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I would think it would be super cool if they built a twin to Northshore at this site. I've always thought that that building needed a twin counterpart built next to it, like twin monuments flanking a grand avenue.
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Did I not say this would be the biggest balloon popper even moreso than Fairmont. I think it would be a huge mistake for Block 185 to end up like the surrounding blocks in terms of height. Its prominence and location scream for an 800+ highrise. The city is losing valuble real estate for mediocre 300-400 footers and they don't seem to care.
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Not to rub it in, but...:(
http://i.imgur.com/H6H2HxK.png https://www.instagram.com/blume_george/ Edit: The link confirms that it was 900' tall. |
Oh man. Could they at the very least keep that awesome podium. Such a unique pool design and not your generic looking facade. It hides the parking so well while being differentiated from the rest of the tower. Maybe keep the glass design for the tower portion, rise to 450 ft, light the Top the same way and call it a day. That would still be a win at this lot but of course, we'll always yearn for this one.
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That thing would have been like Lever House on steroids. That would have been a beauty. I think a building like that, though, is better suited for a site farther north in downtown. At the very least the old courthouse block.
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Man, I really hope something 600+ goes in here. Greenwater desperately needs height diversity.
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Fellows, I am new here! For lot 185 in Austin, has a residential tower been confirmed? I have seen a lot of renders and pictures about huge buildings. I am not sure if these will actually be built. Regardless, the lot will be residential?
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I don't recall seeing this rendering before. But then again, there have been too many different versions of this project over the past 10 years to keep track of. It's obviously not the current one because Northshore was tweaked after this rendering. But I suspect this is closer to the final product than something like that awesome 900 footer. A Google search links it back to Trammell Crow's website, but I couldn't find it there.
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I'm actually OK with a 300 or 500 foot tower (not 400!) in that location, I think a 900 footer would look odd right on the edge of the river, better to be located more inside downtown so there's a nice step-up effect from the river/edge of downtown. Just my opinion :)
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I do think it's the specific lot and location that is a big reason for my change in view. It wouldn't work well if it was another lot mainly because of how the surrounding waterfront skyline has developed. Another reason was the rendering of the 900 footer, to visualize how a tower that tall would look there. Especially if it played off of Northshore in tower placement would look really nice and the view from the observation hill would indeed be impressive. Now it doesn't have to be 900 feet, but anywhere in the 750-850 foot range would work nicely as well. |
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Interesting stuff here:
http://austin.towers.net/conversatio...-george-blume/ JR: There was recently a situation where some people online dug up renderings of a tower at Block 185, and it was crazy tall — everyone was so pumped, but once we got ahold of it and started contacting the firms involved we realized it was just speculative. I hated having to tell everyone that. GB: That’s a really difficult site. I can’t talk about what they want to put there, but what they want to put there is complex. JR: The banners on the fence right now say “luxury mixed-use.” I don’t think that means anything. GB: No, it really doesn’t. An office tower with a restaurant at the bottom is a mixed-use building. Technically, 500 West Second Street is a mixed-use building. Anyway, the 185 site is tricky because you can’t access it through Cesar Chavez Street; and since it’s on Shoal Creek you can’t access it on the west side. No curb cuts are allowed on Second Street, so you can’t do anything there. The only way to access it in terms of the parking entrance is from Nueces Street. JR: That’s where Austin Proper puts their garage entrance as well, I believe. GB: Yeah, they have a parking garage entry off Nueces Street, along with their loading dock. They also got a variance to do a drop off with a curb cut on Second Street. Austin Proper shares an alley with Third and Shoal. So they get an alley to use as their loading dock; but Block 185 doesn’t have an alley. Let’s just say there’s one parking garage entry for Block 185 — it would have to be Nueces Street along with a loading dock entry. So it’s a really complicated site. And loading docks have to have very close proximity to elevators in terms of service elevators. That means your ground level back-of-house structures are all concentrated close to the corner of Second and Nueces Streets. But that corner is one of the best corners in Austin! JR: So you can’t put your loading dock there, your dumpsters – yeah, it’d be a mess. So is there an elegant solution to this problem? GB: Sure. JR: What is it? GB: I can’t tell you that. I know, but I can’t tell you. JR: [Laughs] Fair enough. |
That was a good read. It includes a render I haven't seen of 3rd and Shoal from street level looking up showing how green the glass is, and also some good explanations of glass make up and color, along with restrictions on how reflective it can be. I think we were indirectly mentioned during the interview a few times.
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