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Pedestrian Apr 7, 2020 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by yuriandrade (Post 8887378)
I just came across with this on the Worldometer:

An estimated additional 180 - 195 deaths per day occurring at home in New York City due to COVID-19 are not being counted in the official figures. "Early on in this crisis we were able to swab people who died at home, and thus got a coronavirus reading. But those days are long gone. We simply don't have the testing capacity for the large numbers dying at home. Now only those few who had a test confirmation *before* dying are marked as victims of coronavirus on their death certificate. This almost certainly means we are undercounting the total number of victims of this pandemic," said Mark Levine, Chair of New York City Council health committee

That's terrible. Are there more info on it?

I don't know about New York, but in some states any death outside of a hospital is considered an "unattended death" and becomes a matter for the local coroner who is supposed to do enough of an autopsy to determine whether any "foul play" could have been involved. Under the circumstances, though, I don't see how any corner could keep up with what's happening in New York or anyplace like it so they are probably finessing much of an examination of the deceased.

However, coronavirus testing materials have certainly been in short supply but I doubt they are in such short supply that a few hundred can't be spared to be used on anybody dying with respiratory symptoms who has not already been tested. Furthermore, every death certificate has to have a cause of death listed by a physician and it's quite possible to diagnose COVID-19 as at least a contributory cause of death even if no testing has been done. If somebody with no history of chronic lung disease suddenly dies a respiratory death, you've got to have some plausible reason and in the middle of a coronavirus epidemic what else are you going to blame? I think even these clinical diagnoses should be counted in the totals if they aren't being.

By the way, where on Worldometer did you see this? I can't find any really current info on Worldometer--current as of the first week in April, not back in late March. Things are rapidly changing as to availability of testing and so on.

Yuri Apr 8, 2020 12:10 AM

^^
Pedestrian, I clicked on the "USA". It's on the April 6th (GMT) report.

BTW, I just read somewhere, not finding the link now, that Madrid might have a 50% underreporting. There are an excess of 9,000 deaths compared to the same period last year for 4,500 of confirmed Covid-19 deaths.

sopas ej Apr 8, 2020 1:07 AM

In Los Angeles mayor Eric Garcetti's daily coronavirus briefing, he announced that businesses can turn away customers not wearing face masks starting this Friday.

From LAist:

LA Mayor Garcetti: Shoppers Have To Wear Face Masks Starting Friday

Mayor Eric Garcetti is delivering his daily update on L.A.'s response to coronavirus. You can watch the live video above and follow this post for updates.

FACE MASKS NOW REQUIRED FOR BOTH SHOPPERS AND STORE EMPLOYEES

Starting Thursday night at midnight, businesses will be able to turn away customers who aren't wearing face masks, Garcetti said. Workers in grocery stores, drug stores, restaurants, hotels, taxis, rideshare vehicles, construction sites, among other non-medical essential businesses will have to start wearing face masks as well.

These employers are required to provide face masks to employees or reimburse those employees for purchasing them. They will be required to enforce social distancing for both the public and employees, and provide clean restrooms to their employees and allow those employees to wash their hands every 30 minutes.

[...]

Link: https://laist.com/latest/post/202004...angeles-update

AviationGuy Apr 8, 2020 1:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 8886780)
As a result of not going out...

From CBS2 Los Angeles:

LA Has The Cleanest Air In The World, Report Says

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA) — With so many people staying at home and off the roads, Los Angeles currently has the cleanest air in the world, according to IQ Air’s live quality city ranking.

Following the issuing of the state-wide “Safe-At-Home” orders, many residents began working from home, lowering the number of commuters on the road.

On March 18, L.A.’s infamous rush-hour traffic was moving 71 percent faster than it usually does on a Wednesday afternoon, The New York Times reported.

According to the Environmental Protection Agency, last month L.A. experienced the longest consecutive “good” air days since at least 1980.

Experts say the improvement is also due to fewer planes flying and less ground activity in general.

