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HossC Sep 4, 2014 4:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6716532)

Tourmaline, I've avoided naming fellow NLAers in previous posts about missing images, and I didn't want to single anyone out, but you've provided
a great example of hotlinked image which will disappear within a matter of weeks.

For anyone thinking of hotlinking images - please use an image hosting service such as ImageShack, Photobucket, Flickr etc. Feel free to ask any
questions regarding posting images using one of these sites.

In an attempt to preserve the image, I've added it to my Photobucket account (after some tweaking!).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ollTheatre.jpg
Original from eBay

jg6544 Sep 4, 2014 5:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TangoJuliet (Post 6716126)
As a full-on roadgeek, this post about made me faint. I love signage and these are absolute gold. Thanks for posting.

Traffic was already a god-awful mess in 1960!

HossC Sep 4, 2014 5:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6716573)

By the way, in lightening the onbunkerhill image of the Castle Tower could you make a pass at lightening the little structure at the left? I'm pretty sure that's the Hildreth carriage house. I'd be deeply indebted if you could tease out any detail of it. Thanks, in advance.

There's virtually no contrast on that side of the image, but I've lightened it a little. I can't really make out any detail on the carriage house, but it does show the zig-zag at the top of the stairs as they reach the 4th Street stub.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...leTowers2a.jpg

A footnote below the image says "Postcard from the personal collection of Christina Rice." As Christina Rice is one of the editors of 'On Bunker Hill', maybe you could try contacting her for a better scan.

CityBoyDoug Sep 4, 2014 6:44 PM

Signs to nowhere...
 
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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6716625)
I took the Googlemobile out for a spin earlier, and found this Bakersfield sign on E Alameda Avenue in Burbank.
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...fieldSign3.jpg
GSV

I'm surprised that the sign above does not read : Vancouver.......:D:D:D

MichaelRyerson Sep 4, 2014 7:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6716785)
There's virtually no contrast on that side of the image, but I've lightened it a little. I can't really make out any detail on the carriage house, but it does show the zig-zag at the top of the stairs as they reach the 4th Street stub.
A footnote below the image says "Postcard from the personal collection of Christina Rice." As Christina Rice is one of the editors of 'On Bunker Hill', maybe you could try contacting her for a better scan.

Thanks for the effort Hoss. I appreciate it. At a minimum, we gained the slight trace of the stairs and can assume Margrethe Mather, Roy Rosen, maybe even Weston and the Zahn kids perhaps scaled them. I'm going to drop Christina Rice a note. Thanks again.

gsjansen Sep 4, 2014 7:53 PM

Screen Caps from the 1950 Noir Flick Backfire.
 
Warner brothers released this in 1950, but was actually filmed in 1947.

Amazing scenes of Olive and 4th street are to be had in this Gordon Macrae vehicle.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5566/...f038e0b9_b.jpgWP_20140901_001 by gsjansen, GSJ on Flickr
Looking South on Olive from the NE corner of 4th


https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3836/...ecf5a006_b.jpgWP_20140901_007 by gsjansen,GSJ on Flickr
Gordon Macrae hails a taxi outside the Fremont Hotel


https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5591/...918288d7_b.jpgWP_20140901_006 by gsjansenGSJ on Flickr
Savoy Garage Across from the Fremont Hotel, SE corner Olive and 4th


https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5586/...c5082ceb_b.jpgWP_20140901_005 by gsjansen, GSJ on Flickr
Fremont Hotel, SW corner 4th and Olive


https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3871/...4ba7110b_b.jpgWP_20140901_004 by gsjansen, GSJ on Flickr
Close-up of the entry steps to the Fremont Hotel


http://jpg1.lapl.org/spnb01/00007222.jpg
Fremont in the day - LAPL


http://jpg2.lapl.org/spnb2/00017573.jpg
Savoy Garage viewed across the demolished Fremont Hotel 1966 - LAPL


http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics20/00029824.jpg
Looking west on 4th across Olive. 1956. The old pedestal steps of the Fremont Hotel - LAPL

Thank you HossC for showing me the way to post from my flckr account. Between the last time I posted from my account, and now, an additional step has been added. Once again, Thank you so much HossC for helping me out!

gsjansen Sep 4, 2014 8:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6713747)
This HDL image was taken from across the Harbor Freeway on January 16th, 1955.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eetCut1955.jpg
Huntington Digital Library

Oh My Gawd!!! this photograph is off the scales!!! I had never seen it before. incredible!

