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pip May 18, 2022 8:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 9628353)
Why would you want to test yourself for Covid?

This summer Ill be travelling to Boston and going through crowded airports and planes. I will test to make sure I don't have COVID when I visit my parents not out of concern for myself but for my parents. Yes they have been vaccinated but they are in ill health and elderly, they can't get COVID.

But you know there are reasons and valid reasons to get tested, people have different situations, different health issues, and different personalities regardless. So why ask?

the urban politician May 18, 2022 8:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pip (Post 9628373)
But you know there are reasons and valid reasons to get tested, people have different situations, different health issues, and different personalities regardless. So why ask?

Normally I'd agree with you, but a small number of paranoid germaphobes have decided to make their fear about COVID everybody's business, and it's been going on for years now, even after an effective vaccine.

So yes, he and anybody else are within their right to wonder why healthy, vaccinated people keep testing themselves over and over for a virus that is effectively the glorified common cold at this point.

You (not you personally--figure of speech) made it our business. So now we wanna know why the hell mostly healthy and vaccinated folks keep testing themselves all day long and bumping up the case numbers everywhere

twister244 May 18, 2022 8:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckeye Native 001 (Post 9628298)
I don't think its an either/or thing?

My employer (both my department and the larger agency as a whole) is mostly on a hybrid system: Come to the office if/when you need to, but telecommute otherwise. Hell, my department downsized and moved to a smaller building last year to account for the increase in WFH.

Yep - I agree here.

I think for people that have an office to go to, and enjoy going in a few times a week, will go.

I still maintain my hypothesis that companies like WeWork stand to benefit in the long run from this. Give your employees a membership, and they just come into collaborate when they need. Instead of leasing an entire floor plate, you just rent conference rooms or offices when you need them.

TWAK May 18, 2022 8:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pip (Post 9628373)
This summer Ill be travelling to Boston and going through crowded airports and planes. I will test to make sure I don't have COVID when I visit my parents not out of concern for myself but for my parents. Yes they have been vaccinated but they are in ill health and elderly, they can't get COVID.

But you know there are reasons and valid reasons to get tested, people have different situations, different health issues, and different personalities regardless. So why ask?

They don't like the restrictions...
It's the same folks over and over whining about other people getting tests or wearing a mask.

pip May 18, 2022 8:29 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 9628377)
Normally I'd agree with you, but a small number of paranoid germaphobes have decided to make their fear about COVID everybody's business, and it's been going on for years now, even after an effective vaccine.

So yes, he and anybody else are within their right to wonder why healthy, vaccinated people keep testing themselves over and over for a virus that is effectively the glorified common cold at this point.

You (not you personally--figure of speech) made it our business. So now we wanna know why the hell mostly healthy and vaccinated folks keep testing themselves all day long and bumping up the case numbers everywhere

Whether people want to get tested is their business. Mind your own business and enjoy your own life. Like the mask debate, about 10+ people here will argue about this forever and ever. It's weird.

10023 May 18, 2022 8:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pip (Post 9628373)
This summer Ill be travelling to Boston and going through crowded airports and planes. I will test to make sure I don't have COVID when I visit my parents not out of concern for myself but for my parents. Yes they have been vaccinated but they are in ill health and elderly, they can't get COVID.

But you know there are reasons and valid reasons to get tested, people have different situations, different health issues, and different personalities regardless. So why ask?

It’s very unlikely that with an asymptomatic infection you would be shedding enough virus to endanger even your elderly parents. Viruses trigger things like coughing and sneezing for a reason - evolution has selected for this as a mechanism to spread themselves.

pip May 18, 2022 8:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 9628394)
It’s very unlikely that with an asymptomatic infection you would be shedding enough virus to endanger even your elderly parents. Viruses trigger things like coughing and sneezing for a reason - evolution has selected for this as a mechanism to spread themselves.

I could see this argument if the loss were a toaster oven.

And also with people so fanatical against testing or anything COVID I am most certainly not going to take their medical advice

the urban politician May 18, 2022 9:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pip (Post 9628398)
I could see this argument if the loss were a toaster oven.

And also with people so fanatical against testing or anything COVID I am most certainly not going to take their medical advice

Yeah, go show em, be a rebel and test yourself for Covid! :cool:

the urban politician May 18, 2022 9:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pip (Post 9628386)
Whether people want to get tested is their business. Mind your own business and enjoy your own life. Like the mask debate, about 10+ people here will argue about this forever and ever. It's weird.

I am totally cool with that, but then using this logic:

No mask mandates anywhere public--it's MY business
No vaccination mandates--it's MY business

Let people decide what to do, and hope that they follow the most medically sound advice.

chris08876 May 18, 2022 9:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 9628353)
Why would you want to test yourself for Covid?

Just to have them at hand. I have a very big basement so they can be stored there so when the plague causes these things to jump to $20 a piece, I can save money that way. Hey!... ya never know. Get it now while its free.

