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Bombardier Jul 16, 2017 5:50 PM

^This project is flying. Nice picture!

SolarWind Jul 21, 2017 8:47 AM

July 17, 2017


Notyrview Jul 21, 2017 12:46 PM

Whoa, it's gonna looks so epic from there

maru2501 Jul 21, 2017 3:22 PM

along with 1000 and 800 S. Mich

KWILLSKYLINE Jul 21, 2017 4:05 PM

Holy crap this thing is starting to fly. Can we get it's sister tower two in the works? And i know we've discussed it before but it reminds me every time I see that point of view^^^. Please dont build townhomes south of OMPW. Give us 40 floors, thats all we're asking.

SolarWind Jul 27, 2017 1:33 AM

July 26, 2017


LouisVanDerWright Jul 27, 2017 2:15 AM

Holy crap this guy is flying!

BVictor1 Jul 27, 2017 3:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 7876949)
Holy crap this guy is flying!

Mainly because the parking structure is being done separately, so they were able to take off.

Essex should fly too as they only have like 80 spaces I think.

Le Baron Jul 28, 2017 12:14 PM

7/22/2017
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4311/3...18df32df_h.jpg

7/28/2017
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4294/3...51b61a82_h.jpg

BVictor1 Jul 28, 2017 1:43 PM

07/27/17

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...249295/enhance

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...249284/enhance

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...249248/enhance

BrandonJXN Jul 28, 2017 2:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Le Baron (Post 7866729)
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4305/3...3494fae4_h.jpg
I think they're up 2 more floors since I took this picture.

Did I remember seeing that phase 3 of this project are going to be a group of townhomes going on this lot?

BVictor1 Jul 28, 2017 2:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonJXN (Post 7878338)
Did I remember seeing that phase 3 of this project are going to be a group of townhomes going on this lot?

More than likely.

harryc Aug 2, 2017 6:00 PM

July 26







SolarWind Aug 3, 2017 3:41 AM

August 2, 2017


BVictor1 Aug 3, 2017 4:41 AM

^10 floors down... 70 to go...

r18tdi Aug 3, 2017 12:54 PM

So are these parking levels? I haven't spotted anything that looks like a ramp. Could just be me...

harryc Aug 3, 2017 1:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r18tdi (Post 7883605)
So are these parking levels? I haven't spotted anything that looks like a ramp. Could just be me...

Yes - the giveaway is the green rebar (coated against salt), ramps can come later.

Guyinchicago Aug 3, 2017 3:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r18tdi (Post 7883605)
So are these parking levels? I haven't spotted anything that looks like a ramp. Could just be me...

The parking portion has not been built yet, it will fill that empty space on the south west part.

Ned.B Aug 3, 2017 5:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SolarWind (Post 7883426)
August 2, 2017


If you look at the side of the south shear wall, you can actually see the outline of the attachment points for the future ramps.

But I assume that the parking must at least extend some into the constructed tower portion, as otherwise these south facing areas would have no windows.

intrepidDesign Aug 3, 2017 5:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ned.B (Post 7883903)
If you look at the side of the south core, you can actually see the outline of the attachment points for the future ramps.

But I assume that the parking must at least extend some into the constructed tower portion, as otherwise these south facing areas would have no windows.

Could this be why we've never seen a rendering of the south elevation? I've always been curious as to what this side of the building will look like. My guess is we will have a multi story blank wall until we hit the amenity deck.

Skyguy_7 Aug 3, 2017 6:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ned.B (Post 7883903)

But I assume that the parking must at least extend some into the constructed tower portion, as otherwise these south facing areas would have no windows.

As Harry noted, you can see a lot of green rebar in the tower portion, likely where parking ramps continue. Although, I see no rebar sticking out of the Southwest quadrant, which could mean these will be windows, which would be nice.

simon07 Aug 3, 2017 7:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intrepidDesign (Post 7883916)
Could this be why we've never seen a rendering of the south elevation? I've always been curious as to what this side of the building will look like. My guess is we will have a multi story blank wall until we hit the amenity deck.

It will be the largest blank wall in Chicago probably.

Kngkyle Aug 4, 2017 3:08 AM

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Originally Posted by simon07 (Post 7884037)
It will be the largest blank wall in Chicago probably.

Until phase 2 is built.... assuming it's built.

UPChicago Aug 4, 2017 1:52 PM

it seems like a blank wall if the model is accurate, they must be confident the second phase is going to happen.
https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

Steely Dan Aug 4, 2017 1:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UPChicago (Post 7884584)
they must be confident the second phase is going to happen.

a phase 2 WILL be built.

it's just a matter of when.

the site is so ridiculously prime that even if it doesn't make it in this cycle, it will in the next one or two.

a lot zoned for a 900' tower at the corner of michigan and roosevelt with forever guaranteed lake and park views is not gonna sit vacant for the next 100 years.

UPChicago Aug 4, 2017 2:01 PM

^ I agree, I mean confident the proposed phase 2 design will be built.

jc5680 Aug 4, 2017 2:18 PM

Eh, maybe they are confident, but I don't think the design is really an indication of that. The large party wall is handled no differently than how other developments built to the lot line are.

Notyrview Aug 4, 2017 2:21 PM

If the market doesn't tank it could be 5 years

BVictor1 Aug 7, 2017 4:58 AM

08/04/17

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...081558/enhance

harryc Aug 10, 2017 12:37 PM

Aug 8









aaron38 Aug 10, 2017 5:33 PM

Bears game tonight. Is the tower crane visible from inside the stadium yet? From what I hear, watching this climb into the skyline may be the most exciting part of the games this season.

And can someone estimate what height the crane is at? I've been keeping a watch for it, and can easily see 1160 S. Michigan (~500ft) but can't pick out the crane yet.

