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AlvaroLegido Apr 10, 2013 8:18 PM

1949 !
 
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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6084766)

Incredible that the Baker Block was still in existence downtown on Main St when the above photo was taken. One could really time travel back then. The divide between pre- and post-war LA was sharp as a knife. [tovangar2]

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Very true ! The picture from Criss Cross below is moving for guys in the know. It shows 4 periods overlaping !
1. the Plaza on top of the slope from the beginning ;
2. the very last buildings of old Chinatown on the just widened Marchessault from the 1880's ;
3. a car from the 1920's or early 1930's (amazing it's still around !) ;
4. beautiful Yvonne in the fashion of 1949.


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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4854725)


ethereal_reality Apr 10, 2013 9:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6084735)
Strictly something for the daredevil boys.

http://youtu.be/K4YmVP6i4qw

Thanks for the video link CityBoyDoug. That crash was wicked.
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SoCal1954 Apr 10, 2013 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6086082)
Thanks for the video link CityBoyDoug. That crash was wicked.
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Wow! :eeekk:

I couldn't imagine splitting traffic in that thing, on the Santa Ana Fwy., during the commute period!? :rolleyes:

ethereal_reality Apr 10, 2013 10:27 PM

Bunker Hill redevelopment model, circa 1952.

http://imageshack.us/a/img594/6825/a...redevelopm.jpg
found on an old cd of mine
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ethereal_reality Apr 10, 2013 11:02 PM

-tourist snapshot, Union Station 1940s.

http://imageshack.us/a/img41/7808/aabsnapunion1940s.jpg
ebay



http://imageshack.us/a/img12/9417/aabtour.jpg
gsv
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ethereal_reality Apr 10, 2013 11:13 PM

beauty secrets...

http://imageshack.us/a/img705/7559/a...ttinglishm.jpg
http://pattyinglishms.hubpages.com/h...-in-the-2010s#
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tovangar2 Apr 11, 2013 9:54 AM

The Turning Point (1952) has been covered in bits and pieces before on the thread, but posting the shot of the gas tanks DTLA from the film made me want to leave a few more out in the rain, plus a couple of "afters". I hope this isn't too many, but they're easy and fun to do (and besides, I can't sleep). Thx to Beaudry and others for some of the IDs. There's also a mystery or two if anyone has answers. There's a couple of duplicates, but I skipped Angels Flight. Its been covered.

Another Holden outing set in a city that's not LA, à la "Union Station". Carolyn Jones has a cameo as a blonde. Everything's from Paramount/Youtube, unless noted.

Zipping east on 9th between Los Angeles and Santee with the Eastern Columbia in the distance. Except for signage, the north side of 9th has not changed at all:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-R...20258%2BPM.jpg

Heading north on Olive, coming up to 3rd:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9...02421%2BAM.jpg

3rd and Olive, our old friend, I've lost track of how many films used this location. The camera never swings around to show us Angels Flight though:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-h...02555%2BAM.jpg

Tom Tully dances out of a cab outside the Gladden. Looking east on 1st at Olive:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g...02620%2BAM.jpg

Wm Holden, lurking in the shadows, watching as Tully enters the Gladden:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-q...02831%2BAM.jpg

The reverse shot, showing the inside of Pollinger's Market (according to Beaudry http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2155).
Holden exhibits a level of cool throughout most of this film that would snap a lesser man in half:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-W...02715%2BAM.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 6028286)
I don't think that we have seen this shot of the Gladden Hotel at the corner of First Street and Olive before:

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/131/gladdenapts.jpg
http://www.electricearl.com/bh/GladdenApts.html (1956, I believe)

Alexis Smith & Holden outside the Hill-Crest at #427, next door to the Sunshine Apts (Edith Head did the costumes):
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-c...03330%2BAM.jpg

Thugs spill out of the Sunshine. Nice shot of the dizzying steepness:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-x...03431%2BAM.jpg

Classy apartment building, but I can't make out the name Leland Bryant's "The Colonial House" (1930), 1416 Havenhurst, W Hollywood:
(Head should never have put Holden in a double-breasted suit):
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-s...03806%2BAM.jpg

Pulling away from The Colonial House, heading towards the hills:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C...03843%2BAM.jpg

Pulling up to the Spring St side of City Hall. What is that brown brick building? (Identified as the Bank of Italy Building by MR):
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-i...03957%2BAM.jpg

Holden tails Tully to City Hall, ducks behind a column and then watches from the top of the steps as Tully leaves:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0...04111%2BAM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l...04249%2BAM.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-w...04325%2BAM.jpg

