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CityBoyDoug Jan 11, 2014 3:07 AM

Please call the Cecil Hotel ....thanks.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6402323)
This is just east of Prairie Avenue, on the south side of Century, across the street from Hollywood Park, on January 5, 1963:

It actually looks a bit scary:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original
Photo by me

I was thinking of checking this place out but then I read this review. [This post Mr. Wedge, is no reflection upon your good self, to whom I extend my hand in friendship.]

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Rev...a.html#REVIEWS

“HORRIBLE MESS”

""1 of 5 stars Reviewed November 10, 2012

This motel is a night-mare... they should close it down... the health department need to come in and look how they have people living. Not all homeless people are on drugs... things happen in their life to were they just don't have any where to go.
There are drugs being dealt in the lobby(in front of or for management), transvestite prostitutes outside and inside... always looking to turn tricks. Then what is the sad the poor down and out families w/children are forced to try and live in this mess.""

I think I'll pass. The noirish Cecil Hotel downtown sounds better.:slob::D


Ninja55 Jan 11, 2014 3:18 AM

Thanks "Retired" and E_R. It's been awhile since I've posted anything and I have to get the hang of it again. A lot of my old posts were erased by accident and I will start reposting them for all the Bert Rovere and Joe Musso fans out there.

ethereal_reality Jan 11, 2014 4:07 AM

originally posted by sopas_ej, Tam O'Shanter Inn on los Felix Blvd., circa 1920s.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/542/mjvm.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5624529)
The Tam O'Shanter Inn was designed by none other than Harry Oliver, art director at the old Willat Studios. You might remember him from my earlier post last week on the Spadena House (or witch's house).


below: Harry Oliver designed this administration building (and dressing rooms) for Willat Studios in Culver City. Eventually the building was moved to Beverly Hills where it became know as the Spadena House.

http://a.imageshack.us/img72/5348/fa...udiosculve.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/D...wdate=&hidate=



below: A 1934 view of the Tam O'Shanter Inn with a very interesting sign. (note the archaic lightning bolt)
http://a.imageshack.us/img29/3764/sh...nn1934lapl.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=10237





http://a.imageshack.us/img192/9060/f...losfelizpc.jpg
http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Tam-O-...009_.htm?RDP=1




http://a.imageshack.us/img3/7778/fai...ter08byhar.jpg
http://themerica.org/




http://a.imageshack.us/img831/8927/f...anter1930s.jpg
http://themerica.org/




http://a.imageshack.us/img32/1384/fa...oshanter07.jpg
http://themerica.org/

above: That fireplace looks like a caricature of Richard Nixon. ;)



I just found a couple more images of the Tam O'Shanter.

-sepia postcard from 1938.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/59/k7gs.jpg
ebay



..and this fantastic image from the 1950s/60s that I found earlier tonight on ebay.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/198/fo08.jpg
They were still using that stylized lightning bolt on this 1950s era sign. (compare to the 1934 sign)

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ethereal_reality Jan 11, 2014 4:44 AM

Another vintage photograph that shows litter and weeds, not unlike the Bixel Street photo I posted earlier in the week.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/600/9kyf.jpgebay

I need some help in figuring out the location of this photo. The seller had no information other than Los Angeles.

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kznyc2k Jan 11, 2014 7:01 AM

Rainbow Pier in the 1940s...

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2140/2...88434b62_b.jpg

Full size can be found on its Flickr page

CityBoyDoug Jan 11, 2014 9:25 AM

City Codes....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6402602)
Another vintage photograph that shows litter and weeds, not unlike the Bixel Street photo I posted earlier in the week.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/600/9kyf.jpgebay

I need some help in figuring out the location of this photo. The seller had no information other than Los Angeles.

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I believe its the property owners responsibility to keep their property clean.

There are LA City Codes that cover this.

Tourmaline Jan 11, 2014 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6402602)
Another vintage photograph that shows litter and weeds, not unlike the Bixel Street photo I posted earlier in the week.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/600/9kyf.jpgebay

I need some help in figuring out the location of this photo. The seller had no information other than Los Angeles.

