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It's in the design/economics. 111 W. 57th will be 1,400 ft and is not even close to 500,000 square feet. I think it's only 300,000 square feet, and that's including an existing building. |
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If 1600-1800 ft tower get build here, which I hope it will, then this will thwart observation deck plans for reduced height HY North Tower. I don't think many people, after seeing the city from 1800 ft, would go across the street and spend another $30-40 just to see it again from 600 ft lower.
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The Royal Sheik's should take advantage of this opportunity. They tend to have a good eye when it comes to building the tallest or largest "anything".
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You don't need the tallest building around to have an observation deck (see 30 Rock, which is one of the most popular decks on earth), and this "Hudson Spire" site or whatever it's named will probably be hotel-residential, and therefore no public observation deck. |
^ That's correct. Also, the Hudson Yards deck would continue to be the highest outdoor observation deck, while at the same time significantly lower than a potential deck here. It would really be no different than having two different decks in the same building. They could get approval for an observation deck here. Extell was reportedly considering adding a deck to the Nordstrom tower, but I don't think they will.
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I would be really surprised if any of these new residential supertalls had an observation deck. $100 million apartments and observation decks don't really go together, especially if you're talking super-skinny towers that have very limited elevator space. |
As a rule of thumb NY buildings generally end up 1-200 feet shorter than originally announced which would put this thing at 1600 to the spire, I think that's definitely possible.
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like I said, recently.
225 w 57th was originally slated to be 1250ft. Tower Verre was cut 200ft by the Planning Commission back in 2009. |
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If we wanna get picky, it was originally planned to be much lower than that, in the 700 ft range originally. |
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- You need dedicated elevators for the deck, which will be hard to fit in a narrow core - You need queuing space on the lower floors plus a large amount of space on the deck, which will be limited due to the towers relatively narrow width. - Evidently there is already an observation deck or lounge or what have you in the building for residents. An observation deck would mean yet another floor would be lost, another floor that could support a 90-100 million dollar condo. |
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i think that 1800ft is the roof height , imagine that we added a spire same height of one world trade center spire ,it will make hudson spire a 2208 ft tower
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