Pioneer Aug 10, 2017 8:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 7884588)
a phase 2 WILL be built.

it's just a matter of when.

the site is so ridiculously prime that even if it doesn't make it in this cycle, it will in the next one or two.

a lot zoned for a 900' tower at the corner of michigan and roosevelt with forever guaranteed lake and park views is not gonna sit vacant for the next 100 years.

Looking at the render, it looks like the second tower will be ~960-980'. Any chance it becomes a supertall? That would be so nice down there.

J_M_Tungsten Aug 10, 2017 11:47 PM

These look good as a pair, but I would rather the next tower be different. I was always partial to the original site plan where all 4 building were different. Yes, some were whimsical in design, but the variety was interesting.

KWILLSKYLINE Aug 11, 2017 1:33 AM

^^^ I loved the original design of tower three with that half oval curve all the way up. Tower four was almost like this current design but it was plated gold.

skyscraper Aug 11, 2017 1:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pioneer (Post 7889699)
Looking at the render, it looks like the second tower will be ~960-980'. Any chance it becomes a supertall? That would be so nice down there.

No chance Phase 2 will be supertall. The area is zoned for max 900' to the ceiling of the highest occupied unit. You can have mechanical levels, etc, above that, but they wouldn't have 100' of unoccupied mechanical space.

BVictor1 Aug 11, 2017 1:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyscraper (Post 7889914)
No chance Phase 2 will be supertall. The area is zoned for max 900' to the ceiling of the highest occupied unit. You can have mechanical levels, etc, above that, but they wouldn't have 100' of unoccupied mechanical space.

It's not like that 900' "threshold" can't be changed.

Al they have to do is ask...

Kumdogmillionaire Aug 11, 2017 6:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7889916)
It's not like that 900' "threshold" can't be changed.

Al they have to do is ask...

Yeah, the guy is acting like height limits have never been changed in the history of Chicago. I mean Helmut Jahn's building may have had a reduction to 832ft, but that is well above what was the original Michigan Avenue height restrictions.

skyscraper Aug 11, 2017 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumdogmillionaire (Post 7890051)
Yeah, the guy is acting like height limits have never been changed in the history of Chicago. I mean Helmut Jahn's building may have had a reduction to 832ft, but that is well above what was the original Michigan Avenue height restrictions.

It may be possible for the restriction to change, but I am telling you as a guy who worked for Vinoly and spent 9 months of my life on the design of phase 2 that it is not going to be supertall.
unless that changed since I left....:D

Kumdogmillionaire Aug 11, 2017 6:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyscraper (Post 7890073)
It may be possible for the restriction to change, but I am telling you as a guy who worked for Vinoly and spent 9 months of my life on the design of phase 2 that it is not going to be supertall.
unless that changed since I left....:D

Well the designs have already changed multiple times, so it seems very possible to me that the height would change over time. All depends on when these 9 months were.

aaron38 Aug 11, 2017 8:19 PM

Did the foundation support it? (Getting ot I know).

skyscraper Aug 11, 2017 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumdogmillionaire (Post 7890516)
Well the designs have already changed multiple times, so it seems very possible to me that the height would change over time. All depends on when these 9 months were.

last year; my last day was the monday before thanksgiving.
I am sure the design has changed since then, but the zoning determination would not have because Phase One is included in it.

harryc Aug 13, 2017 4:45 PM

Aug 12


Parking Palooza - 8 floors and counting

KWILLSKYLINE Aug 14, 2017 2:02 PM

It's so weird leaving the parking garage for later. Is this a common thing that I just haven't noticed? Does anybody know at what point they will start building it? Will they wait for complete T/O or somewhere in the middle? Either way, very cool project.

SteelMonkey Aug 14, 2017 2:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWILLSKYLINE (Post 7892393)
It's so weird leaving the parking garage for later. Is this a common thing that I just haven't noticed? Does anybody know at what point they will start building it? Will they wait for complete T/O or somewhere in the middle? Either way, very cool project.


Dont know for a fact but with this design it kinda made sense to add it later. Def sped up the process with the base. Original plans were to install a 2nd crane by Oct to begin work on the structure.

intrepidDesign Aug 15, 2017 4:40 PM

I was down in this area yesterday and man o man is this thing going to command a presence. All the picture and updates are amazing, but this building feels so much larger in person. It's only what, 11, 12 stories off the ground and it already feels substantial, at it's full height it's going to soar, thinking about it's big brother makes my head spin. We're getting a gem here.

vexxed82 Aug 15, 2017 7:03 PM

Can anyone explain the lighter concrete near what will eventually be the feet of the parking ramps? Almost look like temporary patches.

Parking Palooza - 8 floors and counting
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chrisvfr800i Aug 15, 2017 9:27 PM

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Originally Posted by vexxed82 (Post 7893668)
Can anyone explain the lighter concrete near what will eventually be the feet of the parking ramps? Almost look like temporary patches.

Parking Palooza - 8 floors and counting

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I was gonna say it's puddling of the higher strength column/wall concrete in the slab, but I'm not so sure.

KWILLSKYLINE Aug 15, 2017 10:29 PM

I wonder if it's less dense or something to make it easier to maneuver the rebar at a different time.

harryc Aug 15, 2017 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWILLSKYLINE (Post 7893938)
I wonder if it's less dense or something to make it easier to maneuver the rebar at a different time.

My guess - and only a guess - is that the concrete has been dressed (either ground or grouted) at the point the forms were for the angled ramp. You can see a similar discoloration on the blank wall.

gebs Aug 17, 2017 3:16 PM

View from the amenity deck of 1250 S Michigan

http://i.imgur.com/NbSBwrKh.jpg


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