Great find HossC! mesmerizing............

gsjansen Sep 4, 2014 8:33 PM

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eetCut1955.jpg

I just realized the white building in the photo is the Zelda........this is indeed a monumental incredible photograph!

Thank you once again HossC for posting this. This photograph is amazing on so many levels.............(more scrutiny to follow i'm sure!)

MichaelRyerson Sep 4, 2014 8:57 PM

[QUOTE=gsjansen;6717068
I just realized the white building in the photo is the Zelda........this is indeed a monumental incredible photograph!

Thank you once again HossC for posting this. This photograph is amazing on so many levels.............(more scrutiny to follow i'm sure!)[/QUOTE]

No, it's the back of the Barbara Worth (Briggs). The Zelda is gone by 1955.

Beaudry Sep 4, 2014 9:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6716470)


..here's the Hotel Sherman at far right, also dated 1915.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/smw3LF.jpg

"Victorian houses converted into businesses are sandwiched between the Hotel Leroy on the right and the Hotel Sherman, corner 4th and Hill, on the left.
The Los Angeles Water Dept. is to the right of the Hotel Leroy. In the background is the Grant Building. This later became the site of the Hotel Clark."
-LAPL

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Fascinating stuff about the "fanciful" postcard where they've modernized The Sherman!

Here's the 1913 Clark dropped onto those poor things:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4139/...9ecbd49b_o.jpg

You can see the Sherman on the far left. I'd like to mention the Sherman (built as the Johnson Bldg #5 [Hotel Clarendon], 1896, demolished 1946) was Robert Brown Young; and the Hotel Leroy (Steinhart Block, 1897), at the right in E-R's LAPL image, was RB Young as well. The Leroy was contiguous to the Occidental hotel (Wilson #6, 1898) also RB Young!

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4120/...0a66cab7_o.jpg

The Occidental is replaced by this Walker & Eisen in 1936 -- and down the street, note that the Sherman still has her original '90s roofline:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4134/...4aa32b8639.jpgclark images from flickr

One last shot of Young's Oxy, showing a bit of Young's Leroy to the left:

http://waterandpower.org/A%20Histori...Hotel_1910.jpgdwp

loyalton Sep 4, 2014 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SHERIFFPAUL (Post 6716588)
The look on their face appears to be that of sadness.

Essentially nobody smiled for photos before the 1890s. Aside from those wanting to project an air of formality when posing for a picture, subjects had to remain stock still due to long exposure times plus time for the photographer to focus and fiddle. You will find more photos from this era and earlier with people stiffly posed while trying too hard to stay still.

gsjansen Sep 4, 2014 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6717126)
No, it's the back of the Barbara Worth (Briggs). The Zelda is gone by 1955.

Howdy MichaelR....you could be right, but to tell you the truth, there are so few images of the Zelda that I have seen, and the bible of images for bunker hill , (OnBunkerHill.org), shows this particular one as being the Zelda.....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3181/...c499803f_o.gif

Looks purty much like the white building in the photo posted by HossC.......(not to mention it being in the right place...........

but hey, I stink at cards, and am usually more wrong than I have been right.............

ethereal_reality Sep 4, 2014 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FredH (Post 6387628)

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The only give-away that this is the same building are the cartouches that have survived. (I've circled the two framing the front entrance)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/742/rCIFbM.jpg
cdm6003



Here's the interior of the store taken on the same day in 1941.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/631/199f09.jpg
cdm6004

...the last thing this shop needed was a patterned Linoleum floor.