Tully heads up 2nd St from Hill on foot:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-h...04425%2BAM.jpg

Tully's fedora vs de Corsia's homberg. In this instance, the homberg gets the upper hand:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Y...14339%2BPM.jpg

2nd & Hill today and all that's left of our beautiful railing:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-h...15113%2BAM.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t...15315%2BAM.jpg
gsv

de Corsia watches Tully head west:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J...04545%2BAM.jpg

Good companion shot to the one above, showing the roof lines of the buildings:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3...14721%2BAM.jpg
onbunkerhill.org

Today:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n...12334%2BPM.jpg
gsv

Closer view of the laundry and the liquor store on the north side of 2nd:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x...05602%2BAM.jpg

Cold-eyed hitman Tony Barr (interesting guy, check his IMDB page) gets the mark while the liquor store clerk freaks out. "Buy Oaleo Wine":
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-L...05858%2BAM.jpg

It's Barr's turn to take a hit:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G...10056%2BAM.jpg

An impressive number of extras show up in the aftermath of the double hit:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8...10324%2BAM.jpg

The neighborhood's abuzz (b/c, really now, how often does Wm Holden show up on 2nd St?):
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-S...10527%2BAM.jpg

Glimpses of the south side of 2nd:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-j...05804%2BAM.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-r...10003%2BAM.jpg

We take a detour to the Paramount lot (not the only one), as one's not actually allowed to set fire to LA (at least not in '52):
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B...11012%2BAM.jpg

A bar on Hill (?):
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-O...12708%2BAM.jpg

Holden gets caught in the double helix at the Hotel Central, 310 Clay St:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-h...12853%2BAM.jpg

Holden exits the back of the Vendome, 231 S Hill. They have a room for rent if you need one:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-S...12947%2BAM.jpg

Holden heads towards the Belmont, 251 S Hill:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-U...13038%2BAM.jpg

Holden meets a contact named "Pink" outside a discount store. The actor's uncredited, which is a shame b/c he's really good in both his scenes:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-V...13215%2BAM.jpg

Detroit hitman Neville Brand gets an "LA" job over the phone (Pool hall in a basement? Could this be Hollywood Billiards in the Hollywood Western Building?) LA played Detroit in "True Romance" too:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-i...13206%2BAM.jpg

Holden at the fights. The last 9 minutes of the film take place at this arena. I don't recognize it (Identified as Grand Olympic Auditorium, 1801 S Grand. Thx again MR):
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-N...13347%2BAM.jpg

MichaelRyerson Apr 11, 2013 1:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6086561)
Classy apartment building, but I can't make out the name (Head should never have put Holden in a double-breasted suit):


Holden at the fights. The last 9 minutes of the film take place at this arena. I don't recognize it:

The Stratford Arms, Holden's strictly a single-breasted kind of guy and I think it's the Olympic Auditorium.

ethereal_reality Apr 11, 2013 4:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6086672)
The Stratford Arms

Is this the Stratford Arms at 1735 W. 6th Street that had the fatal fire in 1974? (tovanger2 mentioned this fire earlier)


http://imageshack.us/a/img547/2430/a...stratford1.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Two-Pag...-/230950006944

http://imageshack.us/a/img145/5607/a...tratford1a.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Two-Pag...-/230950006944




http://imageshack.us/a/img132/5206/a...ordlatimes.jpg
http://framework.latimes.com/2010/11...artments-fire/




roof top the morning after
http://imageshack.us/a/img213/794/aa...ordroofmor.jpg
http://framework.latimes.com/2010/11...artments-fire/

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MichaelRyerson Apr 11, 2013 6:52 PM


I don't think so, E-R, I think the movie prop guys simply affixed a sign to the side of an appropriately 'classy' building. In the following frame Alexis, wearing gloves and severely plucked eyebrows and driving a Plymouth convertible, pulls away from the 'classy apartment building' and heads down a hill lined with mature trees and shrubbery in what appears to be an essentially residential neighborhood. At the fire ravaged real-life Stratford Apartments, we would be in a heavily commercial area and likely would see the Barbizon up the street on the right hand side. Even allowing for the intervening years, I don't think it's W. Sixth Street.

ethereal_reality Apr 11, 2013 7:00 PM

:previous: I thought the architectural style looked different as well. Thanks for your insight MR.
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..and thanks to T2 for that marvelous post on 'The Turning Point' (1952)

ethereal_reality Apr 11, 2013 7:24 PM

Brunswig Square, built in 1931 as the Brunswig Drug Co. Factory.

