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There's a reason everybody tries not to make eye contact with anybody while riding public transit, it's like riding with a pack of feral dogs, one accidental glance can be taken as offense. These are all problems that are avoided by driving in your own car, jamming out, relaxing in a perfect air temperature, or windows down for some fresh air, without looking for barf in your seat before you sit down. Just about every single transit system in America is NOT used by investment bankers and lawyers. In Manhattan, yes that's common, just about everywhere else, no, that's not the reality. |
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"I'm not gonna ride transit bc I don't like drunks, lowlifes, and people staring at my wife's tits. Gotta run, headed to Panama City". Again, people are HORRIBLE at risk assessment. There are more people staring at your wife at Walmart than on a train, where most riders have earbuds and are tuned to their phones or napping. I don't think I've had a weird experience on transit during normal business hours, anywhere, ever. And nowadays no one even looks at anyone; they're glued to screens. |
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Crawford, you should get out of your bubble and ride the Blue line (or whatever they're calling it now?) from Long Beach to DTLA at 11:30pm. Get out on some of the platforms in between. Maybe take a bus through some really bad neighborhoods in the Southside of Chicago, get out and walk around after dark. What a bizarre worldview. |
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Obviously not everyday behavior, though, for any mobility mode. |
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There's also road rage. I don't think I've encountered train conductor rage.
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And random drive by shootings. Hard to shoot at a train that's speeding along in the subway tunnels. This just happened this morning, btw. No shootings on BART today as far as I know. Quote:
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There's a reason why many public transit numbers are in decline in many cities of America despite rail extensions, it's because people feel more comfortable in cars (that includes uber and Lyft). |
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plenty of professional people ride the bus in chicago.
plenty of professional people do it in new york. plenty of tech workers ride the light rail and cal train in silicon valley. the blue line to long beach from dtla is pretty mild, camelback is just scared of regular working LA city people. |
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5% is generous, btw. Riding the bus in Memphis is not the same as commuting from the Upper Westside to Lower Manhattan at 8:30am. |
People who can afford cars ride transit when it's more convenient, whether or not there are unsavory characters is such a non-material factor driving transit ridership. The vast majority of American cities do not have the geographic constraints or traffic that Manhattan does and have spent half a century or more building their cities around cars. As such, transit is rarely a time-saver or more convenient. Make driving a car less desirable, and transit number increase.
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I do miss that. But as I've repeatedly said, I think a crowded transit vehicle may be one of the most risky venues there is for covid. Most of the time in SF you've got somebody else's face within 18-24 inches of yours, often several peoples'. And the ventilation is typically poor. If the windows are open, they are only open a few inches and there's not much air movement in and out of the vehicle. So I'm not riding right now. Most of the busses in SF are a lot like commuting on the Manhattan subway: All seats taken, people packed into the standing room like sardines. But the other bad part is that plenty of people board the rear doors and don't pay and these are the most unsavory element: The unwashed, the criminal, the folks you do NOT want to sit next to you. I've never been assaulted but I have had a guy get on with a pit bull that preceded to try very hard to get at the groceries I was bringing home. |
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Now that I've spent a couple days in London, It's far exceeded my expectations....
Some masks on public transit, but many people with no masks. Very few masks on the sidewalks. Everything feels pretty open and normal here. Thank god. |
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If you have other options, I'd recommend those be taken. |
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