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ethereal_reality Dec 16, 2012 1:01 AM

ProphetM...quite impressed you found the location of the Hollywoodland mystery home.

I had to go and take a look myself.

http://imageshack.us/a/img33/6521/aa...rtondrhome.jpg
ebay


The surviving stairs are the best element of this 1965 home.

http://imageshack.us/a/img560/630/aa...tondrsteps.jpg
google street view








http://imageshack.us/a/img443/3919/a...tondrhome2.jpg
ebay


pretty much the same view today.

http://imageshack.us/a/img145/4858/a...rtowardhol.jpg
google street view
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If you turn the corner...

http://imageshack.us/a/img339/2241/a...all1revers.jpg
google street view



the massive 1920s wall continues for quite a distance.

http://imageshack.us/a/img853/1527/a...ertonwall2.jpg
google street view
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tovangar2 Dec 16, 2012 1:07 AM

Bernard Maybeck & Greene & Greene
 
Originally Posted by ethereal_reality
OK, I finally located a photo of the station in the park!

http://imageshack.us/a/img69/1296/aa...parkflickr.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fo-to/2263411611/

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 5939346)
As mentioned earlier, Google Street View sucks in that area - you can see the depot on MLK at Carson Dr., but there's a haze over the street view camera that makes for a crappy picture, especially with a tree blocking the view.

However, Bing Maps also has a street-level view feature, and their picture is much better:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K...152%2520PM.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/images/icons/icon4.gif
Link to Bing location.
The one end of the building that was enclosed for many years has been opened back up.

The building to the right is the Lynwood Natatorium swimming pool.

Thank you so much ethereal_reality & ProphetM for tracking that down. The station looks quite content under the trees.

I noticed to the left, in the photo immediately above, what appears to be a longer/larger version of the the old P.E. station.
It turns out it's the entrance to a Lynwood civic building within the confines of City Park. A bit odd of them to do that, especially since it's not quite right and doesn't quite work,
but I'm sure it was kindly meant.

There's one on the Bullis Ave side:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-s...440%2520PM.jpg
Google SV

and another on the Century Blvd side:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e...243%2520PM.jpg
gsv


Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5938978)
I am sure we covered the house at 3431 Waverly at one point, but I couldn't find it using search here or with the google method...

As it's a Catholic retreat now, I think the house is most often listed under the name of the order that runs it:
Immaculate Heart Retreat House
Operated by the Immaculate Heart of Mary Sisters
3431 Waverly Drive
Los Angeles, CA 90027
213-644-1126

The complex has grown like Topsy:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4...702%2520PM.jpg
gsv


Here's a nice pic of the Anthony's other house, it predates their Maybeck house by eighteen years:
Earle C. Anthony House 1909 by architects Charles Sumner + Henry Mather Greene | 910 N. Bedford Dr | Beverly Hills
http://www.you-are-here.com/building/bedford.jpg
http://www.you-are-here.com/building/bedford.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5938978)
I know what you mean, but of course, that's what too many people thought after the Victorian era, hence the loss of Bunker Hill among so much else.

Pfffft, don't mind me, I'm just old and cranky.

ethereal_reality Dec 16, 2012 1:16 AM

While I was exploring Rodgerton Drive I came across this fine view (looking east).

http://imageshack.us/a/img545/6554/a...drvieweast.jpg
google street view



I am wondering about this estate.

http://imageshack.us/a/img191/4112/a...ondrviewe2.jpg
google street view



closer view. Notice the stand alone tower and mini-turret.

http://imageshack.us/a/img841/7350/a...ndrviewe2a.jpg
google street view


I feel incredibly inept because I wasn't able to locate it when I drove the googlemobile in that area. To and fro I drove to no avail. Help!
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ethereal_reality Dec 16, 2012 1:22 AM

Palms, Figueroa 1880s

http://imageshack.us/a/img10/8237/aafigueroa1880s.jpg
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tovangar2 Dec 16, 2012 1:23 AM

not a f@#king clue....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5939582)
ProphetM...quite impressed you found the location of the Hollywoodland mystery home.