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But for the proximity of the hills, the scene reminds me of a northern view of Larchmont and Melrose. (See below)

However, because of the hills, I would not be surprised if the intersection was connected with either Franklin or Yucca Streets, before the Hollywood Freeway. Other possibilities include Franklin in the Los Feliz area.


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2046


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5284/...50b819d3_b.jpg

HossC Jan 11, 2014 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6402567)
originally posted by sopas_ej, Tam O'Shanter Inn on los Felix Blvd., circa 1920s.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/542/mjvm.jpg

I don't think we've seen this photo before. It shows the Tam O'Shanter during its brief time as Montogomery's Chanticleer Inn.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...anticleer1.jpg
Ebay

I found this bit of history on the Friends of Atwater Village site:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...anticleer2.jpg
friendsofatwatervillage.org (PDF file)

MartinTurnbull Jan 11, 2014 3:31 PM

Here's another shot I just came across. This is the house where Clark Gable lived with Carole Lombard at 4543 Tara Drive in Encino (although when they moved in, the official address was 4525 Petit Drive. I didn't realize house addresses were ever changed that drastically.) They bought it in 1939 just before they got married, and the tabloids quickly labeled it “The House of Two Gables” which I thought was kind of clever. I also think it looks rather homey and welcoming, especially for a pair of actors as famous as these two were at the time

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/600/vi4j.jpg

unihikid Jan 11, 2014 3:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6402741)
But for the proximity of the hills, the scene reminds me of a northern view of Larchmont and Melrose. (See below)

However, because of the hills, I would not be surprised if the intersection was connected with either Franklin or Yucca Streets, before the Hollywood Freeway. Other possibilities include Franklin in the Los Feliz area.


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2046


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5284/...50b819d3_b.jpg

with the mountains so close(from what it looks like) i was thinking santa monica blvd...and with the hill slope im thinking somewhere like at spaulding or something east of fairfax.

Lorendoc Jan 11, 2014 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 6402835)
with the mountains so close(from what it looks like) i was thinking santa monica blvd...and with the hill slope im thinking somewhere like at spaulding or something east of fairfax.

Totally agree with you, Unihikid. Am feeling West Hollywood; large apartment building in middle distance is a clue. Another is the fact that the N-S street T-bones into the commercial boulevard. The shoe store and cleaners are on the north side of a commercial boulevard - 3rd, Beverly, Melrose, Santa Monica...Do any of the car experts have a date for the four parked cars? That could make it easier to pick the right city directory to search for shoe stores that were near cleaners.

Earl Boebert Jan 11, 2014 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 6403160)
Totally agree with you, Unihikid. Am feeling West Hollywood; large apartment building in middle distance is a clue. Another is the fact that the N-S street T-bones into the commercial boulevard. The shoe store and cleaners are on the north side of a commercial boulevard - 3rd, Beverly, Melrose, Santa Monica...Do any of the car experts have a date for the four parked cars? That could make it easier to pick the right city directory to search for shoe stores that were near cleaners.

My guess on the one on the right is a 1939 or 1940 Chevrolet Master 85 Sedan Delivery. Which would make sense for a cleaning establishment.

Cheers,

Earl

HossC Jan 12, 2014 1:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6402602)
Another vintage photograph that shows litter and weeds, not unlike the Bixel Street photo I posted earlier in the week.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/600/9kyf.jpgebay

I need some help in figuring out the location of this photo. The seller had no information other than Los Angeles.

I think the apartment building above the word "Ladies" is the Hacienda Arms aka. Coronet Apartments/Piazza del Sol on Sunset Boulevard. That dates the photo to after 1927.

Although the Hacienda Arms building is not visible in the picture below, the view of the mountains is very similar to the one above. It was taken on Croft Avenue looking north toward Santa Monica Boulevard in 1927.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Boulevard1.jpg
USC Digital Library

Here's part of a 1931 aerial looking northeast over Santa Monica Boulevard. The Hacienda Arms is near the top left, and the Bekins Storage building from the picture above is just right of center. Going by the angle of the mountains in the previous picture, my guess is that the shoe store and cleaners were a little east of the Bekins building on Santa Monica Boulevard.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Boulevard2.jpg
USC Digital Library

FredH Jan 12, 2014 2:53 AM

The caption says: Old retaining walls and stairs that used to lead up to the Moorcliff apartment building, 121 South Hill Street, on Bunker Hill.

