marlene laskey collection

A treasure trove of abandoned automobiles. Are these remnants of long dead residents?



below: The garage is still there.

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/6...aragetoday.jpg
google street views




:previous: Earlier in the thread I posted the above photos of the garage for the Los Altos Apartments.

______

I recently came across photographs of the Bryson Apartments garage. I don't know if they're new to the LAPL archive or if I simply missed them the first time around.

below: In this aerial you can see the Bryson garage directly to to the right (north) of its namesake apartment building.
The park you see is Lafayette Park.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5...nerwilshir.jpg
LAPL


The following three color photographs were taken in 1978 by Marlene Laskey and her daughter Anne.


http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/3...978annelas.jpg
LAPL





They even had their own gas pumps.

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/2...ngarage623.jpg
LAPL









http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/9...23rampartb.jpg
LAPL







below: The garage site is now The Tides Apartments (on the right).


http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4...esitetoday.jpg
google street view

That rather beautiful entrance is a side entrance to The Bryson Apartment Bldg.



below: Just to refresh memories...I'll repost this vintage photo of the 'The Bryson'.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/960...ntbuilding.jpg
LAPL




below: The Bryson still stands in all its glory.

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8...ntoday2011.jpg
google street view

ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2011 12:35 AM

The large apartment building on the right has survived as well.

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/5...nerwilshir.jpg
LAPL detail



The Rampart Arms at 603 Rampart & 6th Street.

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1...ronrampart.jpg
google street view



below: Sadly, there is some cheesiness going on along 6th Street....

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/1...rton6thsho.jpg
google street view



.....and on Rampart as well. The main entrance is on the left.

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/2...parto1shop.jpg
google street view

rick m Dec 10, 2011 5:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5510527)
Yes! In the 70's and 80's it was a big, popular multi-room disco called Osko's. 333 South La Cienega.

I remember one evening trying this club with a luuded up pal - were accosted in parking lot by author Paul Monette who attempted to give us a spaced-out lecture about wasting our little lives ---

rick m Dec 10, 2011 5:43 AM

Artist Gronk has converted most of the 3rd floor into a mindblowing art studio-- Quite a scene---

3940dxer Dec 10, 2011 6:46 AM

Magnolia Park (Burbank) 1925
 
I first saw this image a few weeks ago in the window of a dry cleaners in the Magnolia Park section of Burbank, then found it on the web.

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Burbank/magnoliapark.jpg
Mike Laroque
http://la.curbed.com/uploads/2007-02-magnoliapark.gif

It's interesting to me for a number of reasons...

Most starling are the "proposed tunnels" to Hollywood. Not only could you duck under the Hills as a handy short cut to Hollywood, but you could come into town on Bronson, Western, or Vermont. (There are a number of fire and access roads on the Hollywood side, but only one on the Burbank side. it starts near Travel Town in Griffith Park and is closed to motor vehicles about a mile up.)

Having hiked the "straight over the hill" route, I can tell you that it's very steep and would would be a difficult route to Hollywood, with or without the mega-tunnels!

It's notable is that the tunnel route is an extension of Whitnall "Super" Highway. I had always wondered about this odd diaginal street, which is very broad, little used, and is basically a route for high voltage electric towers, with some park space below. (I had never seen the term "Super" used with it before.)

The western section of Hollywood way that intersects with Cahuenga is now called Barham of course, not Hollywood Way. I'd always wondered How Hollywood Way got it's name, since it dead ends at Olive, and does not go to Hollywood. I guess it did, before the Western section was named Barham.

Barham crosses the L.A. River (barely visible in the image) and then veers to the right at what is now Warner Brothers. However, Olive does not turn north, near Riverside, the alignment is much different.

I didn't know that Mack Sennett studio was off Magnolia, and not sure what "propsed Sterling Studios" was. Maybe this is what's now The Warner Brothers "Ranch" lot west of Hollywood Way?

