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ethereal_reality Jun 12, 2012 12:06 AM

File this one under 'Modern Noir'.


http://imageshack.us/a/img194/3222/aalungsnoir.jpg
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/poss...-l-a-sidewalk/

esotouric Jun 12, 2012 1:12 AM

From the George Mann Archives: Lost gems of the Sunset Strip
 
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8146/7...daab14cbf4.jpg

Winter, 1953: George Mann, towering ex-Vaudevillian, lugs his 3-D photo gear up to the Sunset Strip and in addition to documenting such celebrated haunts as Ciro's and The Mocambo, snaps what may be the only known photographs of the sexiest neon sign ever to shine above noirish Los Angeles. Much more at the link.

Los Angeles Past Jun 12, 2012 2:08 AM

Hi you guys.

I'm still sorry about what happened back at New Years. I just felt like I'd ruined everything and I had to go away.

I'm also sorry about the deletions. I can restore my old postings if you'd like. I archived everything before I left, from page 1 on. Some of my picture links may be broken, but those can be fixed, too, in time. The photos I posted are all still on my hosting. I didn't delete any of those.

If 3940dxer would like to have the first 287 complete original html pages for his own archive, I'd be happy to give them to him. I hope that will help to make amends.

-Scott

GaylordWilshire Jun 12, 2012 2:24 AM

:previous:

Welcome back, Scott. "Los Angeles Past" was one of the first blogs I ran across when my L.A. obsession swung into high gear, and it was an inspiration. Sorry for the skirmish here--it certainly never seemed as though it was your fault, but rather the result of the passions all we real and faux Angelenos possess in pursuit of... Los Angeles past. Anyway what's noir without some melodrama?

fhammon Jun 12, 2012 2:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Los Angeles Past (Post 5730787)
Hi you guys.

I'm still sorry about what happened back at New Years....

Good news Scott because I've just used your site as a (credited) photo source :) and have been enjoying your work very much since E_R posted the link.

Here 'tis again:

http://losangelespast.blogspot.com/

As to getting along... I just think of us as children playing in a (historical) sandbox. You just have to watch out for the occasional catshit. It always turns up and it's nobody's fault really.
Sometimes it's hard to even recognize what it is at first.
Blame it on the cat.

3940dxer Jun 12, 2012 3:58 AM

:previous:

Scott, thanks for your post, it's good to see you here again. I too felt bad about what happened.

Before you left I noticed dead links here and there (from several posters) and had fleeting thoughts about saving everything, just in case. After your pictures went away I realized how fragile the thread really is, and really felt compelled to archive it. ("You don't know what you've got till it's gone".)

If you would restore your images here, I will be very happy. You had posted a lot of great material, and it would be great to have it back. For new readers it would be a big plus. Actually, I'd like to look at them again myself; it would be a good reason to go back and re-discover those earlier pages.

And I'd like to take you up on your offer of the 1-278 archive. I'll PM you about that.

Thanks again...David

3940dxer Jun 12, 2012 4:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5729656)

If anyone wonders why I disappear 3 or 4 days in a row....it's because my elderly father is battling bone cancer in Illinois
so I try to be there for him and my mom.

You can't imagine how wonderful it is for me to return to my computer here in Lafayette
and find all these amazing posts on 'noirish Los Angeles'. Thank you everyone!

___

e_r, I'm sorry to hear about your father's illness. I know you mentioned this before and I'd been wondering how he was faring. I know how hard this can be. Sincere best wishes for your father and props to you for helping them. As Woody Allen said, "90% of life is just showing up."

Los Angeles Past Jun 12, 2012 5:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5730907)
:previous:

Scott, thanks for your post, it's good to see you here again. I too felt bad about what happened.

Before you left I noticed dead links here and there (from several posters) and had fleeting thoughts about saving everything, just in case. After your pictures went away I realized how fragile the thread really is, and really felt compelled to archive it. ("You don't know what you've got till it's gone".)

If you would restore your images here, I will be very happy. You had posted a lot of great material, and it would be great to have it back. For new readers it would be a big plus. Actually, I'd like to look at them again myself; it would be a good reason to go back and re-discover those earlier pages.