Link: https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020...UIkLE.facebook


And this has to be cleanest air in the world for a big city, right? I would think Antarctica would have cleaner air...

There are many places with cleaner air, even with the current circumstances.

eschaton Apr 8, 2020 2:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 8887348)
Ah OK. So you're not far from Tucson, a city I've never been to before.

Last year, my partner and I thought to explore Tucson (he's never been there before either). We thought to go because we heard that it's a much more interesting city than Phoenix, and it's also the first city in the US to be named a UNESCO City of Gastronomy. We being into all kinds of cuisines, we wanted to check it out, but we never ended up going.

Bisbee's on my list of places to consider retiring, which isn't that far from you. Though TBH, retirement is at least two decades away still.

LosAngelesSportsFan Apr 8, 2020 2:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jd3189 (Post 8887336)
It’s been raining a lot too. For any of you native southern Californians, has it ever been this wet and green here before?

Yes, absolutely. It happens often honestly. We all got used to the drought years between 2010 and 2016 but the decade prior was very wet if I recall correctly.

Our highest peaks in the LA area, namely Mt Baldy 10,064 feet, San Gorgonio 11,503 feet have snow packs of 10 feet plus right now which is awesome. We should be able to see snow covered peaks almost year round this year :)

Pedestrian Apr 8, 2020 2:40 AM

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Originally Posted by eschaton (Post 8887476)
Bisbee's on my list of places to consider retiring, which isn't that far from you. Though TBH, retirement is at least two decades away still.

Bisbee's very "cute" but awfully isolated. From me it's actually on the other side of a mountain range you have to go around, to the north or south, because there's not really any road that crosses it.

SlidellWx Apr 8, 2020 2:55 AM

Some good news in Louisiana and New Orleans. The rate of new hospitalizations has slowed dramatically and the number of people on ventilators has started to decline over the past week. The governor stated that we are no longer threatened with running out of ICU beds or ventilators given the recent trends.

The state is also starting to publish onset of symptom data for confirmed cases, and it shows that 75% of all confirmed cases had an onset of symptoms on or before March 26th. Hopefully, they will add more data in the coming days, so we can see if the onset of symptoms numbers start declining in the first week of April as hospital data would suggest. The state went into lockdown on March 16th, so it looks like the stay at home orders are paying off.

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...d401d04e8.html

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dave8721 Apr 8, 2020 3:57 AM

This would bode well for us in South Florida where we generally have very clean air (no topology holding in pollutants, sea breeze which blows it all away, no heavy industry/manufacturing to speak of...etc).

It makes sense, a life time of breathing in crap messes with your lungs. Similar to smoking.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/healt...ess/index.html
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Covid-19 death rate rises in counties with high air pollution, study says

You are more likely to die from Covid-19 if you live in a county in the United States with higher levels of long-term air pollution, according to new research released Tuesday by Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

"We found that an increase of only 1 gram per cubic meter in fine particulate matter in the air was associated with a 15% increase in the Covid-19 death rate," said lead author Francesca Dominici, co-director of the Harvard Data Science Initiative.

sopas ej Apr 8, 2020 4:54 AM

Nearing the end of our 3rd week of stay-at-home here in California...

...by drinking a hot chocolate with ginger, anise and cinnamon. MMmmmmMMMmmm!!!
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Photo by me

sopas ej Apr 8, 2020 6:01 PM

From ABC7 Los Angeles:

Coronavirus response: California to receive more than 200 million masks per month, Gov. Newsom says

Gov. Gavin Newsom says he's put together a deal to buy hundreds of millions of desperately needed N95 masks.

"In the last 48 hours we have secured through a consortia of non-profits and a manufacturer here in the state of California upwards of 200 million masks on a monthly basis," said Newsom.

The governor revealed the news on "The Rachael Maddow Show" on Tuesday night. Newsom said California will have enough masks to meet demand, adding that there may even be enough to send to other states.

The governor said the state has already distributed more than 41 million masks. One million of them have come from the federal government.