The Burbank airport is about where "Proposed Victory Studios" is shown. But Hollywood Way actually bends northwest, about 2 blocks past Magnolia.

By the way, my little house in Burbank, built in the late 20's, is almost at the exact center of this map -- it's in the middle of the little triangular section, to the right of the word "Super".

I have no idea why it was called the "white spot".

GaylordWilshire Dec 10, 2011 1:57 PM

333 S La Cienega, cont'd
 
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-t...Y/s564/333.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P..._3852483_n.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7..._2165139_n.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r.../s595/333x.jpg


Apparently 333 had many, many incarnations--there was 1520 A.D., Cabaret, Climax II, Gaslight... commenters on various sites attribute all sorts of names to it. I'm still determined to find pics of its original state. Pics above from: La Cienega

GaylordWilshire Dec 10, 2011 2:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5511477)
I have no idea why it was called the "white spot".

I'm afraid "White Spot" refers to exactly what many hoped Los Angeles would not become... ie., multiracial. Among the books about this is Popular Culture in the Age of White Flight by Eric Avila, and I think it's referred to in John Buntin's L.A. Noir.

sopas ej Dec 10, 2011 4:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5511571)
I'm afraid "White Spot" refers to exactly what many hoped Los Angeles would not become... ie., multiracial. Among the books about this is Popular Culture in the Age of White Flight by Eric Avila, and I think it's referred to in John Buntin's L.A. Noir.

The ironic thing is that basically when Los Angeles was founded, it has always been multiracial. It wasn't until more white Protestant midwesterners and east coast folk started moving to LA that it started really becoming a segregated city. And if any Bay Area snobs (I say that cheekily, being that I love the Bay Area) are thinking that LA had a long "backward" period, San Francisco wasn't always a liberal metropolis; I've read accounts of SF's Chinatown residents who as children growing up in the 1930s and 1940s, knew not to wander into neighboring North Beach or they'd get beaten up. Even Chinese-American San Franciscans as recently as the 1950s and 1960s had trouble buying homes in other neighborhoods because of either deed restrictions, or homeowners just wouldn't want to sell to them.

Which brings me to your post from last month, Gaylord:

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5488716)

I remember wanting to comment on this but it got pushed back and it skipped my mind, but I found the ad for the Bel Air development "funny" for its blatant openness of being a "restricted" community. As a teen, I remember reading how Beverly Hills early on allowed movie people to move in, being that early Hollywood and later on, Bel-Air, didn't allow movie people to move in--- possibly because of the "wild lifestyle" they led, but also more likely because many movie moguls and people in the movie industry were Jews.

安二郎andini Dec 10, 2011 6:45 PM

Hello to all and thank you!
 
Hi everyone,

I stumbled upon this forum a few months back. I've never seen anything like it. I'm a recently displaced 5 year downtown industrial/Little Tokyo resident but still feel like this is my home. Thanks to all who have so graciously contributed their time and stories.

Some screenshots of Little Tokyo from last nights viewing of director Samuel Fuller's, "The Crimson Kimono", 1959, Columbia Pictures.

http://www.echosmusic.com/crimson1.bmp


http://www.echosmusic.com/crimson2.bmp


http://www.echosmusic.com/crimson3.bmp


http://www.echosmusic.com/crimson4.bmp

Bun-kado is still there, with the same great sign (unfortunately minus the records part).

http://www.echosmusic.com/crimson5.bmp


http://www.echosmusic.com/crimson6.bmp

Wish I was there to do before and afters shots; I've got them all in my head.:cool:

JeffDiego Dec 11, 2011 1:35 AM

"White Spot"
 
Regarding the comment about San Francisco and multi-racialism: When I was in High School in Fresno in the late 60's, someone brought to a history class several 1943 San Francisco newspapers they had found somewhere. A surprising and interesting feature was that in the "Apartments for Rent" section of the classifieds, there were racial categories for certain apt. buildings - "Filipino," "Negro" and "Mexican." Obviously if there wasn't a category, that meant that only Whites need apply.
If someone has similar Los Angeles papers, wonder if there were restrictive racial categories for apartment houses here? Wouldn't be surprised.

