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mrnyc Aug 12, 2024 11:14 PM

its a terrible problem — much, much worse since covid free ride days — like i said and for example, no one in staten pays



Why the MTA’s bus drivers don’t enforce the fare

By Ramsey Khalifeh
Published Aug 9, 2024


The MTA is struggling to get New Yorkers to pay to ride the bus, in no small part because drivers don’t enforce the fare.

But for decades, that was a key part of a bus driver’s job.

“When I was a kid, the bus wouldn’t run if you stood there and said, ‘I’m not paying.’ [Either] the bus driver wasn’t going to run the bus or you would have to get off,” MTA Chair Janno Lieber said during last week’s MTA board meeting, recalling growing up on the Upper West Side in the 1970s.

But in 2008, Brooklyn bus driver Edwin Thomas was stabbed to death after telling a passenger he needed to pay to ride. And the union representing bus drivers subsequently succeeded in implementing a softer approach toward fare beaters.

“I will not let my operators get involved in fare disputes because that’s not our job,” said J.P. Patafio, head of buses at Transport Workers Union Local 100. “Our job is to drive the bus safely from point A to point B, and getting into arguments about the fare has historically led to an increase in assaults.”

Lieber last week said “too many [bus drivers] have been subject to violence,” and that asking them to enforce the fare would put them in danger.

New York City Transit’s rule book shows fare collection is part of a bus driver’s duties. But Patafio said in practice drivers are only asked to state the cost of the fare, and make a record every time someone doesn’t pay.

Meanwhile, MTA stats show fare beating has spiked dramatically – particularly since the pandemic.


more:
https://gothamist.com/news/why-the-m...force-the-fare

mrnyc Aug 13, 2024 12:54 PM

robert moses explains his current plans — :haha:


https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-KOf...xyZjV4bGFyaA==

mrnyc Aug 15, 2024 1:02 AM

mta bus drivers — :haha:


https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-VCH...Fmb3hoNmlwbXl5

mrnyc Aug 18, 2024 1:11 PM

fearlessly incredible — sixth avenue subway construction 1927 :tup:


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fa/a3...7e5f246a82.jpg

Busy Bee Aug 18, 2024 3:21 PM

That's when they had balls.

Now cowering politicians constantly kowtow to the squeakiest "stakeholder" wheel which means major surface disruptions are avoided at nearly all costs even though that is often the best and most economically way of building underground transit. Don't even get me going.

Busy Bee Aug 18, 2024 3:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 10264933)

These are pretty damn good, and pretty damn sad.

Busy Bee Aug 18, 2024 3:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 10263770)
robert moses explains his current plans — :haha:


https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-KOf...xyZjV4bGFyaA==


I'm gonna have to admit, I don't get like half the references.

Can someone cooler younger than me break this down?

streetscaper Aug 18, 2024 3:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 10266959)
That's when they had balls.

Now cowering politicians constantly kowtow to the squeakiest "stakeholder" wheel which means major surface disruptions are avoided at nearly all costs even though that is often the best and most economically way of building underground transit. Don't even get me going.


lol yeah true, I'd bet it'd be cheaper to shut businesses down for 2 years and pay each 1.5x their lost revenue than the way it's done so painstakingly slowly now. You'd greatly save on time and efficiency of the operation.

(if you intelligently capitilized on the advantage which.. who knows with the MTA)

mrnyc Aug 18, 2024 5:38 PM

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Originally Posted by streetscaper (Post 10266968)
lol yeah true, I'd bet it'd be cheaper to shut businesses down for 2 years and pay each 1.5x their lost revenue than the way it's done so painstakingly slowly now. You'd greatly save on time and efficiency of the operation.

(if you intelligently capitilized on the advantage which.. who knows with the MTA)

we can’t even get a simple trolley across brooklyn-queens in a gift wrapped sunken rail line, much less pay people to dig up around them. ugh. :shrug:

mrnyc Aug 19, 2024 1:39 PM

this is via nys sen. hoylman newsletter —


Electrifying MTA Buses

I joined the MTA, Assembly Member Rosenthal, City Planning Commissioner Garodnick and other government colleagues on a tour of the Michael J. Quill Bus Depot and the electric charging station in the Hudson River Park to discuss efforts to transition to a zero-emissions bus fleet by 2040. The MTA fleet consists of 15 electric buses, with 60 new buses on the way. Nearly 500 new buses are scheduled to enter service by 2026, but unfortunately, the recent “pause” of congestion pricing imperils the MTA’s ability to secure orders for nearly half of this total. In addition, timely orders are complicated by there being only one manufacturer currently producing electric buses in the U.S. to the MTA’s standards. This is yet another important reason why congestion pricing must proceed as soon as possible.

k1052 Aug 19, 2024 2:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 10267003)
we can’t even get a simple trolley across brooklyn-queens in a gift wrapped sunken rail line, much less pay people to dig up around them. ugh. :shrug:

MTA doesn't even want to move a few dead people to avoid what will likely be an operationally crippling street running segment lol.

jmecklenborg Aug 19, 2024 2:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 10266921)
fearlessly incredible — sixth avenue subway construction 1927 :tup:


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fa/a3...7e5f246a82.jpg


It looks like this section of subway construction was part of a simultaneous street widening project. So comparing what we're looking at here to cut-and-cover construction beneath grid avenues isn't useful. Also, there are so many existing subway tunnels and tunnels of other types in Manhattan that there isn't much potential for cut-and-cover construction.