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ethereal_reality Sep 4, 2014 11:18 PM

anyone recognize this fire-damaged Victorian?

-no address (undated)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/yJ9KaE.jpg
old file of mine/possibly ebay

I can barely make out the numbers on the ROOMS sign...is it 1337?

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so-cal-bear Sep 4, 2014 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6717316)
The only give-away that this is the same building are the cartouches that have survived. (I've circled the two framing the front entrance))

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/742/rCIFbM.jpg
cdm6003
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. . . . Man! I'll take 12 cases of that 12 year old .59¢ whiskey advertised on the side billboard! It's medicinal :cheers:

MichaelRyerson Sep 4, 2014 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 6717281)
Howdy MichaelR....you could be right, but to tell you the truth, there are so few images of the Zelda that I have seen, and the bible of images for bunker hill , (OnBunkerHill.org), shows this particular one as being the Zelda.....

Looks purty much like the white building in the photo posted by HossC.......(not to mention it being in the right place...........

but hey, I stink at cards, and am usually more wrong than I have been right.............

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3835/...87bb754e_o.jpg4th Street cut from west side of the freeway, January 16, 1955

What street do you think this building is on? Would you agree the Stuart K. Oliver house is roughly parallel to this building, hence likely on the same street? The Zelda was on Grand Avenue. What street do you think we're looking at here? If you want to fish around in my photo-stream, search 'Zelda' you'll find maybe twenty images of the Zelda or of the vacant lot after the 4th Street cut wiped it clean. Just sayin'

ethereal_reality Sep 4, 2014 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 6717000)
Warner brothers released this in 1950, but was actually filmed in 1947.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5566/...f038e0b9_b.jpgWP_20140901_001 by gsjansen, GSJ on Flickr

Very interesting screen grabs of Backfire gsjansen. -so glad you figured out that last stumbling block on flickr.

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CityBoyDoug Sep 5, 2014 1:14 AM

Smile..you're on Candid........
 
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Originally Posted by loyalton (Post 6717278)
Essentially nobody smiled for photos before the 1890s. Aside from those wanting to project an air of formality when posing for a picture, subjects had to remain stock still due to long exposure times plus time for the photographer to focus and fiddle. You will find more photos from this era and earlier with people stiffly posed while trying too hard to stay still.

Most individuals simply didn’t want to be immortalized for all of history with a goofy grin on their faces. Mark Twain summed it up best when he said, “A photograph is a most important document, and there is nothing more damning to go down to posterity than a silly, foolish smile caught and fixed forever.”

According to Nicholas Jeeves, who wrote an extensive article on the topic, by the 17th century “it was a well-established fact that the only people who smiled broadly, in life and in art, were the poor, the lewd, the drunk, the innocent, and the entertainment people.”

Another reason is that if you believed in the Bible, you were sober and serious.....and smiling was the opposite of that.

HossC Sep 5, 2014 1:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6717316)

The only give-away that this is the same building are the cartouches that have survived. (I've circled the two framing the front entrance)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/742/rCIFbM.jpg
cdm6003

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Originally Posted by so-cal-bear (Post 6717332)
. . . . Man! I'll take 12 cases of that 12 year old .59¢ whiskey advertised on the side billboard! It's medicinal :cheers:

Sorry to disappoint you, so-cal-bear, but if you look closely, the whiskey is 12 months old! You could get always some 18-month-old whiskey for 79¢ plus tax :).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eMatchbook.jpg
eBay

Hollywood Graham Sep 5, 2014 1:25 AM

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Originally Posted by so-cal-bear (Post 6717332)
. . . . Man! I'll take 12 cases of that 12 year old .59¢ whiskey advertised on the side billboard! It's medicinal :cheers:

I think it is 12 months old (if that)........


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