3940dxer Dec 11, 2011 7:06 AM

SilentLocations (or anyone), do you know where the "shack" scenes in Chaplin's Modern Times were filmed? That part the movie is so poignant to me. And Paulette Goddard must be the most stunningly radiant street urchin ever seen through a camera lens.

Maybe San Pedro or possibly around the Ballona Creek wetlands? Thanks in advance.

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/modern.times.jpg
http://maxseesmovies.blogspot.com/20...ern-times.html

GaylordWilshire Dec 11, 2011 12:26 PM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-i...2520AM.bmp.jpgLAPL

Ninja55 Dec 11, 2011 8:59 PM

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5189/5...36fa2ebc_z.jpg"Detective" Joe Musso! Thanks 3940dxer.

ethereal_reality Dec 11, 2011 11:02 PM

Welcome to the thread andini in St. Louis. Your screenshots from The Crimson Kimono were great !

ethereal_reality Dec 12, 2011 3:58 AM

An accident at Central Avenue and 49th Street in 1952.


http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/6...49thst1952.jpg
LAPL




below: I am pretty sure these are the same buildings at Central Ave. & 49th St.


http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/282...lave49thst.jpg
goggle street view




http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/1...ralave49th.jpg
google street view


I love it when old wooden buildings survive against all odds.

haiku99 Dec 12, 2011 5:24 AM

[QUOTE=sopas ej;5511637]The ironic thing is that basically when Los Angeles was founded, it has always been multiracial. It wasn't until more white Protestant midwesterners and east coast folk started moving to LA that it started really becoming a segregated city. And if any Bay Area snobs (I say that cheekily, being that I love the Bay Area) are thinking that LA had a long "backward" period, San Francisco wasn't always a liberal metropolis; I've read accounts of SF's Chinatown residents who as children growing up in the 1930s and 1940s, knew not to wander into neighboring North Beach or they'd get beaten up. Even Chinese-American San Franciscans as recently as the 1950s and 1960s had trouble buying homes in other neighborhoods because of either deed restrictions, or homeowners just wouldn't want to sell to them.

snip


very true, grew up in S.F. in the '60's and that was the case, very difficult for non-whites to buy in some neighborhoods regardless of who they might be....was a block away from Willie Mays at the time and as a kid did not know that he had to buy a lot and build a house in order to to live in the neighborhood
http://www.outsidelands.org/sw5.php
and BTW thanks very much for your many posts and to all for the thread in general, worked my way through the entire thing awhile back and enjoyed it greatly...FWIW my employer put me up in the Biltmore for a week last year for training, spent a lot of time walking nearby while I was there and that made me appreciate the thread even more

FredH Dec 12, 2011 5:53 AM

Hi Andini
 
I enjoyed your screen shots of Little Tokyo. I spent almost 20 years working in the area, so I am pretty familiar with it.
Here is a "before and after" of one of your screen shots, using Google Street View:

Before, Weller Street:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg215...png&res=medium
The Crimson Kimono

Now, Astronaut Ellison S. Onizuka Street:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg683...jpg&res=medium
Google Street View

Mr. Onizuka was killed in the space shuttle Challenger accident and the street was renamed in his honor.
You can see a replica of the space shuttle at the other end of the street.

The Nisei Week Festival noted on the banner in the screen shot is still held every year, by the way:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg221...jpg&res=medium
mymodernmet.com

Hey! If they're serving Kirin, I'm there. :cheers:

GaylordWilshire Dec 12, 2011 3:19 PM

??????
 
