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CrestedSaguaro May 28, 2020 4:08 PM

X Phoenix BaseCamp
 
Here's the latest on X Phoenix Basecamp. I'm sure most of you are aware that floors were added to the project. Looks like it will be 234' to the penthouse (about the same height as the Stewart). This wil be tremendous if this and McKinley Greene both get built. Northern Downtown is about to completely transform with these and the current glut of high-rises getting built.

Link to docs: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...nr?usp=sharing

https://i.imgur.com/XFiyUeE.png


https://i.imgur.com/lgxeZUt.png

Mr.RE May 28, 2020 4:57 PM

Cant really tell by these images but will the amenity/pool deck be on the roof?

biggus diggus May 28, 2020 5:00 PM

Looks like what they were building in the late sixties.

Phxguy May 28, 2020 6:22 PM

Nice! It’ll be an excellent addition to the area. My only qualm is that it went from zero parking spaces to 141. I wonder if that bumped the height? Still better than the 300+ spaces required but I guess having less parking is a step in the right direction so I can’t be opposed to that.

IndyAZ May 28, 2020 7:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Phxguy (Post 8935157)
Nice! It’ll be an excellent addition to the area. My only qualm is that it went from zero parking spaces to 141. I wonder if that bumped the height? Still better than the 300+ spaces required but I guess having less parking is a step in the right direction so I can’t be opposed to that.

Exactly, levels 2-4 are now a parking garage, the residential floors and units counts stayed the same. That is why the building went from 16 to 19 floors.

combusean May 28, 2020 7:44 PM

The ~250' limit always seems to pencil out on value-engineered projects built to be sold. I wonder why that is.

I like that this building looks from the 60s, it's much cleaner than Astra which is tbqh a jumbled mess. Great addition for the area, this one is going to fill up fast as one of the cheaper options downtown.

IndyAZ May 28, 2020 7:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.RE (Post 8935051)
Cant really tell by these images but will the amenity/pool deck be on the roof?

The building does not have a pool or outdoor amenity level. It is mainly micro studio units (400 SF) with minimal amenities to try to keep the rent costs down. I think the developer said they wanted rents to be around $1150-1250 per month, compared to about $1600+ for a new 1 bed/1 bath unit downtown.

I personally wouldn't choose to live here since there are no amenities/pool, small units, limited parking, and no balconies, but I think adding to the diversity of units types and price point downtown is a good thing. Everything being built for awhile seemed to be all Class A luxury apartments with every amenity possible, but that's not affordable for everyone.

biggus diggus May 28, 2020 8:51 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyAZ (Post 8935265)
Everything being built for awhile seemed to be all Class A luxury apartments with every amenity possible, but that's not affordable for everyone.

It's about time, isn't it?

I would guess that they had to remove a bit of parking to drive up the number of units in order to make this thing pencil. If you can turn 2 floors from dead space to rentable square footage that might be the only way.

Buckeye Native 001 May 28, 2020 9:09 PM

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Originally Posted by combusean (Post 8935262)
I like that this building looks from the 60s, it's much cleaner than Astra which is tbqh a jumbled mess.

Side note and probably a very minor/worthless complaint, but does anyone here have the time and skills required to render a drawing/model/diagram of what exactly Astra is supposed to look like? I can't for the life of me figure out what I'm looking at, or what I should be looking at, in the renderings on that thread.

gymratmanaz May 28, 2020 9:47 PM

Agree about Astra. I love the quirky angles and layers. Is there a whole representation of it?

Mr.RE May 28, 2020 10:31 PM

I'm dying to see some photo realistic renderings. That will really help. I saw one of the ground level but that's it, if they made one of them there's got to be more

combusean May 29, 2020 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckeye Native 001 (Post 8935367)
Side note and probably a very minor/worthless complaint, but does anyone here have the time and skills required to render a drawing/model/diagram of what exactly Astra is supposed to look like? I can't for the life of me figure out what I'm looking at, or what I should be looking at, in the renderings on that thread.

You're looking at what you're looking at. Zoom in to see the descriptions of the materials they're describing.

Buckeye Native 001 May 29, 2020 1:25 AM

Right, I guess I'm just having trouble visualizing what it looks like spacially and in relation to what's around it, if that makes any sense? I know there's side views and a ground level rendering, but I'm thinking more along the lines of what Ronnie posted above for X Phoenix.

combusean May 29, 2020 1:51 AM

$1150 would be a small premium to pay to live in a concrete building in a hot area, especially when all these stickbuilt apartments in lesser areas are seriously overpriced for their construction.

As for Astra, it's slated for the enormous parking lot on the other side of the alley from the Y on 2nd Ave. The entrepreneurial dorm center will be built just off the alley from it on 1st ave on the demolished everything just north of the Y.

Streetview helps for this sort of thing.