Busy Bee Aug 19, 2024 4:10 PM

On closer inspection, this image looks like it's from the original section of the Sixth Av Extension which went from Carmine St in the village to Canal. This was a completely new street cut through the existing neighborhood, not just a widening. It displaced around 10,000 people and dozens of building demolitions to accomplish. The second phase of the Sixth Av Extension ran from Canal to Church. IND construction of the 8 Av line was simultaneously carried out.

A good source of info on the 6 Av Extension: https://www.villagepreservation.org/...-before-after/

202_Cyclist Aug 19, 2024 8:26 PM

A ferry from New Rochelle and the Bronx to LaGuardia would be great.

High Speed Ferries: Could It Be The Solution To JFK And LaGuardia's Public Transportation Problem?

By Alexander Mitchell
Simple Flying
Aug. 17, 2024


"Few airports are as important in the United States as LaGuardia Airport (LGA) and John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFK), the only two facilities officially located within New York City. These airports handle millions of annual passengers, each serving a uniquely important purpose, with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey reporting a record 65 million passengers across the two facilities in 2023.

LaGuardia is only connected to New York via a few bus routes, and it does not offer convenient access to Manhattan’s major business districts and residential areas. JFK also lacks an easy transportation option, and like LGA, does not offer a dedicated station on the New York Subway, again requiring most to undertake multiple transfers between forms of mass transit to get to their final destination..."

https://simpleflying.com/high-speed-...tion-solution/

mrnyc Aug 23, 2024 2:21 PM

^ there used to be ferries to the lga marine air terminal —



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huge accessability project finishes up —




Construction finished on three new elevators at 14th Street subway complex

By Ben Brachfeld
Posted on August 22, 2024


The MTA has completed construction on new elevators at the subway complex on 14th Street and 6th Avenue in Manhattan, which serves the F, M, and L lines with a connection to the 1, 2, and 3.

The transit agency cut the ribbon Thursday on three new elevators as part of a massive $300 million overhaul at the busy station complex. The new elevators connect the street level to the station’s mezzanine, while two additional elevators connect the mezzanine to the uptown F/M platform and to the L platform; more are in construction to connect to the downtown F/M platform and the 1/2/3 platform at 7th Avenue.


more:
https://www.amny.com/transit/constru...ubway-complex/

https://www.amny.com/wp-content/uplo...esize=1200,900
One of the brand new elevators at the subway station on 14th Street and 6th Avenue in Manhattan. MTA

mrnyc Aug 23, 2024 2:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k1052 (Post 10267299)
MTA doesn't even want to move a few dead people to avoid what will likely be an operationally crippling street running segment lol.

yes — including dead people! :haha:



Quote:

Originally Posted by jmecklenborg (Post 10267305)
It looks like this section of subway construction was part of a simultaneous street widening project. So comparing what we're looking at here to cut-and-cover construction beneath grid avenues isn't useful. Also, there are so many existing subway tunnels and tunnels of other types in Manhattan that there isn't much potential for cut-and-cover construction.

clearly based on the photo it was done. :shrug:

ardecila Aug 23, 2024 4:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k1052 (Post 10267299)
MTA doesn't even want to move a few dead people to avoid what will likely be an operationally crippling street running segment lol.

They don't even need to move any bodies, if they are doing light-rail they can just cross through the cemetery at grade. Build a few hundred feet of grass track and call it a day. You just need to rework some of the roads in the cemetery.

chris08876 Aug 24, 2024 6:20 PM

NYC has a new plan to fix an ailing BQE section. Construction won’t begin until 2029

Quote:

New York City transportation officials on Thursday unveiled a new vision to fix a defective section of the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway — and said they plan to push back the long-planned rebuild until at least 2029.

The latest plan by the Department of Transportation to overhaul the highway’s triple-cantilever structure tucked beneath the Brooklyn Heights Promenade would stack traffic lanes directly on top of each other. It’s one of three recent proposals released by the department. The others include an option to hide the roadway by extending Brooklyn Bridge Park to the east.

The construction outline released on Thursday would be 20% wider than the current roadway, which city officials said is required by federal standards. But officials did not immediately explain how they’d complete the project without disrupting traffic or closing the promenade above.
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https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-has-a...gin-until-2029

mrnyc Aug 27, 2024 3:28 AM

rebuilding steps to the subway — :tup:


https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7zju...hiM3cydmhmYnY5

mrnyc Aug 27, 2024 3:36 AM

the plot thickens —



Congestion Pricing | New York lawmakers tell court Hochul has no authority to pause Manhattan toll

By Ben Brachfeld
Posted on August 26, 2024


Gov. Kathy Hochul legally has no authority under New York law to pause congestion pricing, a group of current and former New York lawmakers argued last week to a judge overseeing cases seeking to restart the waylaid Manhattan tolling program.


more:
https://www.amny.com/transit/congest...an-toll-pause/


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