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MichaelRyerson Jun 12, 2015 1:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7059548)
Scull and Crossbones warn drivers of blind curve on Cahuenga Pass, 1937.

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'Scull and Crossbones'? Must be an Ivy League warning.

Retired_in_Texas Jun 12, 2015 2:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 7056081)
^^^
A seldom-mentioned factor was the demand for high-quality steel scrap during and after the Korean War, which also accelerated the demise of many steam locomotives.

Cheers,

Earl

Earl the era of the steam locomotive was more or less over before the Korean war. Yes a few oil fired ones remained across the country and the Pennsylvania RR held on to coal fired on some routes well into the late 1950s because of their coal producing customers. The Texas Pacific (Missouri Pacific) mainline I lived near growing up only occasionally ran steam in the early 1950s and it was neat to see those huge "Texas Class" locomotives pulling a string of passenger cars at 75 to 100 mph. From Dallas to St. Louis (about 900 miles) only took about ten hours as I recall. From San Diego to Dallas probably not much more thanks to flat land and few stops allowing the engineer to run those monsters wide open. Not sure those times were ever equaled with diesel. My uncle who was an engineer on that line in those days said they would commonly be humming along through New Mexico and West Texas at 120 mph when running steam.

Steam power was killed by maintenance and labor costs verses diesel electric. Steam locomotives were also a lot harder on track than diesel electric. Now for us rail fans we don't ever want to see the end of the romance of steam as there is just something about the pounding drivers and the rhythm of the exhaust. On the other hand, the cab of a steam locomotive crossing the deserts in August with temperatures over 100 degrees had to be workplace hell to say the least.

MichaelRyerson Jun 12, 2015 3:53 PM

Apropos of the current conversation...
 
thought I'd share this great image...

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/275/18...af5540c8_o.jpgSteam visits Glendale one last time, ca.1965

gatheringgardiners.blogspot.com

BifRayRock Jun 12, 2015 4:24 PM





:previous: Cough, cough :ohyeah




From a compilation entitled "Safety measures for autos and pedestrians." (Some of which have been previously posted) Source offers few details. Some locals are obvious, e.g., LA Jr. College. http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../34665/rec/147






1931 - 850 N. Vermont. "The Junior College Pharmacy" (Currently Cafe '50s)
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Another electric stop sign and a cross walk safety apparatus.
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1931 Location uncertain.
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A fetching L-29 Cord. Nice paint work on that fender.
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Not quite sure what safety measures or needs are targeted here.
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Hoover and Ninth
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BifRayRock Jun 12, 2015 4:58 PM








1928, 814 S Los Angeles Street. Royal Mfg producer of Nurse outfits. http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/9704/rec/146
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ethereal_reality Jun 12, 2015 5:02 PM

just posted by BifRayRock
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/qUuuBR.jpg


I believe this is the same building as it looks today.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/CY1eAr.jpg
gsv


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gsv

I hope someone can figure out the location of the underground pedestrian crossing in the photo BRR just posted.

ethereal_reality Jun 12, 2015 5:17 PM


Here's the same view today.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...909/untM8C.jpg
gsv


At first I didn't think this could be the same building,

but then I looked at it from this angle.
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gsv


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/rYL57g.jpg
originally posted by BifRayRock




and here it is from the opposite direction.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/rejlas.jpg
gsv

HossC Jun 12, 2015 5:18 PM

Examining the original image, there's a sign in the background that says "ROY PASCHAL MOVED", so I went back to the 1929 CD and found Roy B Paschal and his wife Sarah with a gas station at 100 N Hoover. The street going from left to right is Beverly Boulevard (you can just see the word "BLVD" on a sign in front of the gas station). There's no trace of the pedestrian subway today.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...verBeverly.jpg
GSV

This was the Osteopathic Sanitarium Hospital at 235 N Hoover. It was later known as Temple Community Hospital. Here's a better view posted by GW.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6367641)

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00078/00078355.jpgLAPL

The LAPL caption: "An aerial view of the Osteopathic Sanitarium Hospital, located at 235 N. Hoover Street. The photograph shows a long, 5-story brick building with numerous windows throughout, a large rooftop patio, and lush gardens in front. On its left, the sloping hill has building debris scattered about, and the right and rear show numerous homes and streets. The hospital is now known as Temple Community Hospital."

The hospital is now closed, but the building is still there.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...leHospital.jpg
Google Maps

ethereal_reality Jun 12, 2015 5:30 PM

:previous: Excellent sleuthing Hoss!

