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dannywa01 Jul 19, 2015 4:26 AM

Thanks so much for the help! And I'm glad there are others who love to look at LA's past as much as I do. This thread is amazing!

unihikid Jul 19, 2015 4:51 AM


Originally Posted by dannywa01 (Post 7100372)
Thanks so much for the help! And I'm glad there are others who love to look at LA's past as much as I do. This thread is amazing!

Welcome Danny! I grew up a few miles west of you..Pico and Fairfax, but had friends right off of Windsor (near Capitol Burger)..either way I wouldn't be surprised if that was a BOA. Also the church you speak about is the Forum Theater ..Lots of good gems in your area,such as Victoria Circle, Catch One,Country Club Park and of course I still love the old Bekin's Building right at Crenshaw and Pico.

dannywa01 Jul 19, 2015 5:19 AM

There are so many amazing gems on that corner alone, and I'm sure there's much history. I actually found this forum researching the history behind the former Warner Brothers Forum Theatre. I can't even begin to ask all the question I may have about the area on Norton between Pico and Country Club alone as that's where I grew up! Is there a place in this forum for all my questions? Haha. I've actually been to the Capitol burgers, but as a little kid when I frequented Queen Anne park. My mother once told me that the Jay's market in that area of Pico and Norton was once burned down during the LA riots of 92. So much history!

tovangar2 Jul 19, 2015 7:01 AM

Hi Danny, that's a great block of S Norton between County Club and Pico.

The city gives 4019 as the official address of your corner building (the other addresses, 4013-4027, are probably for individual shops). The permit for new construction is dated 10 Feb 1927. No. 4019 was purpose built for "stores and offices" (later permits refer to the building's use as "Public Assembly"). The New York Finance Company is listed as owner. Albert C. Martin, Sr was the architect (Martin's wiki page is here if you're interested). A.C. Martin's offices were in the Higgins building at W 2nd Street and Main, DTLA, in 1927. The firm he founded is still in business.

The former sign on the back of the building is in the typeface which Bank of America used years ago. Bank of America was listed as owner in 1949 when they got a permit to add their signage to the front of the building. Before that, in 1941, there was a Farmers and Merchants Bank branch at this address
via dannywa01

The building permit for 4019 W Pico:

Someone was shot and killed at No. 4019, during a party in 2000 (that can happen anywhere).

Here's a 1921 Baist real estate map of your block in 1921. There were more empty lots than built ones!
baist map 1921, plate 37 / historic mapworks

The mixed-use building on the other side of S Norton looks interesting too. It went in in 1925 and houses "Jewel's Room" and "Jewel's Catch One":

The Vintage Los Angeles Mid-City fb page is here

LA.curbed's Mid-City archive is here

An aerial of the Forum Theater, 1924, with (almost) empty lots across the street:
lapl (detail) via LA movie palaces

CityBoyDoug Jul 19, 2015 3:07 PM


Originally Posted by dannywa01 (Post 7100372)
Thanks so much for the help! And I'm glad there are others who love to look at LA's past as much as I do. This thread is amazing!

Looking East on Pico.

ethereal_reality Jul 19, 2015 7:53 PM


Originally Posted by JScott (Post 7099868)

I posted this link beneath both photographs.

ethereal_reality Jul 19, 2015 8:13 PM


Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7100082)
I know Dragon's Den isn't new to NLA, but this picture comes with a review - "Never indigestion". The photographer also seems to like the name "Fook Wo Lung Curio Co.".

The seller has this picture dated as 1924 (or "1924-1927?" further down the listing), but the 1940 Federal Building is visible in the background.

:previous: This is a fun find Hoss!
...and thanks for pointing out the discrepancy with the date.

Just for fun; Here's Yvonne DeCarlo (again) walking toward the Dragon's Den from Union Station.

film noir: Criss-Cross (1949)
Beaudry screen-grab.

View Beaudry initial post on 'Criss Cross' here:


tovangar2 Jul 19, 2015 8:21 PM


Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7100699)
I posted this link beneath both photographs.

That's my fault e_r, I didn't notice the credit/link at first. JScott was just gently pointing it out to me, b/c sometimes I get lost in the visuals. Anyway, great photos. Thank you.

ethereal_reality Jul 19, 2015 8:22 PM


Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7100036)
Look at this e_r, a snapshot of the coffin-shaped Hotel Figueroa pool after the "Y" building was demolished,
but before the pool area was glammed-up:

This is excellent t2! As you know, I love candid (amateur) snapshots like this.

Martin Pal Jul 19, 2015 8:27 PM

E_R, and other NLA forum members...I hope you don't mind...