It seems that an invaluable resource has been lost: http://www.latimemachines.com/

I won't throw myself off the Colorado Street Bridge, but I do think the loss of this site is truly terrible--I relied on it often to solve old-restaurant mysteries, even as late as recent posts on 333 S. La Cienega. I'm not sure why it wasn't left up even if it couldn't be attended to--seems such a waste of what was clearly a huge amount of research.

transitfan Dec 12, 2011 5:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5513368)
It seems that an invaluable resource has been lost: http://www.latimemachines.com/

I won't throw myself off the Colorado Street Bridge, but I do think the loss of this site is truly terrible--I relied on it often to solve old-restaurant mysteries, even as late as recent posts on 333 S. La Cienega. I'm not sure why it wasn't left up even if it couldn't be attended to--seems such a waste of what was clearly a huge amount of research.

Unfortunately, I never visited that site (never even heard of it until your post), but sounds like it was a good resource. As for why it disappeared, could be that the webmaster could no longer afford the hosting fee (I assume there were a lot of pictures on the site, which chew up bandwith, so the costs may have been prohibitive). Hopefully, someone will revive it in the future.

JIMSHEFFIELD Dec 12, 2011 7:44 PM

Wow, I loved that website!

GaylordWilshire Dec 12, 2011 8:26 PM

latimemachines.com
 
While over the years many have accused me of it, I'm sure I'm not losing my mind. This morning when I posted about the apparent demise of latimemachines.com, clicking on that link produced a two-line message informing followers of the site that "DUE TO HEALTH REASONS, I CAN NO LONGER CONTINUE THE SITE" or words to that effect.... Well, I should have taken a screenshot as proof of sanity, because now the link seems to work... although I tried a number of the main page's links and only two links are working... fortunately they are two of the four "LA OLD OR EXTINCT RESTAURANTS"--check them out while they last:

http://www.latimemachines.com/new_page_42.htm

http://www.latimemachines.com/new_page_43.htm

Very strange.

Maybe the site will return in full force, but if not, here's a sample of some of the great information that seems to be at risk:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c...5%252520PM.jpg

All the rest of the links seem to be dead.... including the one labeled "CONTACT ME"....

EDIT: 10 minutes after I posted that... we're back to this:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-t...2520PM.bmp.jpg
... although as of this moment, the two other links work. Allright--perhaps it's not my sanity that is in question, but that I
have too much time on my hands. Next noir story please!

GaylordWilshire Dec 12, 2011 9:21 PM

http://jpg1.lapl.org/spnb01/00007141.jpgLAPL

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics18/00008773.jpgLAPL

Speaking of "White Spots," here's a restaurant I noticed listed on the aforementioned ailing latimemachines.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4...2520PM.bmp.jpglatimemachines.

The location above is, of course, given away by the Wilshire Specials....


5467 Wilshire (at Dunsmuir) still stands, though pretty much ruined by alterations:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-c...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogel Street View

Can't tell if 7266 Beverly Blvd is the same building, but it could be.

From Ebay:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-t...2520PM.bmp.jpg
Although there is no address on the matchbook, the logos on it and the building sign match....

Interestingly, Wikipedia mentions the White Spot, though only as the inspiration for the name of a Canadian restaurant chain:

"The [Canadian] restaurant was founded on June 16, 1928, by Nat Bailey. His first idea for a name for the eatery had been Granville Barbecue, but Nat instead took the advice of a friend who suggested he call it White Spot after a restaurant on Wilshire Boulevard in Los Angeles, California—in part because the name sounded spotless and clean."

ethereal_reality Dec 12, 2011 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5355435)
The first bar to open after the repeal of prohibition.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/155...ute1a6lapl.jpg
lapl



http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9...on1933oneo.jpg
lapl

Does anyone know where in L.A. this was located?






below: I finally found a couple interior photographs of the Malamute Saloon. Still no address.


http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7...loon1933no.jpg
LAPL

The girl with the dated hairdo could be an extra from a nearby movie studio. (just trying to find clues to its location)






http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/2...aloon1933a.jpg
LAPL

ethereal_reality Dec 13, 2011 12:40 AM

The elegant Century Plaza Hotel before its grand opening in 1966.


http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/9...otel1966eb.jpg
ebay





http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9...otel1966eb.jpg

Minoru Yamasaki also designed the World Trade Center in New York City.