I had to go and take a look myself.
pretty much the same view today.

http://imageshack.us/a/img145/4858/a...rtowardhol.jpg
google street view
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OMG. hopeless.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0...411%2520PM.jpg

FredH Dec 16, 2012 1:25 AM

"Trolley Court" Bungalows - 1941
 
Looks like you got half a car for $30 a month. They say it was three rooms...looks like three small rooms. No location given.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8817/00028207.jpg
lapl

ethereal_reality Dec 16, 2012 1:46 AM

:previous: I'd love to know where that was located. Notice the garages under the 'streetcar' on the right.
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Anyone know where Fruitland School was located?

http://imageshack.us/a/img22/8579/aa...chool1909e.jpg
ebay

http://imageshack.us/a/img832/9772/a...chool1909r.jpg
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tovangar2 Dec 16, 2012 1:50 AM

1623 Elevado
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham (Post 5939413)
I grew up in Silverlake area on a circle street on a hill. In the late 40's there was in the middle of the circle one house and property that occupied half of the land in the circle. It belonged to a lone woman who had a chauffeur driven Lincoln Continental. Her name was Mrs. Fox and was elderly. i was always told that it was the wife of the Fox Studio Fox. Since that time some of the property has been subdivided, address is 1623 Elevado St. 90026. House is large with a separate garage and servants quarters. I would say 1920's construction or earlier. Anybody know anything about it.


Zillow gives 1912 as the construction date for this 5 bed/4 bath 5,062 sq ft home. Happy birthday?
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/16...20744789_zpid/

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c...603%2520PM.jpg
gvs

Not exactly enhanced by the pool and rooftop turret:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B...409%2520PM.jpg
google maps

Wig-Wag Dec 16, 2012 4:00 AM

"Trolley Court" Bungalows - 1941
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 5939605)
Looks like you got half a car for $30 a month. They say it was three rooms...looks like three small rooms. No location given.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8817/00028207.jpg
lapl

This trolley court was in San Diego, and was made up of surplus San Diego Electric Railway Class 1 center entrance cars that we disposed of by SDERY in 1939. See: http://sandiegohistoricstreetcars.org/history.htm

A nearly identical photo to the one posted here appears on page 102 of Rails of the Silver Gate - The Spreckels San Diego Empire by Richard V. Dodge - Published by Golden West Books.

Cheers,
Jack

tovangar2 Dec 16, 2012 4:41 AM

Trolley Car on South Spring, 1898
 
I'm sure this one's come up before, but it's always nice to watch it again.
Thomas Edison documents Victorian LA (29 seconds):
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-s...243%2520PM.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXJzV3TDnZ0

austlar1 Dec 16, 2012 5:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 5939621)
Zillow gives 1912 as the construction date for this 5 bed/4 bath 5,062 sq ft home. Happy birthday?
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/16...20744789_zpid/

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c...603%2520PM.jpg
gvs

Not exactly enhanced by the pool and rooftop turret:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B...409%2520PM.jpg
google maps

Wow! The Zillow link says this place last sold in 1995 for only $150,000. That seems impossible. Was the place a complete wreck or perhaps sold to a relative for cheap? I remember 1996, and already 150K was not buying much of anything in Silverlake.

ProphetM Dec 16, 2012 5:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5939592)

closer view. Notice the stand alone tower and mini-turret.

http://imageshack.us/a/img841/7350/a...ndrviewe2a.jpg
google street view


I feel incredibly inept because I wasn't able to locate it when I drove the googlemobile in that area. To and fro I drove to no avail. Help!
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That's 3030 Hollyridge Dr. (Google Maps link)

Here's an overhead shot via Google Maps - crenellations all over the place.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x...551%2520PM.jpg

It looks like the biggest tower that was visible from a distance is actually part of the entrance gate.

