They might be able to find the floorplates necessary in HY. Especially at 30 HY, though I don't know the occupancy of that or if they want a more specialized building for it.
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^ The HY towers are full. Then there’s the issue of tenants. None of the current (or likely potential) tenants would want the chaos of a NYC casino in their building. A hotel is another matter, and would be best for a casino.
They could have put one on the pier (behind Javits), but that’s a park now. The larger of the 2 sites the state owns in HY would be a good location, next to the Javits. But they likely want housing there. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/02/n...n-nyc.amp.html 5 Things to Know About Casinos That May Be Headed for the N.Y.C. Area Yonkers, Queens and maybe Manhattan: The sites for three new casinos have not yet been set in stone. By Dana Rubinstein May 2, 2022 Quote:
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Related wanted a casino/new MSG at Hudson Yards.
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Hudson Yards would be the best place because in addition to the casino there would also be room for a new MSG with an even larger arena than the one found in the current MSG. :)
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Coney Island yes, it would be perfect. Or Queens, with deep pocketed Mets ownership trying to build one near their stadium. But God no to this Hudson Yards II revision nightmare. Seriously, the vision of the other side of the yard as primarily residential, with all the nice new towers that would have shown more personality compared to the more conservative final vision of the first half of the development.. that would have balanced the Yards so well. Putting a huge casino there... just not really feeling it at all. Hope smarter heads prevail and this loses out, and a better Queens or Coney Island option prevails.
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^ Coney Island is at the top of my list, because the approvals for something like this are already there. And it would be open all the time, not just in the warmer months.
I’m not against the railyard proposal, especially if that would finally get that started. And any new casino in New York needs to be new construction, not retrofitted into an existing building. But the opposition to a casino is fiercest in Manhattan. The real problem is with the limitations on licenses. When you consider 2 of the 3 would likely go to existing operations in Queens and Yonkers, that’s basically one new casino. We should be able to get one in Coney, and another on the west side. No reason why a city like New York should be so limited. https://www.ny1.com/nyc/manhattan/po...itical-hurdles Proposed casino at Hudson Yards would face political hurdles By Bobby Cuza Manhattan Sep. 16, 2022 Quote:
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I actually think that Willetts Point is an ideal location for one if we must have them. Tear down the rest of the Iron Triangle and replace it with this.
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Interesting, so Related only intends to build the casino then on part of the site, with housing, schools and open space still a significant part of the development as well. We'll just have to wait and see what their in depth proposal is. Still much prefer a casino at Coney Island or Willets Point but hopefully the process will be a well thought one and may the best plan win!
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