And I'd like to take you up on your offer of the 1-278 archive. I'll PM you about that.

Thanks again...David

Drat. My archive file for page 20 isn't working. I'll have to de-bug that. Anyway, page 21 has now been restored. (And 22 now.) I can already tell this is all going to take awhile, though, so I do ask everyone's patience. As for me, I look upon this task as my penance. However, as penance should, it does feel good when it's done. :)

EDIT: Page 20 restored, re-coded by hand. *whew* I think that's enough for one night. Time for bed. :goodnight:

MichaelRyerson Jun 12, 2012 9:55 AM

Wow. That would be very cool. It may be somewhat daunting but it is well worth it. Welcome back.

fhammon Jun 12, 2012 10:37 AM

BTW
Not to bring up old wounds, but my wife and I were enjoying a Sunday afternoon in San Pedro this last weekend, me having a Cerveza Grande or two down at the Warf and another at the old 1887 Point Ferman lighthouse nearby biker's grill, after which I conned my wife into driving me to the Redondo Beach pier for more of the same. We took PCH north and me being a passenger (for once), I noticed when we passed by an inland "wetland" preserve of some kind. I believe it to be the slough in question but looking more like parkland. Upon old and new map comparisons I see it is now a golf course, complete with a lake and drainage system. I don't recall the name of it but it's sure to allow people of all races, colors and creeds to play thru and traverse it's greens.
It didn't start with an "N" anyway. This much I remember even in my semi-inebriated state.
I am somewhat but not completely aware of it's history and would freely and happily discuss it with anybody.

Los Angeles Past Jun 12, 2012 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5731095)
Wow. That would be very cool. It may be somewhat daunting but it is well worth it. Welcome back.

*smiles* Can't sleep when I've got a job to do. :D

I re-did pages 20-22 earlier; now, all of my text, photos and links on pages 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32 have been restored.

Now I really DO have to sleep! :slob:

-Scott

MichaelRyerson Jun 12, 2012 12:05 PM

Did someone mention San Pedro?
 
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7225/7...2fdb5699_c.jpg
1905_SanPedroFireDeptCityHall_02b

San Pedro's finest pose in front of their new City Hall with headquarters for the fire and police departments. City Jail in last entry on the left. image from mysanpedro


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8017/7...d3c4e76f_c.jpg
City Hall Market, San Pedro

Now one might stop in and pick up a brewski for the drive home. The Alhambra, reputedly the oldest bar still operating in San Pedro occupies the old city jail entrance. Rumor has it the jail cells lurk in the abandoned basement behind a bricked in stairwell. image from googlestreetviews.

MichaelRyerson Jun 12, 2012 1:50 PM

Question.
 
How big is too big? I have some images in the 1mb to 1.5mb range that I would post with appropriate physical sizing considerations but would the resolution still pose a problem??

Los Angeles Past Jun 12, 2012 2:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5730805)
:previous:

Welcome back, Scott. "Los Angeles Past" was one of the first blogs I ran across when my L.A. obsession swung into high gear, and it was an inspiration. Sorry for the skirmish here--it certainly never seemed as though it was your fault, but rather the result of the passions all we real and faux Angelenos possess in pursuit of... Los Angeles past. Anyway what's noir without some melodrama?

You've been busy while I was away – here, and on Blogger! Keep up the good work, my friend. You're a true gentleman and a scholar.

-S

Los Angeles Past Jun 12, 2012 5:11 PM

Whoops. Wrong button. :rolleyes:

Restored through page 140 as of now.

MichaelRyerson Jun 12, 2012 6:26 PM

Krotona: The Hollywood Years
 
Following the stormy yet ultimately successful establishment of a Theosophist's community at Point Loma in San Diego, Albert P. Warrington spied a little slice of heaven in Hollywood just west of Beachwood Canyon and a long block north of Franklin. He called it Krotona. Much of it is still there.


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7095/7...2efd075e_c.jpg
clausens-ranch-4 circa1895

Clausen's ranch including Krotona hill.