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/10...0/822/rchx.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/6281/rec/24

Have we seen the Moorcliff Apartments before? I don't recall.


Consider this: Noirish Los Angeles is up to 941 pages. I have counted the photos on a number of pages and I feel that an average of 20 photos per page is a fairly
conservative estimate. That means that we are closing in on an astounding 19,000 photos on the entire thread!

So, take it easy on me next time I post a photo we've seen before :bash:

Krell58 Jan 12, 2014 3:12 AM

You can see the retaining walls and stairs for the Moorcliff Apartments in the first 50 seconds
of this LA Noire gameplay video I made. :D

Video Link

FredH Jan 12, 2014 3:14 AM

Thanks Krell58 - That was fast!


Nice color photo of Angels Flight Pharmacy:

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/996x517q90/5/igqx.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/6288/rec/25

ER - They have a roof sign!

Martin Pal Jan 12, 2014 3:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6403288)
Although the Hacienda Arms building is not visible in the picture below, the view of the mountains is very similar to the one above. It was taken on Croft Avenue looking north toward Santa Monica Boulevard in 1927.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Boulevard1.jpg
USC Digital Library

Wow, that's a photo I've never seen before. HossC thanks for posting it. I walk by this location quite frequently.

You say the photo is from 1927. To my eye, that vacant lot space across Santa Monica Blvd. is where Barney's Beanery should be/will be.

From wikipedia: Barney's Beanery […] was originally founded in 1920 in Berkeley, California, by John "Barney" Anthony, who in 1927 moved it to U.S. Route 66, now Santa Monica Boulevard, (State Route 2) in West Hollywood.

Also, in the above photo, check the street to the left of the car on Santa Monica and you can see how steep the road is. (The street is Olive Dr.)

In the aerial below, that street and the roads leading up to Sunset don't look that steep at all. Just wondering why that is and if all aerial photos tend to do that?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Boulevard2.jpg
USC Digital Library

SIDEBAR: At the top of Olive Dr. at Sunset is the location of the future Ciro's (1940) and presently is The Comedy Store.

FredH Jan 12, 2014 3:36 AM

1963 - The old Elk's Lodge, now the Royal Hotel (in blue!)

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/10...0/690/mr8r.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/6294/rec/29

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/52...0/854/d57x.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/6294/rec/29

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/27...0/543/xog2.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/6294/rec/29

Angels Flight - Olive Street Station

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/10...90/17/dz4h.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/6294/rec/29

FredH Jan 12, 2014 3:55 AM

1957 - Grand Central Hotel on Main Street ready to be torn down:

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/97...0/802/t4wu.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6158/rec/3


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/89...0/801/gujk.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6208/rec/9

Lorendoc Jan 12, 2014 9:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6402602)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/600/9kyf.jpgebay
e_r wrote:
I need some help in figuring out the location of this photo. The seller had no information other than Los Angeles.
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With help from Unihikid, HossC, and Earl B, car-identifier first class, I think we can be confident that the picture was taken looking north on Orlando towards Santa Monica Blvd. in West Hollywood about 1941.

First, the identification of the now Piazza del Sol up on Sunset (which is blocked by a higher structure on the south side of Sunset today) can be confirmed by looking at the following pair:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/9/bu2m.jpg

and

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/853/tysd.jpg

Since the cars look like they're from about 1940, I looked at the 1942 LA city directory in search of cleaners. There were pages and pages of them. I found Joseph Markowitz cleaning clothes at 8407 Santa Monica Boulevard.

Referring to the following Sanborn excerpt (from 10 years later - the shoe/clothing store seems to have gone out of business), we can see how Orlando dead-ends onto Santa Monica, referencing the street numbers on the north side of Santa Monica Boulevard:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/194/a9rf.jpg

The shoe/clothing store is now shown as a "furnishing" store (or "furniture" store).

One of the best things about this thread is how people with different strengths and interests collaborate to solve these little mysteries that e_r strews around.


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