Plus if I have a sniffle, quick test... badabing badaboom, if positive, I get 5 days off work paid. So no complaints. Even if no symptoms or feeling fine, but still positive, 5 days off sounds nice. They don't need to know.

the urban politician May 18, 2022 9:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 9628428)
Just to have them at hand. I have a very big basement so they can be stored there so when the plague causes these things to jump to $20 a piece, I can save money that way. Hey!... ya never know. Get it now while its free.

Plus if I have a sniffle, quick test... badabing badaboom, if positive, I get 5 days off work paid. So no complaints. Even if no symptoms or feeling fine, but still positive, 5 days off sounds nice. They don't need to know.

Yeah, that's not how it works for me. If I test positive (which I never will because I don't test myself for foolish colds that I'm going to recover from) I don't get 5 "paid" days off. I get paid based on volume of work, not by day, so I would simply be losing income.

Of course, I follow common sense and stay home when I'm sick anyhow (remember when we used to do that?) so it's never been an issue--and it never will be.

the urban politician May 18, 2022 10:29 PM

wrong thread

chris08876 May 18, 2022 11:52 PM

Memorial Day weekend is coming up. Should skyrocket with that BA.2.12.1.

https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/busin...d16268a9a.jpeg

pip May 19, 2022 3:04 AM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 9628423)
Yeah, go show em, be a rebel and test yourself for Covid! :cool:


Does it really piss you off that much I'm making sure I don't transmit COVID to my parents? Come on how is this even a human trait to make fun of people that want to protect their parents?

10023 May 19, 2022 8:26 AM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 9628439)
Yeah, that's not how it works for me. If I test positive (which I never will because I don't test myself for foolish colds that I'm going to recover from) I don't get 5 "paid" days off. I get paid based on volume of work, not by day, so I would simply be losing income.

Of course, I follow common sense and stay home when I'm sick anyhow (remember when we used to do that?) so it's never been an issue--and it never will be.

Unfortunately a big part of the acceptance of lockdowns/isolation is that a large segment of society thinks “cool, I can get paid to sit at home and watch TV”.

There was a funny meme that came out when the British government, in order to encourage people to get tested, offered them £300 (or something like that) for a positive test. The idea was allay fear of losing income, but the perverse incentives were obvious:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsV9TVdXIAEC8je.jpg


(it’s based on the “Stay Home, Protect the NHS, Save Lives” slogan that they had)

10023 May 19, 2022 8:30 AM

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Originally Posted by pip (Post 9628653)
Does it really piss you off that much I'm making sure I don't transmit COVID to my parents? Come on how is this even a human trait to make fun of people that want to protect their parents?

I did the same whenever I visited my mother in 2020. But that was before vaccines when it was really a pandemic.

The question I will always ask is, at what point do you intend to stop doing this? And note that “when there’s no Covid anymore” is not an acceptable answer (in this case the answer is actually “never”).

The dead horse that I keep beating is not about people’s individual risk tolerances. People can take whatever precautions they want, as long as they don’t expect others to change their behavior like a certain forumer. But the fact is that we are “there” with Covid, wherever there is, and that’s an objective point that we can debate rather than a personal choice that there is no point in debating.

the urban politician May 19, 2022 11:46 AM

Yeah, not enough people around here are taking the long view. I figured it would be pretty obvious to people that there is potentially no end in sight to this paranoid behavior. But then, most people don’t really think things through.

the urban politician May 19, 2022 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pip (Post 9628653)
Does it really piss you off that much I'm making sure I don't transmit COVID to my parents? Come on how is this even a human trait to make fun of people that want to protect their parents?

No, I don’t care what you do, I just demand that your fears be your fears.

I’m fed up with policy makers trying to turn your fears into my headaches.

iheartthed May 19, 2022 1:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 9628751)
I did the same whenever I visited my mother in 2020. But that was before vaccines when it was really a pandemic.

The question I will always ask is, at what point do you intend to stop doing this? And note that “when there’s no Covid anymore” is not an acceptable answer (in this case the answer is actually “never”).

The dead horse that I keep beating is not about people’s individual risk tolerances. People can take whatever precautions they want, as long as they don’t expect others to change their behavior like a certain forumer. But the fact is that we are “there” with Covid, wherever there is, and that’s an objective point that we can debate rather than a personal choice that there is no point in debating.

You're asking the wrong question. The question you should be asking is why isn't it as easy to test yourself for other contagious viruses as it is to test yourself for COVID? If I had a quick and easy way to test myself for the flu or common cold virus before I went and infected a bunch of other people, I would do that.

10023 May 19, 2022 9:31 PM

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Originally Posted by iheartthed (Post 9628864)
You're asking the wrong question. The question you should be asking is why isn't it as easy to test yourself for other contagious viruses as it is to test yourself for COVID? If I had a quick and easy way to test myself for the flu or common cold virus before I went and infected a bunch of other people, I would do that.

This would cost money (regardless of whether it was out of pocket, or part of your tax burden or insurance premium), and that cost would be unjustified and wasteful.

We actually don’t need to know whether people are asymptomatic carriers of mild diseases, and the whole testing program is at this point simply a profit driver for diagnostics providers.


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