The connector is supposed to be at least partly underground too, right? So wouldn't the cost concerns over tunneling apply as well?
I agree that through routing for commuter trains is probably not practical at current US tunneling costs, but four through tracks can be provided at Union Station without any tunnels and without tearing anything down, and if tunneling costs were in line with Europe, then a single new four track bored tunnel (I propose Millennium Station-Streeterville-Chicago) might be possible. |
As the Connector team has gotten more into the details, they're now talking about nearly a mile of tunneling to get through Streeterville.
The Connector project is a rather strange hybrid that can't decide if it's about line-haul, distribution, or making areas like Finkl Steel and Riverside Park more developable. Most of the steering committee is development folks who don't think real critically about the various rôles public transit plays, and what justifies public financing of it. They don't really get the difference between streetcar and light rail, between AGT and CTA heavy rail. The white paper talks a lot about capacity limits of CTA on the North Side, but the proposed solution won't short-turn any trainsets or lengthen a single platform. Instead, it's about serving developable land in the center-city-periphery from Streeterville to Pilsen to McCormick Square, and incidentally being somewhat useful to Metra riders. |
IL: Study Says CTA Could Sell Some Linden Parking Space for Retail, Residential Development
KATHY ROUTLIFFE ON DEC 23, 2016 SOURCE: MCCLATCHY Dec. 23--Chicago Transit Authority officials say they are reviewing the findings of a study that says the agency could net at least $2 million -- and ultimately the possibility of a residentially denser, more transit-friendly Wilmette neighborhood -- by selling some of its Purple Line station parking lot property. The study, by graduate students in the Transit Oriented Development studio program at the University of Illinois at Chicago's Urban Transportation Center, recommends that CTA officials actively seek developers who could build a multi-story retail-residential project near the intersection of 4th Street and Linden Avenue. Bringing new residents into the area known as Linden Square could revive its currently depressed retail scene by making the business district more attractive to new retail, study authors said. Those new residents could also provide new Purple Line ridership, which could more than make up for riders who might be lost by cutting parking lot size, they said. The Purple Line has the lowest average weekly ridership of the CTA's seven end-of-line stations, with only 1,125 riders, compared to the Red Line's Howard Station ridership of 7,912, according to the study. Students estimated that the CTA could sell 40 percent of the parking it has on its 5.4-acre Linden property for between $2.6 million and $3.5 million. It could sell half of its parking area for between $3.3 million and $4.4 million, the study team stated. Selling either amount of land would still leave the station with enough parking to handle most, if not all, of its needs, the study authors said, because the lots are underused. The study cited 2014 and 2015 parking data to reach that conclusion. According to the study, average monthly parking didn't exceed 50 percent in 2014, and in 2015 it only exceeded 50 percent between July and September, when ridership peaked during the Chicago Cubs baseball season. That year, monthly parking use was as low as 20 percent in January, according to the study. Pin-Jung Ho, one of the study's authors, said Dec. 13 that her team was surprised at the seasonal ridership swings they found. Although daily commuters normally comprise about 80 percent of total Purple Line ridership, that changed in the summer, when people headed to Chicago for Cubs games, she said. Ho's three-person team, which also worked with village officials, estimated the development value of the CTA land at $56 per square foot, compared to the development value of more than $79 per square foot the team estimated for the mixed-use development now underway at 611 Green Bay Road in downtown Wilmette. The study recommended that any developer interested in a Linden Square project could expect to take roughly nine months to navigate Wilmette's zoning process, including potentially winning permits for a four-story project instead of the three-story limit of the district's current zoning before completing a land purchase. Winning the height bonuses could increase the sale price the CTA could command, study authors said. Copyright 2016 - Pioneer Press Newspapers, Suburban Chicago |
^ Nice find.
I really hope that these seeds of TOD will blossom into something in our region that will finally get us up to par with other cities in the world (particularly our Canadian neighbors to the north) in making better use of our transit resources |
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Personally, I think Crossrail + Connector + connection between blue line and union station would totally transform Chicago transit for the better. |
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The Connector, by serving some existing dense areas (River North, South Loop) and linking into new developable lands along the river, can at least generate its own dense, transit-oriented urbanism without running into confrontations with pesky neighbors over height, shadows and traffic. |
Connector just another attempt to polish a turd.