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7079/7...6bc0f127_c.jpg
krotonamap

Apparently, in the Theosophist's view, elevation is an important consideration. image from underthehollywoodsign.files.wordpress.com


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Krotona Court, with the completed Temple of the Rosy Cross to the southwest

Krotona Court, with the completed Temple of the Rosy Cross to the southeast.
2130 Vista del Mar. These buildings have all been converted into apartments with balconies added to the north face of the 'Temple'. image from A SURVEY OF SURVIVING BUILDINGS OF
THE KROTONA COLONY IN HOLLYWOOD at Architronic


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8146/7...c328b5358e.jpg
Krotonans sit in rapt attention

An early audience thought to be listening to Augustus Knudsen.Interesting in that it is clearly a largely female, multi-cultural and multi-racial group. About 1913. image from A SURVEY OF SURVIVING BUILDINGS OF
THE KROTONA COLONY IN HOLLYWOOD at Architronic


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5160/7...95b6b8d423.jpg
Knudsen File

Mr and Mrs. A. F. Knudsen, 2117 Vista del Mar Av, Hollywood..Stamped: Mead & Requa Architects, 533 F. St. San Francisco, Calif. image from underthehollywoodsign


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5200/7...774d9672a7.jpg
P3250.239 Knudsen AFK

Augustus Knudsen at the rear of his house. image from underthehollywoodsign


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H.H.Shutts house, 2136 Primrose Avenue

One of the remaining original Krotona villas. image from A SURVEY OF SURVIVING BUILDINGS OF THE KROTONA COLONY IN HOLLYWOOD at Architronics


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7081/7...56872ccc_z.jpg
Krotona 1919, 6206 Temple Hill Drive

6206 Temple Hill Drive, private residence, mature plantings make it difficult to see from the street.


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8005/7...66a81066_c.jpg
Krotona Inn and Grand Temple of the Rosy Cross circa1914

2130 Vista del Mar, both buildings have been converted to apartments with balconies added to the north face of the 'Grand Temple'. image from A SURVEY OF SURVIVING BUILDINGS OF THE KROTONA COLONY IN HOLLYWOOD at Architronics


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7105/7...e1600bf367.jpg
krotona inn

Krotona Inn, interior courtyard arcade with batchelder tiles throughout.


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Moorcrest, 6147 Temple Hill Drive

First occupied by Charlie Chaplin and then by Mary Astor and her parents. image from A SURVEY OF SURVIVING BUILDINGS OF
THE KROTONA COLONY IN HOLLYWOOD at Architronics


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7105/7...15f64d69_c.jpg
Mary Astor relaxes with script

Mary Astor relaxes with script
a script?



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8011/7...f5c10827_z.jpg
christine-wetherill-stevenson-1921

Christine Wetherill Stevenson lived and studied at Krotona. She was a central figure in establishing the Hollywood Bowl and subsequently the Pilgimage Play Theater, now the John Anson Ford Theater.
image from hollywoodbowl.com


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7242/7...4b7d809093.jpg
Italian Gardens at Krotona

Fab Fifties Fan Jun 12, 2012 9:11 PM

Welcome back Scott!

I have missed my fellow "old Pasadena" department store wild child!!!:ohyeah

~Jon Paul

ethereal_reality Jun 12, 2012 10:07 PM

Scott, your return to 'noirish Los Angeles' is the best news I've had in a long long time. :)

-Bruce

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ethereal_reality Jun 12, 2012 10:39 PM

Wonderful post on the Krotona Colony MichaelRyerson.

Here are a couple more images.

http://imageshack.us/a/img135/3230/a...nyhollywoo.jpg
http://krotonacolony.blogspot.com/



http://imageshack.us/a/img213/9936/aakrontonasign.jpg
http://krotonacolony.blogspot.com/



Go to the link below and read about this blogger's 'accidental' tour of Krotona. It's a charming piece of writing.

http://krotonacolony.blogspot.com/20...osy-cross.html

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3940dxer Jun 12, 2012 10:42 PM

Scott, thanks a million for restoring all those pages. I've just viewed a few of them so far, but I know that you've posted a ton of great stuff, especially on DTLA. Your commentary is very valuable too. Glad you came back!


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