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Originally Posted by Hudson11 (Post 8300511)

came across this old aerial photo of midtown. A nice historical parallel.

Yes! I've always thought that Hudson Yards is like our era's Rockefeller Center.

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 8320872)

That crane is insane. A true marvel of engineering. Rental for a crane of that size is $40,000 for one day. Just to extend the boom, I'm told it eats up 5% of its fuel.

It's a skyscraper in itself.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BoOxfgDn...en-by=cbre_aip

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We took a peek into the construction site for Tishman Speyer’s The Spiral 🔨 🚧 about to go up at #HudsonYards (that’s 55 Hudson Yards on the left). Designed by Bjarke Ingels, the building will feature interconnected cascading terraces and hanging gardens. Expected completion is 2022 but space is leasing now – Pfizer already secured 18 floors as its anchor tenant.

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Shouldn't this be moved out of the Proposals thread?

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Originally Posted by tdawg (Post 8330955)

Shouldn't this be moved out of the Proposals thread?

It's moving soon, this we know. But I haven't seen anything going in yet, as opposed to dirt and rocks coming out. Just a matter of time.

Two more super talls to add to the collection. :cheers:

Similar impact as 35 Hudson to the overall cityscape (massing wise). I do believe these are bulkier though.

Interesting piece, as both 15 Penn and 2 WTC sit in standby mode...

http://rew-online.com/how-big-busine...an-build-them/

How big business is leasing up new office towers faster than New York can build them

by Kyle Campbell
October 10, 2018

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With more than 9.5 million s/f of new office space due to open in Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens by year’s end, New York is the second-fastest growing commercial market in the country, behind only the Bay Area, which boasts more than 11 million new square feet this year, according to report by Commercial Café.

Several more massive towers are expected to rise above the city in the coming years, many of them built on speculation, without a lineup of tenants.

This raises the question of whether the market can absorb all this new space but, so far, the answer seems to be a resounding yes.

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“In a market of 400 million s/f, it’s not that much and it’s actually product that’s much needed,” said Evan Haskell, an executive in CBRE’s Agency Group. “The average age of an office building in New York City is 70 years so new product is something the market has really needed and the stats tell us that the market was hungry for it.”

So far this year, almost three-quarters of leases greater 100,000 s/f have gone to new construction, Haskell said, adding that last year the rate was more than 80 percent.

Already this year, the city has seen the largest new office building in the country open its doors, the 2.8 million s/f 3 World Trade Center. Before the New Year, 55 Hudson Yards and Dock 72 in the Brooklyn Navy Yard are expected to add nearly two million more square feet.

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By 2020, Haskell said, the industry expects to see 10.3 million s/f of new office space come online thanks to buildings such as One Manhattan West, One Vanderbilt and 30 Hudson Yards. Roughly 70 percent of that pipeline has already been leased.

“Clearly this market was waiting for this to happen and was drawn to this new product,” he said.

Further out, the city’s new commercial pool will swell to 23 million s/f by 2022, according to Avison Young’s senior director of research Marisha Clinton. Even large chunks of that space initially slated as speculative have since been spoken for.

Most notably, the pharmaceutical company Pfizer has leased 800,000 s/f in The Spiral, Tishman Speyer’s 2.8 million s/f tower at 66 Hudson Boulevard.
Clinton said large companies with deep pockets have led the charge into these new buildings but they’ve often triggered ripple effects.

“There are enough tenants that are not price-sensitive that have the ability to afford the higher prices in these new buildings,” she said.

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Much of the city’s new office space has been leased by New York companies looking to grow their footprints or modernize their work environments to meet current workforce trends. In addition to aesthetic improvements, such as wider column spaces, higher ceilings and larger windows, most new buildings feature functional improvements to HVAC and elevator systems to accommodate more densely populated offices.

...Marty Burger, CEO of Silverstein Properties, the owner of 3 World Trade Center, said he feels confident about the prospects of leasing up a new office tower in the current economic climate.

As of last week, the 80-story tower was 40 percent leased and Burger said he expects between 300,000 and 400,000 s/f of additional commitments to close in the coming week. He anticipates surpassing 90 percent occupancy within the next 24 months.

