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ethereal_reality Feb 9, 2018 6:00 AM

more ephemera.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/nKHvbD.jpg


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/3ffQVY.jpg
ebay

Your straw hat is waiting for you at Busch's Cor. 2nd & Broadway, Los Angeles

ethereal_reality Feb 9, 2018 6:28 AM

Two amateur snapshots that show construction of the 101 near Melrose and Vermont.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/mVTkJN.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/2a28i8.jpg

seller's description: "1950 Building of a Highway Los Angeles Vermont & Melrose"

I don't recognize any of the buildings in the distance. (nor do I know if they were demolished or left intact)

Since you're all such pros I thought one of you might recognize one of the bldgs.





Here's a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/G6Vb16.jpg
left snapshot detail



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Bx1HhR.jpg
right snapshot detail


Left snapshot found HERE

Right snapshot found HERE


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ethereal_reality Feb 9, 2018 6:41 AM

This is from the same group of amateur photographs.

"1940's Downtown Los Angeles St from High Window Old Trucks Vintage Photo"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/gFbUB2.jpg
EBAY

Can anyone figure out what ledge the photographer is sitting on to achieve this vantage point? (I couldn't :shrug:)

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Beaudry Feb 9, 2018 8:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8079103)
This is from the same group of amateur photographs.

"1940's Downtown Los Angeles St from High Window Old Trucks Vintage Photo"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/gFbUB2.jpg
EBAY

Can anyone figure out what ledge the photographer is sitting on to achieve this vantage point? (I couldn't :shrug:)

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Seems like the photographer is in an upper window of the Jewelry Trades Bldg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4676/...82ae1ddf_z.jpg
at 5th and Bway, looking south

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4747/...ea173c8d_z.jpg

Here's a similar shot at LAPL also showing Reese's and Finks
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4675/...87bc4938_z.jpg

Looking the other way, about ten years earlier

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4674/...087057c0_b.jpg
usc

BillinGlendaleCA Feb 9, 2018 8:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis (Post 8077669)
That is a fascinating link, and I learned a great deal from it. Nevertheless, the nearly universal definition of "Protestant" is different from the historically-accurate one used at that link.

Dictionary.com defines "Protestant" as "any Western Christian who is not an adherent of a Catholic, Anglican, or Eastern Church." I submit that this is the common understanding of the term with most people.

Put in a way that Christians would view the matter, any religion that does not believe in transubstantiation is a Protestant religion. Baptists do not believe in transubstantiation; therefore, by this definition they are Protestant.

It may be an over-simplified, binary way of looking at the situation, but it is the operative one.

But as for me, I will never think of Baptists as Protestants again.

Having been raised in a Baptist church, we always considered ourselves Protestants.

odinthor Feb 9, 2018 2:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8079089)
more ephemera.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/nKHvbD.jpg


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/3ffQVY.jpg
ebay

Your straw hat is waiting for you at Busch's Cor. 2nd & Broadway, Los Angeles

Selections from the Los Angeles Times about the R.J. Busch Co., all via ProQuest via CSULB Library, re-sized for your viewing pleasure:

https://s26.postimg.org/dydar4c3t/Busch_A.jpg
Dates left to right, up to down: 7/1/1900, 4/21/1906, 6/10/1906, 6/28/1906.


https://s26.postimg.org/subtysv95/Busch_B.jpg
Dates left to right, up to down: 5/23/1911, 9/19/1912, 4/3/21.

Note that on e_r's interesting piece of ephemera, the addressee lives a mere block away from Busch's . . .

GaylordWilshire Feb 9, 2018 7:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5502438)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-h...2520AM.bmp.jpgLAPL


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics06/00012997.jpg
LAPL

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-S...iercegsv75.jpgGoogle Street View


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics06/00012996.jpgLAPL

Thelma Todd lying in state on December 19, 1935, at Pierce Brothers. The open gold casket was lined with orchid satin, and her hair was arranged in big blond curls the way she liked it, according to the LAPL



UPDATE


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/We...=w1346-h637-no


More here: http://urbanize.la/post/affordable-h...-dtla-mortuary


And some Pierce Bros history: http://articles.latimes.com/1998/sep/20/local/me-24693

odinthor Feb 9, 2018 10:16 PM

I like to get to know people.

Mr. R.J. Busch seemed like a person to get to know. I think you'll agree (all from Los Angeles Times via ProQuest via CSULB Library, dates as indicated):

https://s26.postimg.org/ysgx0vb89/BuschBitsA.jpg

https://s26.postimg.org/h2f8fv7y1/BusBitsB.jpg

https://s26.postimg.org/s20frhdsp/BusHom13a.jpg

https://s26.postimg.org/srj83um21/BusHom13b.jpg

But wait! There's more! . . .

odinthor Feb 9, 2018 10:22 PM

. . . Continuing (again, all from Los Angeles Times via ProQuest via CSULB Library, dates as indicated; as always, resized and re-formed to compact):

https://s26.postimg.org/wnwjztrm1/BusBitsC.jpg

The date of the following is 11/2/1952:

https://s26.postimg.org/m12qufebt/BusHo11-2-52A.jpg

https://s26.postimg.org/k99rzj2op/Bus11-2-52b.jpg

Andys Feb 9, 2018 10:42 PM

odinthor,

Do you have a current street address or coordinantes for the (rebuilt) R. J. Busch boulder crest house? Sorry if I missed it somewhere.

