I noticed that too. Very strange.

Could be a testing difference...

Is there a ICU intake rate of the same magnitude along those county lines as well? If that were true, then that would be quite a study to undertake as to why that happened.

38,000 deaths a year (on average) from car accidents in the US.

Over 500,000 deaths from Covid after one year of COVID.

Funny enough, yes I do worry about getting into an accident every time I drive. I’m a pretty paranoid person.

Aren’t you in your mid thirties by now? I hate to break it to you bud, but your next ten years are going to be...

Disappointing.

Not to mention that there are number of other diseases besides cancer that are caused or exacerbated by second-hand smoke: https://www.lung.org/research/sotc/b...condhand-smoke

this is insane. even if YOU might not die from contracting COVID, the more that it spreads the more likely it is that you'll pass it along to somebody who WILL die from it. and even if you don't die, a substantial number of young people who contracted it have had long term health problems, including respiratory and pulmonary problems and mental illness and cognitive dysfunction due to COVID-induced brain swelling.

it's really sad how fucking stupid and selfish about half of Americans are.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but I am in incredible shape. But yes, I do think that my next 5-10 years are the ones that I am living for and beyond that my quality of life will decline precipitously.

You have to look at population. The colors are based on cases/100,000. In a very lightly populated county, one or two cases can literally cause them to stand out whereas the county next door may not have any cases or just 1 vs 2 and if it's also lightly populated will have a very different rate/100,000.

For this reason, I don't take this map very seriously in rural regions . . . only in urban areas and cities. So, for example, I think it matters that San Francisco has 4/100,000 whereas Detroit (Wayne County) has 83/100,000.

If you go to the actual link and hover over the county, it shows you the actual number of cases (from which you can calculate population if you want to). But consider that San Francisco and Jefferson County, Arkansas have a similar rate of cases per 100,000 but that means 2.7 average daily cases in Jefferson County but 38 in San Francisco. If Jefferson had one less or one more cases per day, their rate/100,000 would be drastically different. That can certainly happen.

Oh, Lord. If I had a nickel for every person I've seen who unexpectedly had an acute cardiovascular episode or came down with some other serious disease out of the blue when "in incredible shape" I'd be really rich. And similarly, plenty of people find their 50s and 60s the most enjoyable times of their lives. Sometimes even later decades.

You are the least empathetic person I have ever heard speak, I believe. Sh*t happens, man, and predicting the future is for fools. Enjoy life now but don't count on it lasting or meaning anything about how your health will be 10 or 20 years from now. All you can do is try to be healthy and it may work or it may not.

If you're in your mid 30's, that means I have at least 10 years on you and my quality of life is certainly no worse than it was in my 20's or 30's...except I go to bed at a more reasonable hour. No reason if you're healthy now, take care of yourself and have the genetics that you shouldn't have another 25-30 years of good quality of life.

I think my 50s and 60s were my best 2 decades by far. I didn't have to work, was healthy and financially comfortable. It was good times.

My work was interesting and challenging but frankly I love getting up in the morning knowing I can do anything I want all day long (including staying in bed as late as I want). And having the time to travel anywhere, anytime although I pretty much got traveling out of my system during my working years.

More evidence that it's a tragedy the monoclonal antibody "cocktails" aren't being used more. With these drugs and the vaccine, it should be rare to end up like those early patients in an ICU on a ventilator. It should be uncommon to even need hospitalization.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-1...d=hp_lead_pos2

The difference in cases/100k between SF & Detroit highlights the importance of masks and social distancing even more than the vaccine. Presumably many Detroiters like San Franciscans have been vaccinated, but such a stark difference means masking in public is just as important.

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What’s your point about masks? You think people in Detroit aren’t wearing masks? I assure you they are, I was just there a couple of weeks ago. If anything it shows that masks are largely pointless. Otherwise in the whole country, cities would have less cases per 100k as everyone in cities are made to wear masks, while in small towns outside of cities, lot of people don’t wear masks when inside businesses.

^ Actually, the overwhelming majority of young people have had nothing of the sort. This is just selection bias.

Reality is, most of our major viral upper respiratory illnesses that folks likely never paid attention to caused chronic disease in a small subset of people, it's just that everybody is now tuned into COVID and attribute to it characteristics that many incorrectly believe are unique, I'm guessing because most average people are hearing about these things for the first time.

There is no disease out there in recent memory that gets a daily case & tally, daily headline news, daily reports of every single side effect and death, daily updates on this, that, and the other thing. If you did that with other communicable diseases prior to March 2020 you probably would've been scared shitless to leave your home.

Now, I'm not downplaying how deadly this disease is/was. But we need to focus on WHAT made this deadly, and to not give COVID mysterious & magical powers. It was deadly because 1) it's HIGHLY contagious, and 2) it is particularly lethal to the elderly and people with health conditions. That's it. There is really nothing else unusual or peculiar about this virus.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/recent-...=hp_lead_pos13

Presumaby even 30-somethings who believe themselves extremely healthy are potentially at risk if they engage in risky behavior and aten’t vaccinated.

I'm almost certain that San Francisco has a higher vaccination rate than Detroit. SF County has an overall vaccination rate of 30% vs 18% in Wayne County, MI. The vax rate for the city of Detroit might even be below the county's, particularly for the under 65 population. The current outbreak in MI is skewed much younger than the previous waves.

I doubt there is much difference in mask usage in Detroit and SF. I think it has more to do with what MI has allowed to reopen/resume, particularly in the past two months. Indoor high school sports is believed to have been a major source of spread in MI, for instance.

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Down here in Brazil, for the first time since the beginning of the pandemics, people below 40 y/o are now over 50% of the patients on ICUs.

That's big deal, specially as the second wave is much bigger than the first one, with a 7 day-moving average of 3,100 deaths as yesterday, and above 1,000 for the past 85 days as opposed a 1,000 7 day-moving average of the first wave, that lasted "only" 32 days.