Newsom announced earlier the nation's most populous state would also share some of its ventilators, a necessary tool to keep struggling patients breathing, with the national stockpile even as it hunts for more of its own supplies. Newsom suggested that New York may be one of the states to receive the ventilators, but he said the federal government was best poised to decide where they were needed most.

"We're very proud to be able to extend a hand of support with those 500 ventilators and send them back east," Newsom said during a news conference. But he said the state is "not naive" to its own needs.

"We need to continue to procure more ventilators," he said.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


Link: https://abc7.com/6086947/?ex_cid=TA_...ZK87igALr8y6sk

mrnyc Apr 8, 2020 6:18 PM

a few scenes around ny:


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Pedestrian Apr 8, 2020 6:42 PM

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BART trains are mostly empty, but that doesn’t stop gate jumpers — some cars downright scary
Phil Matier April 8, 2020 Updated: April 8, 2020 6:28 a.m.

BART ridership has plummeted by more than 93 percent since the stay-at-home order was issued, and that has led to shorter service hours, longer waits between trains and near-empty stations. What hasn’t changed? The fare evaders riding the system for free.

Three weeks into the Bay Area shutdown, and BART’s two morning sweeps at San Francisco’s Embarcadero Station were pulling an average of 238 fare evaders a day off the morning-commute trains. Many of those ejected for not having a ticket were homeless or apparently mentally ill, BART officials said.

“And some are riding the system all day as a shelter,” BART Police Chief Ed Alvarez said.

BART had 24,909 riders on Monday, far below the 405,000 average daily ridership before the nine-county order went out for all nonessential Bay Area workers to stay at home.

“You might have thought that a 93% reduction in riders would have meant a reduction in fare evaders as well, but that hasn’t been the case,” BART Director Debora Allen said. She added that the people who jump the gates aren’t just cheats, they are potential health hazards to the other riders and to themselves . . . .
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...t-15185631.php

chris08876 Apr 8, 2020 7:18 PM

Today's Conference - Cuomo; 4-8-2020

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mrnyc Apr 8, 2020 9:19 PM

ohio officially relaxed the rules and joins the booze to go with food orders brigade:

i heard it was already happening informally though lol.

https://www.the-review.com/news/2020...emplate=ampart

jtown,man Apr 8, 2020 9:21 PM

Chicago needs to open up the lakefront trail.

Within 15 seconds at an intersection, while biking, I witnessed 12 motorcycles blowing a red light running from a cop(Roosevelt and Wabash) and then about 7 teens blow the light right after them on bikes so I went ahead and went forward. One of the teens decided to yell out that I am a f*ggot.

We need safe places to bike. Period.

Pedestrian Apr 8, 2020 9:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jtown,man (Post 8888291)
Chicago needs to open up the lakefront trail.

Within 15 seconds at an intersection, while biking, I witnessed 12 motorcycles blowing a red light running from a cop(Roosevelt and Wabash) and then about 7 teens blow the light right after them on bikes so I went ahead and went forward. One of the teens decided to yell out that I am a f*ggot.

We need safe places to bike. Period.

Don't worry. Darwin has a way of being right. I hear the dinosaurs called the lttle mammals "f*ggot".

jtown,man Apr 8, 2020 9:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8888305)
Don't worry. Darwin has a way of being right. I hear the dinosaurs called the lttle mammals "f*ggot".

lol

I couldn't believe it, definitely since they looked like they were in the 14-16-year-old range. I thought those kids were more "enlightened" than people from my generation!?

HurricaneHugo Apr 8, 2020 10:14 PM

I wonder if this pandemic will have a lasting effect on population density

Will people move out from big dense cities to the suburbs?

jtown,man Apr 8, 2020 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 8888351)
I wonder if this pandemic will have a lasting effect on population density

Will people move out from big dense cities to the suburbs?

I mean, people are irrational. But it doesn't seem other health concerns impact people much...such as our eating habits.


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