______

3940dxer Dec 13, 2011 7:41 AM

Seeing these old signs while hiking yesterday, I thought of this thread. They mark two fire roads in the Verdugo hills, between Glendale and Burbank.

I wonder if at one time Mr. Beaudry owned or hoped to develop this land.


http://wwww.dkse.net/david/BeaudrySign.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dropdeadsuit/3320650445/

GaylordWilshire Dec 13, 2011 11:59 AM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8...2520PM.bmp.jpgLAPL

Fab Fifties Fan Dec 13, 2011 8:53 PM

Back in April of this year, GaylordWilshire posted about the Gates of Berkley Square and other structures designed by famed architect Alfred Rosenheim.

While perusing AOL Real Estate today I came across this interesting post about the Rosenheim mansion, at 1120 Westchester Place in Country Club/Hancock Park, having been listed for sale at $4.5 million. I recognized the structure immediately as being the creepy mansion in American Horror Story! Fun stuff!!!

From the AOL Real Estate article, "The six-bedroom, five-bathroom property was designed by celebrated architect Alfred Rosenheim (designer of iconic Los Angeles monuments such as the Hellman Building, the Hamburger Department Store, and the Eugene W. Britt House) and has hit the market for $4.5 million...Details such as stained-glass windows, silver and gold leaf hand-painted ceilings, Tiffany stained glass windows, rich wood paneling and six stunning vintage fireplaces make it not-your-average L.A. mansion. So unique, in fact, that it's been declared a Los Angeles Cultural Monument"

A contemporary photograph of the mansion from the listing.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/507...kparkmanse.png
AOL Real Estate

An undated noirish photo
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2...nseundated.png
Jim Lewis photographer

A great screen shot from AHS, with inset, showing how it was "creeped out" for filming.
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5...nseamerica.png
LA Curbed

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 4832516)
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067265.jpgLAPL


The gates of Berkeley Square were designed by Alfred Rosenheim, who also gave us the Hellman Building, Hamburger's Department Store, and Clune's Broadway Theater downtown as well as the Doheny conservatory and natatorium in Chester Place and the Britt house and the Second Church of Christ Scientist, both still on Adams.

Here is an interesting shot of the church under construction, and one of it finished:

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics51/00075483.jpgLAPL

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics51/00075490.jpgLAPL

The AOL article is here: http://realestate.aol.com/blog/2011/...-horror-story/

~Jon Paul

GaylordWilshire Dec 13, 2011 11:20 PM

A stretch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fab Fifties Fan (Post 5515089)
Back in April of this year, GaylordWilshire posted about the Gates of Berkley Square and other structures designed by famed architect Alfred Rosenheim.

While perusing AOL Real Estate today I came across this interesting post about the Rosenheim mansion, at 1120 Westchester Place in Country Club/Hancock Park, having been listed for sale at $4.5 million.
~Jon Paul

Oh the lengths to which real estate brokers will go to co-opt a better (much, in this case) neighborhood! Hancock Park? I don't think so....

This house was a nunnery once and has been on the market forever--literally years and years--for something like $7M at one time I think (totally insane). Even though it's probably a maintenance nightmare, it would be worth that or more if it actually was in Hancock Park--as it is, I can't see who in their right mind wouldn't take $4.5M and spend it on a better neighborhood. Sacrifice, say, a couple thousand square feet for a house in a district with less of a fear factor... and I'm not referring to the "American Horror Story" aspect of fear.