This property has a very long driveway so you can't get close to it with Street View. This is the best shot that shows any of the house:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-x...829%2520PM.jpg

Looking up, you can see the light-colored building and also the more brownish building on the right, also crenellated.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Z...009%2520PM.jpg

Edit: Link to article - About that Castle in the Hollywood Hills - Curbed LA, July 1, 2009

ethereal_reality Dec 16, 2012 6:44 AM

:previous: Thank you for your help ProphetM. The place is horrendous...I had no idea. :(
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ethereal_reality Dec 16, 2012 6:51 AM

A photograph of the home of Los Angeles' first mayor. Does anyone know where this might be?

http://imageshack.us/a/img27/1395/aabmayor1965.jpg
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reverse
http://imageshack.us/a/img38/5673/aa...865reverse.jpg


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tovangar2 Dec 16, 2012 7:01 AM

Susana Machado Bernard Residence
 
Blimey ProphetM, you're good.

Speaking of big houses, I searched for this one on the thread and got nothing, so, just in case anyone's never seen it before, and/or ever wondered what John Parkinson was up to in 1902:
Susana Machado Bernard Residence, 845 S. Lake Street at James M Woods Blvd, MacArthur Park
Thirty-five rooms, including 10 bedrooms plus servants quarters. 10,032 sq ft plus carriage house. $50,000 when built.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-m...909%2520PM.jpg
ryerson and burnham archives/art institute of chicago

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3464/...4c15b33d6c.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3374/...68a23db4b7.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3098/...a2694e520f.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/...c86e85591b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3355/...53646f605a.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3381/...a68f4b149b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3088/...9baa4565e5.jpg
carriage house:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3336/...282b0d8e0d.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/...1849d67fb1.jpg
above photos: http://bigorangelandmarks.blogspot.c...-carriage.html
http://www.you-are-here.com/building/carriage_house.jpg
http://www.you-are-here.com/building/machado.jpg
last two photos: http://www.you-are-here.com/building/machado.html

Susan Machado Bernard, a widow with eleven children, was a granddaughter of Jose Manuel Machado. He came to LA in 1781 and was one of the original founders of the city.
The Bernard family owned the home until 1962.

The home is now owned by The Center for Human Rights & Constitutional Law which has operated it as a children's homeless shelter, Casa Libre/Freedom House, since 2002.

Fascinating how Parkinson went from this to Bullocks Wilshire, City Hall & Union Station

Info from links above

ethereal_reality Dec 16, 2012 7:21 AM

:previous: The Susana Machado Bernard residence is amazing Tovanger2! Thanks.
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tovangar2 Dec 16, 2012 7:28 AM

Mayor Alpheus P. Hodges, MD and the Bella Union Hotel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5939832)
A photograph of the home of Los Angeles' first mayor. Does anyone know where this might be?

http://imageshack.us/a/img27/1395/aabmayor1965.jpg
ebay

reverse
http://imageshack.us/a/img38/5673/aa...865reverse.jpg


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It should maybe have said former home. Alpheus P. Hodges had moved back to Alexandria, Virginia and died by 1858 (he was only 36). There are no likenesses of him.

http://www.publicartinla.com/UnionSt...ayor_sign1.jpg
LAT

P.S.
It may be of some further interest that Dr. Hodges and his partner and friend, James Brown Winston (1820-1884), also a physician, came to LA from Virginia in 1849 and owned the Bella Union Hotel (built 1835/demolished 1940) together. Horace Bell, the author of the seminal historical work Reminiscences of a Ranger (1881) described the Bella Union as it was when he stayed there in 1851:

"The house was a one-story flat-roofed adobe, with a corral in the rear, extending to Los Angeles street, with the usual great Spanish portal, near which stood a little frame house, one room above and one below. The lower room had the sign "Imprenta" over the door fronting on Los Angeles street, which meant that the Star was published therein. The room upstairs was used as a dormitory for the printers and editors.
. . . On the north side . . . were numerous pigeon-holes, or dog-kennels. These were the rooms for the guests of the Bella Union. In rainy weather the primitive earthen floor was sometimes, and generally, rendered quite muddy by percolations from the roof above. . . . The rooms were not over 6x9 [feet] in size. Such were the ordinary dormitories of the hotel advertised as being the "best hotel south of San Francisco." If a very aristocratic guest came along, a great sacrifice was made in his favor, and he was permitted to sleep on the little billiard table. [In the bar] during that time were the most bandit, cut-throat looking set [of people] that the writer had ever set his youthful eyes upon. . . . all . . . had slung to their rear the never-failing pair of Colt's, generally with the accompaniment of the bowie knife."


Hodges and Winston added a second story and a balcony in late 1851 (the third floor was added in 1869).

Hodges was our first and youngest mayor (aged 28 when he took office in 1850). He served as mayor for one year and was also coroner and deputy sheriff. The Bella Union did double-duty as the courthouse during Hodges tenure as mayor.

info from wiki & LAT

tovangar2 Dec 16, 2012 9:03 AM

Susana Machado Bernard Residence
 
Thank you e_r :-)

Ms. Bernard's late husband was French-Swiss. Although he was dead by the time the house
was planned, it seems to have a fantasy, fairy-tale alpine thing going on.
Harris Newmark remembered Juan Bernard in his "Sixty Years in Southern California",

"Juan Bernard, a native of French Switzerland, whose daugh-
ter married D. Botiller, now an important landowner, came to
California by way of the Horn, in search of the precious metal,
preceding me to this land of sunshine. For awhile, he had a
brickyard on Buena Vista Street ; but in the late seventies, soon
after marrying Senorita Susana Machado, daughter of Don
Agustin Machado, he bought a vineyard on Alameda Street,
picturesquely enclosed by a high adobe or brick wall much
after the fashion of a European chateau. He also came to own
the site of the Natick House. A clever linguist and a man
of attractive personality, he passed away in 1889"


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-B...03332%2BPM.jpg
http://casa-libre.org/History.html

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h...831%2520AM.jpg
google maps

I'd take that carriage house in a minute:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3336/...282b0d8e0d.jpg
bigorangelandmarks

back door:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6...536%2520AM.jpg
casa-libre.org


There's some glimpses of the interior in this excerpt from
Casa Libre/Freedom House (2008):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ1JatCKfFc

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q...011%2520AM.jpg

One of the Bernard children, Francisca Bernard Botiller, went on to build a less nice, 16,621 sq ft home in BH:
9481 Sunset Boulevard, "Sunset House" (Francis Xavier Lourdou, 1928)
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-S...245%2520AM.jpg
google maps

tovangar2 Dec 16, 2012 11:59 AM

Westlake/McArthur Park Holdout :-)
 
1320 Ingraham Street, 1900

(It's neighbor to the left built in 1923
neighbor to the right built in 1990)

2010
http://www.gonegraphics.com/uglyangel/1320_INGRAHAM.JPG
multiple listing service

2012
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6...559%2520AM.jpg
gvs

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5...425%2520AM.jpg
google maps

GaylordWilshire Dec 16, 2012 1:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 5939890)
Ms. Bernard's late husband was French-Swiss. Although he was dead by the time the house
was planned, it seems to have a fantasy, fairy-tale alpine thing going on.

http://casa-libre.org/images/freedom%20house.jpg
http://casa-libre.org/History.html

One of the Bernard children, Francisca Bernard Botiller, went on to build a less nice, 16,621 sq ft home in BH:
9481 Sunset Boulevard, "Sunset House" (Francis Xavier Lourdou, 1928)

http://www.gonegraphics.com/uglyangel/penthouse.jpg
gonegraphics


More on 9481 Sunset and the Bernard house: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6166


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