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Along with shifting business cultures and workforce growth, Burger said it’s crucial that New York continues to update its office stock to better compete with other global business hubs.

“For employees at these big multinational firms, when they go to their London office, their Sydney office or their Hong Kong office, they see these brand new, state-of-the-art office buildings and then they come to New York and see something that’s 50 years old,” he said. “Eighty percent of Hong Kong office space was built in the past 20 years, for London, it’s 50 percent. In New York, it’s seven.

“On a global basis, for New York to compete, we have to build new space.”

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 8341786)

Interesting piece, as both 15 Penn and 2 WTC sit in standby mode...

Along with 2 MW and 3 Hudson Boulevard.

This building is so cool :cheers:

I'm glad it has (sort of) started construction :shrug:

It would be nice if it were taller and to have a signature tower higher than 30HY but maybe Phase II will yield something of the sort?

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Originally Posted by ILNY (Post 8341822)

Along with 2 MW and 3 Hudson Boulevard.

Yes, though those towers are subject to spillover from the filling developments.

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Originally Posted by TK2001 (Post 8342114)

Source?

I took those from a pdf file downloaded from the website...

https://www.thespiralny.com/wp-conte.../Ebrochure.pdf

I really wish Tishman Speyer went at least 1,400 ft with this. I know the originally touted "Hudson Spire" was a placeholder and total vision, but had thought they wanted to make this the prominent focal point of the area. Now it's just one of several roughly 1,000 ft buildings, give or take. Then it would not only have its own character(I've warmed to the building somewhat) but prominence... still, a couple of years from now with 50 Hudson Yards, the Spiral, 3 Hudson Yards ,Manhattan West, with the possibility of the Frank Mc Court building(residential or mixed use) nearby, very nice fill in to the Midtown West area. And who knows if some other possibilities can still emerge as the currently planned towers go up and sell out.

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Originally Posted by citybooster (Post 8350756)

I really wish Tishman Speyer went at least 1,400 ft with this. I know the originally touted "Hudson Spire" was a placeholder and total vision, but had thought they wanted to make this the prominent focal point of the area. Now it's just one of several roughly 1,000 ft buildings, give or take. Then it would not only have its own character(I've warmed to the building somewhat) but prominence... still, a couple of years from now with 50 Hudson Yards, the Spiral, 3 Hudson Yards ,Manhattan West, with the possibility of the Frank Mc Court building(residential or mixed use) nearby, very nice fill in to the Midtown West area. And who knows if some other possibilities can still emerge as the currently planned towers go up and sell out.

Agreed, 1000 feet is okay but nothing special in NYC. I really like the design of the building though.

I believe there is a second phase to HY as well as other sites in midtown which could yield 1,400+ foot buildings.

Tishman is building to lease space, noto make a skyline icon. There are buildings in the city of this size that aren't even this height.

Great news that this joins the super tall section. We now have 11 threads where its 300m+. 12 if you count 2 WTC, which isn't going anywhere. :(

But nevertheless, good news.

Let this soak in, but prior to 2008 (before BOA was complete), NYC had just three super talls (NY Times, Chrysler, and ESB). Complete that is, as the Twins were not around at that time.

If we go to 2010, 4 supertalls with the completion of Bank of America.

Fast forward to 2014, with the completion of One57 and NY Times (which kinda cheats with its pencil spire, but nevertheless, at a respectable 1,046 ft.

4 years later.... 4 YEARS later, we have 11 super talls U/C, 1 on-hold.

In 4 years, we literally doubled the EXISTING count.

WHEN all is SET and DONE, there will be 24 super talls, assuming 80 South, 145 East 60th (if it becomes reality @ 1000-1200 ft), 247 Cherry, and 262 5th.

Can't forget JP Morgans future HQ. So 25! :cheers:

IF NYC was a country of its own, it would have more super talls than all other countries combined bar UAE and China.

The rate NYC is going, might eclipse Dubai in the near future.

A lot can happen 2018+, so the count might increase as there are several large assemblages at play.

But anyways, happy friday and :cheers:

:D:)

Also 9 towers from 900-980 ft complete or u/c and one proposal (520 5th). So 10 potentially in that range from this point. More bound to rise.

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