Which is not to say that I didn't enjoy your post, FFF. And which is not to say that I don't hope someone will step up to the plate and buy the Rosenheim house and love it.

ethereal_reality Dec 14, 2011 12:34 AM

One of the more intriguing houses I have come across using Google Street View is down the street at 1255.
I've always liked its slightly 'haunted' look....very noirish.


http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3...onideawest.jpg
google street view



below: Click on the link to see this house in its prime.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3725

FredH Dec 14, 2011 1:44 AM

Malamute Saloon
 
Ethereal_Reality:

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/9...on1933oneo.jpg
lapl

I looked everywhere for this place and found very little. According to LAPL, the addresses over the doors are 1916-1918 at an unknown street. From the look of the buildings, it appears to be some type of tourist area. The street out front seems to be some sort of unpaved walking area. Could it be at the beach, or somewhere? :shrug:

ethereal_reality Dec 14, 2011 1:46 AM

After the recent posts on the 'White Spot' (be it Magnolia Park or a bar on Wilshire) I was reminded of a White Spot Garage.

Well, I FINALLY found the photo I was thinking of, and I was wrong.....it is simply White Garage. No 'Spot' to it at all.


http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3...3photowhit.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...15304/CHS-2078


above: Notice the Hotel Woodward center left, it would eventually become the Bristol Hotel (covered earlier in this thread).

Recently I found this great matchbook of a nightclub called "The Village'. It turns out it was located in the Woodward/Bristol Hotel building.


http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8...ckrfrankke.jpg
found on ebay




below: The inside of the matchbook is what makes it so great.



http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8...ckrfrankke.jpg



OOH-LA-LA!


http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/385...llagexhuge.jpg




below: A wonderful photo of the Bristol Hotel courtesy of the USC Digital Archives.


http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/243...bristol195.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...OS-ANG-MIS-004






below: The Bristol today...'The Village' nightclub was located in the area left of the main entrance.


http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/5...esitetoday.jpg
google street view






below: Sadly, the area around the Bristol Hotel still seems somewhat dicey. Yes, the Golden Gopher is next door, but look at that other building.


http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9...ghborgolde.jpg
google street view





below: And across the street you are greeted by this. :(
It is the 8th Street side of the once respectable Commercial Exchange Building.


http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6...hangefront.jpg
google street view



Oh....and the fate of the White Garage? The site is now a four story public parking garage.

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ethereal_reality Dec 14, 2011 1:57 AM

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/9...elwoodward.jpg
ebay

ethereal_reality Dec 14, 2011 2:21 AM

Another glimpse of the Hotel Woodward. This was posted way back on page 60....but it's so great I thought it wouldn't hurt to post it anew.


http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3...viewposted.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1323829282878

ethereal_reality Dec 14, 2011 3:29 AM

Found on ebay.

An unfinished 'Castle-in-the Sky' overlooking Cahuenga Pass.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/469...rhollywood.jpg




http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8...stlepass1r.jpg

Has anyone heard of this place before?

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GaylordWilshire Dec 14, 2011 3:35 AM

Back to Westchester Place for a moment...
 
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-T...s632/rives.jpgEstately

Yet another interesting Westchester Place house is #1130... the Judson Rives house at the ne corner of 12th Street. It is not only next door to Rosenheim's house--it was designed by him. Sam Watters's book Houses of Los Angeles 1885-1919 has some great early shots unobstructed by vegetation. The nuns who once occupied Rosenheim's house also owned this one.... The shot above is not clear, though interesting in that it almost looks like a painting--anyway, it's the best shot I could find. Current Google views reveal almost nothing of the house behind the jungle.

FredH Dec 14, 2011 4:41 AM

Flood on W. 43rd Place
 
:drowning:http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6...versary024.jpg
Los Angeles Times

Now:
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3192/floodz.jpg
Google Street View

FredH Dec 14, 2011 5:06 AM

The old "new" downtown L.A.
 
Early 1980's I believe

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2802/25532d1.jpg
Earl Witscher, Modernage Photo Service

(sorry about the photo quality, its a photo of a photo mural)


Hey! What is this?

If you look real close between the Security Pacific Building and the new Crocker Plaza...