For the past three weeks or more, E_R has been posting a series of fantastic color
kodachrome images from the 1940's and I just wanted to see them all together. Like
a tour. If it's just for me, I apologize, but I hope others might find it worthwhile, too.
Martin P.

I included the post link for those who might want to reference the original
with more info and/or replies to it. The photos without the watermark on
them were done courtesy of HossC. Thanks for your indulgence.

Martin Pal Jul 19, 2015 8:29 PM

The glory days of 'The Lido' at the Ambassador Hotel/Ambassador Lido Club, "Feminine Conditioning"
A small sign for "Gentlemen's Dressing Rooms' is visible at far right.

I just came across this slide showing an unknown movie set. The seller dates it as 1940s.
[It was decided it might be the Paramount [or Warner?) Movie Ranch]

China City, early 1940's.

Martin Pal Jul 19, 2015 8:31 PM

Neon along Wilshire Boulevard, 1940's, Los Angeles.

Here's a wonderful view along Wilshire Boulevard. Mid-distance is the Chapman Park Hotel grounds and the Zephyr Room.

We all know this place.
The Pan-Pacific Auditorium, Los Angeles 1940's.
Car Show? Ice Capades?

Martin Pal Jul 19, 2015 8:32 PM

In living color!!!!!
We've seen the Hawaii Theater a few times on's the one near Florentine Gardens.
(Hawaii Theater 5941 Hollywood Boulevard.)

McDonnell's Drive-In Los Angeles.

Los Angeles LAMTA Pacific Electric Interurban #1706; L.A. River Bridge.
(No mention of the "snow.")

Martin Pal Jul 19, 2015 8:33 PM

Downtown in the 1940's.

This is New Chinatown. The Forbidden Palace was located at 451 Gin Ling Way.

The Sontag Drug Store on the northeast corner of Hollywood Blvd. and Cherokee Avenue, 1940s.

Martin Pal Jul 19, 2015 8:35 PM

Hollywood Boulevard in the 1940's. Note U.S.O. Club banner, "One Door South."

Downtown, 7th Street, Los Angeles, 1940's.

Banners on 7th Street, Los Angeles
(This one is probably a decade older, but it's the same view, so I included it.)

Martin Pal Jul 19, 2015 8:36 PM

Looking north from the corner of Broadway and 8th.

NEON HEAVEN (Helms Olympic Bread)

NEON HEAVEN Montage: Pig 'n Whistle, The Melody Lane, The Owl Drug Co., Drink Coca-Cola, The Rexall Drug Store.

Martin Pal Jul 19, 2015 8:37 PM

NEON HEAVEN Montage includes The White Spot, Silverwoods, Hart Shaffner & Marx, The $2.50 Shoe Store, Katie John, A&P Food Palace, Sontag.

This scene is so idylic and seems so far removed from wartime.
Hollywood High jalopies. I can't tell what the lead car is- some Plymouth or Dodge. The other one is a 1930 Ford (Model A) standard roadster. No top? no problem (it never rains in LA). I wonder if the two fellows dashing up the stairs are the drivers, and if they went on to fly bombers.

1940's Westwood I believe. (Chandlers Shoe's/French Room, J.C. Penney)

Martin Pal Jul 19, 2015 8:38 PM

Another idyllic scene from the 1940's. Westlake Park. (MacArthur Park after the war.)

NANCY'S again!
Here's another great slide from the 1940s looking toward Hollywood and Vine.
This is probably the best view of Nancy's that I 've seen (as well as a nifty
view of Thrifty's). There's a Chandlers in the photo too! I just noticed the
Lutheran Service Center sign at far right, for servicemen.

I believe this is the first color image of the French Village on NLA.
The traffic's pretty heavy heading into Cahuenga Pass.
(Hollywood Bowl entrance.)

Martin Pal Jul 19, 2015 8:39 PM

Whitney Heights? -Note the Hollywood sign still spells out Hollywoodland.

Kodachrome slide, Stan Kenton playing the Palladium, 1941.

Another fine Kodachrome slide from the 1940's.
The Medical Building (?) and a Don Martin School of Radio at 'Crossroads Of The World'.

Martin Pal Jul 19, 2015 8:40 PM

North Main Street showing, from left to right, the Pico House...the Merced Theater...the Masonic Building and several other buildings.

Slide of the pool area at the Miramar Hotel in Santa Monica, 1940's.

Slide showing a swimming pool beneath the Colorado Street Bridge in Pasadena, 1940's.
I believe this the swimming pool at the Hotel Vista Del Arroyo.

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