ASU Diablo May 29, 2020 4:25 PM

Downtown's Historic Security Building Completed With A Role Of The Dice
 
I love historic tales like these, I had no idea the top of this building used to project a beacon of light in its heyday. This building really needs to go back to public use...

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Business Development Education History Douglas C. Towne May 29, 2020
A bold plan emerged during the Roaring ’20s to build an ornate structure that was to become Arizona’s tallest building. The Security Building, which still stands at the southwest corner of Central Avenue and Van Buren Street, was financed by a 15-person syndicate headed by Dwight B. Heard, publisher of the newspaper now called The Arizona Republic.

“Phoenix Sky Line Soars,” proclaimed the newspaper’s front page when the Security Building opened eight months later in July 1928. The structure was built with reinforced concrete with a hand-molded brick veneer, and featured a marble lobby detailed in gold trim. Business offices occupied the floors between merchants on the ground level and a restaurant at the top. The Renaissance Revival-style building had a glass dome at its peak that projected a beacon of light that could be seen for 30 miles.

Such was the building’s official history for a half-century, but many were unaware of its scandalous, hidden past. “The full story is one of the better skeletons in Arizona’s closet,” Republic columnist Paul Dean wrote in 1978.

The Security Building’s well-kept secret finally leaked out during celebrations commemorating its 50th anniversary. Henderson Stockton, a trial attorney and political insider who was the building’s first tenant, told the Republic that a casino and brothel were temporarily set up in the building’s penthouse to finance the end of the construction project.

Stockton, who was the Heard group’s legal counsel, was free to talk about the event since the death of his clients, and statute of limitations had waived the attorney-client privilege. The lawyer revealed how Heard’s syndicate lacked $100,000 to complete the Security Building, which was three-quarters finished, and in danger of becoming an eight-story shell.

He suggested the Heard group contact his friend, Wirt Bowman, an influential and wealthy national Democratic committeeman. The latter owned several gaming clubs in Tijuana, including a share of the opulent Agua Caliente Casino. Bowman told Heard’s group that he wasn’t in the loan business, but would provide the funding in exchange for a two-week franchise to operate a gambling operation on the eighth floor of the unfinished building.

Stockton then called the governor’s office, looking for off-the-record approval. “’Stock, there just isn’t anybody smart enough in the governor’s office or the attorney general’s office who could find the Security Building in two weeks,’ Governor George Hunt said.” The Maricopa County sheriff, Phoenix mayor, and Phoenix police chief echoed Hunt’s remarks, so Bowman provided the money.

The pop-up nightspot materialized serving bootleg liquor, as Prohibition was still in effect, casino games, and ladies of the evening. Customers packed the penthouse club for eight days but abruptly moved to a safer one-story location for the last six days of the casino lease after a working girl was tossed out of an upper-floor window. She landed below on Stockton’s window sill, which saved her life.

Stockton, who passed away five months after the Republic interview, concluded his titillating revelations about the Security Building, saying, “[Others] can’t possibly have as much fun as we had building this one.”
Source: https://dtphx.org/2020/05/29/downtow...e-of-the-dice/

CrestedSaguaro May 29, 2020 7:37 PM

McKinley Green
 
Records request for McKinley Green prelim came in. Most we already know, but the colors seem different than I've seen in previous renderings. Of course this is the prelim, so anything may have changed.

Two towers. One at 250' (although if you zoom in on the renderings in the prelim, the penthouse/parapet looks to be more like 255'). The second tower is 142'.

Link to preliminary: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...1J?usp=sharing

https://i.imgur.com/DOp8TQc.png

https://i.imgur.com/MaWwDBI.png

IndyAZ May 29, 2020 8:08 PM

Thanks for posting! I really like the look of this building and with the two different height towers.

I spoke to someone involved in this project about 6-8 weeks ago and they mentioned that they were on track and this building was slated to start construction in July, that being pre-covid so it may be slightly delayed, but nonetheless we should hopefully see construction on this one soon!

It also sounds like X PHX Basecamp is aiming for a fall construction start, potentially Oct or Nov, and all the utility upgrades for both will be built together with both developers pitching in since both buildings need the existing infrastructure in McKinley upgraded.

That came from a contractor speaking off the cuff, so who knows if its 100% accurate or not.

xymox May 29, 2020 9:28 PM

Anyone know if there is any movement on the Atari Hotel? Or is that vapor at this point?

combusean May 29, 2020 9:55 PM

That red facade with what looks to be retail looks really good. Looking forward to this one.

Obadno May 29, 2020 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.RE (Post 8920092)
Anyone who works/live in or near downtown have any pictures of the following?:

Kinect
X Phoenix
Battery
Adeline (Hines)
Link Phase 2

Ive been trying to make it down there but live farther away. Any photo updates of progress would be hugely appreciated!!

I combined all of CODE 5's recent pics on the City Compilation page:http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...=74733&page=29


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