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5885/pedbridge.jpg

...its the pedestrian bridge over Taylor Yard. Still there!

jg6544 Dec 14, 2011 6:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fab Fifties Fan (Post 5515089)
Back in April of this year, GaylordWilshire posted about the Gates of Berkley Square and other structures designed by famed architect Alfred Rosenheim.

While perusing AOL Real Estate today I came across this interesting post about the Rosenheim mansion, at 1120 Westchester Place in Country Club/Hancock Park, having been listed for sale at $4.5 million. I recognized the structure immediately as being the creepy mansion in American Horror Story! Fun stuff!!!

From the AOL Real Estate article, "The six-bedroom, five-bathroom property was designed by celebrated architect Alfred Rosenheim (designer of iconic Los Angeles monuments such as the Hellman Building, the Hamburger Department Store, and the Eugene W. Britt House) and has hit the market for $4.5 million...Details such as stained-glass windows, silver and gold leaf hand-painted ceilings, Tiffany stained glass windows, rich wood paneling and six stunning vintage fireplaces make it not-your-average L.A. mansion. So unique, in fact, that it's been declared a Los Angeles Cultural Monument"


The AOL article is here: http://realestate.aol.com/blog/2011/...-horror-story/

~Jon Paul

Nice building, but in that neighborhood, it's probably not worth more than $2 mil., if that.

FredH Dec 14, 2011 6:27 AM

Build Your Own House?
 
There is no sound with this, but its kind of interesting (and a little strange)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ekGp...eature=related
YouTube

The salesman is showing a tract map to a customer:

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7651/bellut.jpg
Footage Farm

Came out like this:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9389/bell2.jpg
Google Earth

Looks like the guy's house turned into a warehouse


I kept waiting for the Stooges to show up: :pepper::awesome::dancingbacon

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4733/bell3.jpg
The Three Stooges, Columbia Pictures

GaylordWilshire Dec 14, 2011 1:20 PM

Sugar Hill
 
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a...2/2272x200.jpgUSCDL


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-b...2520AM.bmp.jpgKansas Sebastian

This was the end for the Thomas E. Gibbon house once on the big lot at 2272 S. Harvard, across from the still-extant Rindge house at 2263 (and at the opposite end of the block from Hattie McDaniel's at 2203 (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=4650). Other neighbors still standing on the street include the Washburn house at 2200 (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=4630), the Beckett house at 2218 (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1849), and the Cochran house (2249). Btw, don't miss the Robert Plant/Alison Krause video in the third link above.

Still surviving from the Gibbon house is this long arroyo-stone wall along LaSalle Street:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-v...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View


When I look at Kansas Sebastian's photostream of these great houses--of all the big houses from Pico-Union out toward the west--I am still amazed that Los Angeles has let so much architectural magnificence go to seed. It would be the equivalent of New Orleans (where I grew up) letting go of the Garden District and the entire length of St. Charles Avenue--but being bigger, L.A. has lost even more. Not that I don't understand the economics, demographics, and geographics behind the abandonment, but I'm still staggered. Windsor Hills, Hancock Park, Bel-Air and even Beverly Hills have their charms, but one can only imagine the mature magnificence of these old Los Angeles neighborhoods were they as intact as they were in their heydays.

jhny12 Dec 14, 2011 1:32 PM

:previous::previous:

I believe the movie "Running With Scissors" was also filmed at the Beckett House. It was painted Pink.

GaylordWilshire Dec 14, 2011 2:32 PM

etc.
 
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h...2520AM.bmp.jpgKansas Sebastian

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-L...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

The George I Cochran house mentioned in the previous post... 2249 S. Harvard.


And the only other extant house on the block between 22nd Street and the circle in front of the Rindge house is that of Thomas W. Phillips at 2215:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Q...2520AM.bmp.jpgWikipedia

Wes Craven's The People Under the Stairs was filmed here, and it was used in the poster (photoshopped with other non-Harvard Blvd houses):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...2520AM.bmp.jpgIMDB


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