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The pro/cons in the back section is complete load of claptrap because they haven't defined what the actual cross section of what a corridor should look like to minimize costs and have an effective design, because that is usually the basis for your cost and financing model. The Vancouver Canada Line built as a light metro P3 approach and it has already reached the design limits of the line in a short time frame because of the dismally short 130' platform lengths yet, no mention of that constraint in their pros/cons. If this is a real transportation solution to relieve Northside overcrowding shouldn't the Northern branch be constructed first to give immediate relief to the Brown/Purple Line segments and not the segment to River North/Streeterville? There is not barely a mention of the role Metra could play a role with this and as I read this the more I think the Gray Line proposal should link up with this to actually make a feasible project that can get off the ground quickly and possibly even go to the voters for a sales tax in Cook County along with other capital operational and core capacity improvements to the CTA system. |
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If there is a cost over run in this project, who picks up the tab? City of Chicago? CTA? RTA? This CCAC? |
^ Not sure I understand the hate for the 1968 plan. As much as I'm sentimental about the Loop L, I think we would have a much stronger transit system today if the 1968 plan had been built in its entirety. Far better connections between lines downtown (including Metra), underground/sheltered platforms for all lines, grade-separated junctions allowing higher capacity, etc.
The plan was also pretty prescient and saw the future need for transit to Streeterville, western River North, West Loop, South Loop etc... all the areas that are held back today because they don't have efficient transit connections. |
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It's not the plan but the messaging and execution of that plan. This is also the reason if they need to get Federal Funding or other state funding sources to fund portions of infrastructure that coalition will need to take place to make it happen. |
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The Connector is still in much too early a study stage to discuss who'll pick up cost overruns. CCAC is still trying to figure out what to propose, and which players to try to bring in as allies. If they want FTA money they'll need one of the transit agencies, for political cover (elites proposing yet another project for downtown rather than the 'hoods!) they may want allies in various minority communities. Because it's Chicago, obviously they'll need the mayor's office to nod approval.
CCAC was much buoyed when the General Assembly approved the Transit TIF law, and hope a similar district can be set up for their new toy. To me, that seems like the only way it can be politically feasible: if downtown developers pay for the gadgetbahn that will make them lots and lots of money by allowing dense development on former industrial sites. |
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Also the local match is only 50% of the project to which they assume need a 50% to come from the FTA which requires automatically an alliance with CTA/City Aldermen/Congressional Leaders. Even strategies of value capture through possibly reducing parking requirements of the development to create an in-kind contribution to the cost of parking structure or parking spaces to the development for a station box for this structure should be something addressed in the white paper as it is conceptual. Quote:
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^ Core Capacity is intended for refurbishment and capacity improvements of existing, overtaxed rail lines, which limits its usefulness to only a handful of US cities (Chicago, NY, DC, Boston). As the law is currently written, it can't be used for a new transit line or extension.
Assuming no major changes to how transit projects are authorized by USDOT, this project would compete for New Starts funding like the rest of the country. In theory, this project's ridership should be competitive based on the sheer density of the areas it serves and the need for downtown distribution, but its overall competitiveness will depend on its cost as well. Side note: Uber and Lyft now have amassed a wealth of data on origins and destinations in our major cities. Their customers skew more wealthy/middle class, but I wonder if their data could be used to suggest possible new transit lines (or bolster the case for lines like the Connector)? They wouldn't just give up that data for free but maybe the city could use airport access and taxes as bargaining chips. |
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Also, all hail the Loop elevated, it is our Eiffel Tower. An Eiffel Tower that is actually useful and makes insane shrieking noises at all hours of the day. There is nothing wrong with that! |
Finally. I wonder if they tackle the middle track or the eastern track now. It's been a mystery to me how they will finally start tearing down the old viaducts while leaving 1 active inbound track undisrupted.
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Chicago transit in 2017 By Mary Wisniewski |
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DC Metro was built, NY built a bunch of new tunnel connections, etc. Boston moved pretty much all of its elevated lines underground. |
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