Thanks,
Andys

Lorendoc Feb 9, 2018 11:33 PM

mean street
 
Another noirish street scene from Calisphere labeled "View is looking south on Figueroa st Exposition Boulevard. The City's Streets have become a perilous No Man's Land of crime, due to curfew in effect 9 p.m., Saturday night. Photo dated: March 6, 1966." This was 7 months after the Watts riots. There was (and is) a 10 pm city curfew on persons under 18 years old unaccompanied by adults.

https://i.imgur.com/JVj3ECr.jpg
calisphere.org


I couldn't match Figueroa and Exposition to this picture, though. The only clear business name is "Figueroa Medical Offices" but the online city directories didn't have a listing.

https://i.imgur.com/o8bzgMA.jpg

Driving the Sanbornmobile up and down Figueroa eventually led to the corner of Fig and Santa Barbara:

https://i.imgur.com/ptmBF4f.jpg
lapl.org

sopas_ej posted a view of this intersection 7 years ago:

https://i.imgur.com/YjockA0.jpg
calisphere.org

This is captioned "Figueroa Street looking south to Santa Barbara Avenue (later Martin Luther King, Jr. Boulevard), with the Coliseum Hotel and National Automotive School on the left and the Figueroa Theater on the right." e_r probably would like a better view of those roof signs.

The Coliseum Hotel was built in 1927 by the Zobelein interests, the beer family often mentioned on this thread. It disappears from aerial photography around 1985. Today the hotel site is a mini-mall not worth posting.

HossC Feb 9, 2018 11:59 PM

:previous:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8080090)

... and the Figueroa Theater on the right." e_r probably would like a better view of those roof signs.

There's already a better view of the Figueroa Theatre on NLA, posted by e_r himself:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5489828)

below: A wonderful photograph of the Fox Figueroa Theater.

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8...gueroalapl.jpg
LAPL

In fact, the Calisphere photo appears among many others in a discussion of the intersection on page 265.

Lorendoc Feb 10, 2018 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8080123)
:previous:

In fact, the Calisphere photo appears among many others in a discussion of the intersection on page 265.

My memory (and search skills) doesn't go back very far it seems :) but I'll leave the post up because the first photo is worth revisiting and the Sanborn is new.

odinthor Feb 10, 2018 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys (Post 8080021)
odinthor,

Do you have a current street address or coordinantes for the (rebuilt) R. J. Busch boulder crest house? Sorry if I missed it somewhere.

Thanks,
Andys

Wish I did--sorry! :( Nothing seems to yield an address. The closest indication I've found is from the 1935 article, "The estate is just over the hill west of the La Vina Sanatarium and east of the Millard Canyon mouth." I bet one of our NLA wizards will come up with it!

Trucker Feb 10, 2018 1:55 AM

Photo Archive
 
Forgive me if this has been posted before..
This website has lots of photos...not hi res but interesting nonetheless.

Water and Power Associates

http://waterandpower.org/museum/Earl...+)_Page_1.html

Cheers,Pat

Slauson Slim Feb 10, 2018 2:54 AM

It is not The 101, it is The Hollywood Freeway.

Bristolian Feb 10, 2018 3:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8080090)
Another noirish street scene from Calisphere labeled "View is looking south on Figueroa st Exposition Boulevard. The City's Streets have become a perilous No Man's Land of crime, due to curfew in effect 9 p.m., Saturday night. Photo dated: March 6, 1966." This was 7 months after the Watts riots. There was (and is) a 10 pm city curfew on persons under 18 years old unaccompanied by adults.

https://i.imgur.com/JVj3ECr.jpg
calisphere.org


I couldn't match Figueroa and Exposition to this picture, though. The only clear business name is "Figueroa Medical Offices" but the online city directories didn't have a listing.

https://i.imgur.com/o8bzgMA.jpg


I remember the business on the ground floor of the building on the NE corner of Figueroa & MLK/Santa Barbara. It was Coliseum French Dip and it was there when I used to go to USC and Raider games in the '80s. I recently attempted to get some information or photos but came up empty so I was pleasantly surprised to see it here. The sign was pretty prolific and I had the impression it was a pretty popular place and thought more info wouldn't be too difficult to find. I guess CFD was no match for Philippe though.

CityBoyDoug Feb 10, 2018 3:15 AM

This is the 1956 Los Angeles Motorama...when cars were unique. Nothing quite like this in 2018. 'Golden Rocket', Oldsmobile dream car.

https://assets.hemmings.com/blog/wp-...6_07_10001.jpg
https://assets.hemmings.com/blog/wp-...6_07_10001.jpg

Lojack Feb 10, 2018 4:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys (Post 8080021)
odinthor,

Do you have a current street address or coordinantes for the (rebuilt) R. J. Busch boulder crest house? Sorry if I missed it somewhere.

Thanks,
Andys

The last page of the article mentioned the new house was to be at 3726 Canyon Crest Road. Google shows larger houses there, but it looks like the rebuilt house from the article was removed. (Lots of boulders in both the aerial and street views on the property area.

odinthor Feb 10, 2018 5:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lojack (Post 8080401)
The last page of the article mentioned the new house was to be at 3726 Canyon Crest Road. Google shows larger houses there, but it looks like the rebuilt house from the article was removed. (Lots of boulders in both the aerial and street views on the property area.

I might be reading it wrong; but wasn't the 3726 location the smaller portion of the Busch property they bought first before purchasing the site of the burned-down Boulder Crest?

Add:

Let's afford one more item to Mr. Busch: His wedding. In the Los Angeles Times--

https://s26.postimg.org/r5379w6pl/Busch3-13-1898.jpg

The George H. Busch mentioned in one of the articles is, I guess, R.J.'s brother. He showed up at R.J.'s wedding reception with a lot of other Busches, who seem to have had a center of distribution around Santa Ana/Orange in O.C.


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