BifRayRock Jun 12, 2015 5:34 PM




:previous: Thanks HossC and ER






1928, Elizabeth "Betty" Baker, actress, unidentified Los Angeles and a kite - http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/6343/rec/64



Unknown location
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oldstuff Jun 12, 2015 5:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7058643)
Here's something I wasn't aware of....



Disneyland had a Hill's Bros. 'Coffee Garden' in the Town Square, circa 1959.

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eBay

So where in the Town Square was this located? I can't picture it at all.
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If you came in the right side tunnel of the main gate and walked past where the bank and "Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln", and then the hat shop you would be facing where the Coffee Garden was located. The "backstage gate" where the parades start and exit is to the right of the photo you have. The center of the town square and the flagpole would be on your left.

ethereal_reality Jun 12, 2015 5:52 PM

:previous: Thanks oldstuff.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/ColorPhoto-B...item463bdd3c32

Here's a shot of the 'backstage gate' you mentioned in your description.

BifRayRock Jun 12, 2015 6:31 PM




1937, Railroad tracks and clean modern buildings near them? A panorama. Strong suspicion this is warehouse district near Alameda RR tracks, 1128 E 5th Street is listing for one of businesses depicted. vvvvv - http://digitallibrary.usc.edu /cdm/singleitem/collection/p15799coll170/id/71444/rec/78





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Hollywood Water Heater Co - 5057 Hollywood Blvd in '29CD
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Hotel, Newhouse Chemical, Keystone Express System (1128 E. 5th Street)
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Pacific Coast Auto and Truck Wrecking
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BifRayRock Jun 12, 2015 6:48 PM








1927 - Seventh and Alvarado Streets, Citizens Trust and Savings Bank

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Alvarado Theater (See also http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6548)
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tovangar2 Jun 12, 2015 7:06 PM

:previous:

7th and Alvarado today. Everything's still there, after a fashion:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1...20126%2BPM.jpg
gsv

P.S.

In case anyone was wondering what that terrific "Olympic" rooftop sign is advertising, it's the grand 1925 Olympic Apartments at 725 S Westlake Ave:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-v...13903%2BPM.jpg
gsv


e-r's taken us to this corner before with a special focus on the Alvarado Theater. His great post is here

Martin Pal Jun 12, 2015 7:22 PM

:uhh:
In my mind, these people in the background are all naked.

But that's me.
:)

CityBoyDoug Jun 12, 2015 9:53 PM

My apologies HossC for not giving you the credit for the 1927 Hollywood Blvd. parade photo for the Councilman. I've corrected the error. What a dunderhead.
Ref:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=29079

Tourmaline Jun 12, 2015 10:07 PM

Greetings from Burbank
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There was a Pickwick garden, park, riding academy, rink, pool, bowling alley and of course, the 781 car space Drive-in.


1930s - Riding Academy
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Pickwick pool
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1961 Pickwick Drive-In, Burbank facing NW
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1961 Pickwick facing West
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1950 - Not far from the Pickwick, the ladies compete for Saddle Queen.

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left, Dorothy Green, Dolores Eames, Wanda Cantlon of Van Nuys, Evelyn Rosenberger from North Hollywood, Sylvia Durando of Burbank and Ronnie Manley, Glendale. Seated is Carolina Cotton, Western star, who will crown the queen.
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Red car - Orange Grove and Glenoaks
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3901 Riverside Drive
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HossC Jun 12, 2015 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7061066)

My apologies HossC for not giving you the credit for the 1927 Hollywood Blvd. parade photo for the Councilman. I've corrected the error. What a dunderhead.

No problem, CBD :).


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This image was in part 3 of my Citizens Trust and Savings Bank round-up. Here's an interior shot from that post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6532642)

There's also a 1928 picture of the "new interior" of the Seventh-Alvarado branch.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
USC Digital Library


MichaelRyerson Jun 13, 2015 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7060609)
Examining the original image, there's a sign in the background that says "ROY PASCHAL MOVED", so I went back to the 1929 CD and found Roy B Paschal and his wife Sarah with a gas station at 100 N Hoover. The street going from left to right is Beverly Boulevard (you can just see the word "BLVD" on a sign in front of the gas station). There's no trace of the pedestrian subway today.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...verBeverly.jpg
GSV



This was the Osteopathic Sanitarium Hospital at 235 N Hoover. It was later known as Temple Community Hospital. Here's a better view posted by GW.



The hospital is now closed, but the building is still there.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...leHospital.jpg
Google Maps

I was born here.


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