360 E. 2nd St.
http://imageshack.us/a/img96/3458/aa...gsquarejes.jpg
Jesus E. Salgado http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2593

Does anyone have a vintage photograph when this was the drug factory? I haven't had any luck yet.
I want to see what the building looked like before the modern windows were added.
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MichaelRyerson Apr 11, 2013 7:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6087184)
Brunswig Square, built in 1931 as the Brunswig Drug Co. Factory.

360 E. 2nd St.
http://imageshack.us/a/img96/3458/aa...gsquarejes.jpg
Jesus E. Salgado http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2593

Does anyone have a vintage photograph when this was the drug factory? I haven't had any luck yet.
I want to see what the building looked like before those modern windows were added.

I'm looking but gotta say, that's a seriously beautiful building.

tovangar2 Apr 11, 2013 7:58 PM

Thx MR & e_r. (I just spent way too long reading about the Grand Olympic Auditorium). I love TTP for the street-scapes and shop and bar interiors. Bunker Hill looks so sun-bleached and weather-beaten. Holden never looked better, but Alexis Smith and Edmond O'Brian are a couple of pills. The exterior shots on the Paramount lot are extremely jarring. They cannot compete with the real LA.

I'm still mystified by the brick building in this shot. I'm gonna kick myself when I find out:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-i...03957%2BAM.jpg

P.S.

There's a very interesting history of Brunswig Drug here: http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...ation-history/.

I had no idea Brunswig was French. Lucien Napoleon Brunswig.

ethereal_reality Apr 11, 2013 8:19 PM

I recently came across this ad from the Los Angeles Herald.

http://imageshack.us/a/img267/8611/a...otelauctio.jpg
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/

So did this spell the end for the Garvanza Hotel, or were there new owners after this date?



losangelespast
http://imageshack.us/a/img10/2040/aa...nzahotel2a.jpg
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/queen%2...language=fr_FR

I find it hard to believe the hotel only lasted 5 years. Does anyone know the details?
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AlvaroLegido Apr 11, 2013 8:23 PM

Single- or double- ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6086561)

Head should never have put Holden in a double-breasted suit.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...312%2520PM.jpg

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Holden's strictly a single-breasted kind of guy. [MichaelRyerson]
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What's the difference between a single-breasted kind of guy and a double-breasted kind of guy ? It may be obvious for american noirishers but not at all for a frenchie like me.
Please, Michael or Tovangar, tell me all about it.

MichaelRyerson Apr 11, 2013 8:36 PM

Here it is...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6087184)
Brunswig Square, built in 1931 as the Brunswig Drug Co. Factory.

360 E. 2nd St.
http://imageshack.us/a/img96/3458/aa...gsquarejes.jpg
Jesus E. Salgado http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2593

Does anyone have a vintage photograph when this was the drug factory? I haven't had any luck yet.
I want to see what the building looked like before the modern windows were added.
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Here it is at a distance in a Whittington shot, it appears only the front elevation was done for looks, the other windows, at least on this the west side, are more utilitarian...


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8380/8...82666723_o.png
Looking south-east down Weller Street, Dick Whittington, ca.1939

Brunswig Drug building center-right. I'd say the modern windows were an improvement.

USC digital archive/Dick Whittington Photography Collection, 1924-1987

ethereal_reality Apr 11, 2013 8:50 PM

:previous: I'd have to agree, the new windows make the building appear more vertical.


The old Brunswig Drug Co. Factory from the corner of 2nd and South Central.

http://imageshack.us/a/img42/4960/aabbrunswigcorner.jpg
gsv

At first I thought this one story section also dates to 1931, but your photograph shows a parking lot MR.
If this is a new structure (there's parking on the roof) they did a fine job matching it to the older building.

MichaelRyerson Apr 11, 2013 8:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6087339)
:previous: The new windows make the building appear more vertical. (at least on the sides)


The old Brunswig Drug Co. Factory from the corner of 2nd and South Central.

http://imageshack.us/a/img42/4960/aabbrunswigcorner.jpg
gsv

I thought this one story dates to 1931 as well, but your photograph shows a parking lot.
If this is a new structure (there's parking on the roof) they did a fine job.

They did a great job with the build-out, merging the new and old and improving on what they had to work with. If only this had been the rule rather than the exception. Beautiful building. I'm wondering what they did with the interior. I have a photo safari coming up in June. I'll stop by here.

MichaelRyerson Apr 11, 2013 9:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6087241)
I'm still mystified by the brick building in this shot. I'm gonna kick myself when I find out:

That's a corner of the old Bank of Italy building (hard by our beloved City Hall).


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