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ithakas Sep 8, 2016 7:36 PM

CHICAGO | BMO Tower | 727 FT | 50 FLOORS
 
Winning Redevelopment Team:

Riverside Venture. architect: Goettsch Partners

http://kngkyle.com/uploads/210709.png

https://assets.dnainfo.com/photo/201...extralarge.jpg

https://assets.dnainfo.com/photo/201...extralarge.jpg

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Losing Redevelopment Teams:


- Sterling Bay. architect: Skidmore Owings & Merrill.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cr2uy83W8AAlFb1.jpg



- Golub. architect: Gensler.

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- JLL consortium. architect: Studio Gang and Pelli Clark Pelli.

no images available

emathias Sep 8, 2016 7:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithakas (Post 7554967)

I assume that would replace the parking garage? Where would they put the 600 spot replacement? Maybe at Jefferson/Vanburen?

Steely Dan Sep 8, 2016 7:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emathias (Post 7554982)
I assume that would replace the parking garage?

from the looks of the rendering, yes, that would be the only site that makes sense.

damn, sterling bay ain't fucking around!

when was the last SOM-designed office tower built in chicago? 1992's heller international building?

a quarter-century long drought could finally come to an end, and the design looks very promising!

Randomguy34 Sep 8, 2016 8:18 PM

I leave Skyscraperpage for just 2 hours, and all of this gets announced...

Also, that skyscraper planned for Union Station is giving me the "I, Robot" vibes. If Sterling Bay keeps up this momentum, then they're going to recreate the 2035 skyline

http://grantgauss.com/wp-content/upl...35-i-robot.jpg

the urban politician Sep 8, 2016 8:20 PM

^ Of course, Sterling Bay hasn't even been selected as the developer, let alone gone through all of the approvals, etc etc. So this is still quite a ways away

maru2501 Sep 8, 2016 8:57 PM

already being compared to london cheese grater on twitter

ithakas Sep 8, 2016 9:22 PM

Daytime picture of the proposal:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cr2uy83W8AAlFb1.jpg:large

Steely Dan Sep 8, 2016 9:23 PM

^ HOT DAMN!


yes please.

the urban politician Sep 8, 2016 9:23 PM

^ Dayum.

Even if they don't win the bidding, this proposal will force all of the other bidding developers to seriously up their game

BVictor1 Sep 8, 2016 9:25 PM

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/apps/...20160908153014


I'll take this over the proposal at Madison & Clinton.

The rendering reminds me a bit of what was proposed as a headquarters for BP a few years back.

The fact that this is west of the river, it'll make a hell of an impact on the skyline.

Via Chicago Sep 8, 2016 9:26 PM

build the dang cheese grater

seriously, i think i love this design more than any other thats been announced in the boom. will be tragic if theyre not chosen. finally something thats not a blue box.

ardecila Sep 8, 2016 9:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emathias (Post 7554982)
I assume that would replace the parking garage? Where would they put the 600 spot replacement? Maybe at Jefferson/Vanburen?

I read the article as a 500-space new parking garage in the Fulton Market area, not the Union Station area. It would provide parking for the various new office developments over there. Looks like not everyone wants to take the Green/Pink Lines or a shuttle to Metra. Anecdotally, it sounds like existing Fulton Market tenants like Google, SRAM, etc are frustrated, and potential tenants concerned, about a parking shortage in the area.

Separate from that, the Amtrak garage does need to be replaced by the master developer, but I imagine it would be integrated in the base of the new tower or ideally underground and combined with a pedway expansion. Amtrak needs parking for its own fleet of vehicles and they probably believe some parking is necessary for travelers, but they might accept something less than a 1:1 replacement of the lost spaces. The existing garage is almost never full...

ithakas Sep 8, 2016 9:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 7555179)
I read the article as a 500-space new parking garage in the Fulton Market area, not the Union Station area.

Is a multi-level parking garage qualified to be built in a PMD? I could see it going into the Fulton PMD land north of Coyne College somewhere, though I'm not sure I can think of an obvious spot for it south of Fulton.

I agree in hoping Amtrak replacement parking is built underground with a pedway. I also would love to see this tower be office/residential mixed-use to help give the area more life at night, though the design is great so I won't complain.

emathias Sep 8, 2016 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithakas (Post 7555187)
...
I agree in hoping Amtrak replacement parking is built underground with a pedway. I also would love to see this tower be office/residential mixed-use to help give the area more life at night, though the design is great so I won't complain.

The tower also seems to encroach on the just-opened bus turnaround for the Loop Link buses - I wonder if that's just the way it looks in this rendering, or if perhaps the bus area is integrated near the base. There is a pedway from that bus area to Union Station now under Jackson.

Union Station itself can be extended upward - I think up to 20 floors, IIRC, on the existing foundations. Last time they talked about doing that, it was for a hotel, which would bring a little evening activity.

jc5680 Sep 8, 2016 10:29 PM

Larger night shot from Crain's twitter


munchymunch Sep 8, 2016 10:38 PM

This thing is beautiful, and with Sterling behind it has a good chance. This definitely will make up for the 625 w Monroe proposal(?). This cycle will have some of the nicest additions to our skyline for at least the last 20 years if 130 and this can make it through. Fingers crossed.

TimeAgain Sep 8, 2016 10:42 PM

I really hope they're serious when they say they already have tenants lined up. BUILD IT!

rlw777 Sep 8, 2016 11:13 PM

Are those winter gardens every 14 floors up the north side of the building?
Build this now!

F1 Tommy Sep 8, 2016 11:19 PM

Looks amazing. Build it please and don't value engineer it to death.

Kngkyle Sep 9, 2016 12:11 AM

In the next 10-20 years Related Midwest, Sterling Bay, Magellan, and CMK are going to dramatically change the Chicago skyline like we haven't seen in decades. Those four developers account for so many billions of dollars of development it probably eclipses all others combined. What differentiates this boom from the last is the fact that all of the large scale projects are backed by established and competent development companies. They're not in the same league as the likes of Shelbourne or Teng. It looks like this boom is only just beginning and 2017 is going to be one hell of a year.

TSSTaylor Sep 9, 2016 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jc5680 (Post 7555239)
Larger night shot from Crain's twitter


Would love if this became a reality if they had the lighting just like that shining to the sky.

2PRUROCKS! Sep 9, 2016 12:20 AM

Now this is some serious awesomeness!

go go white sox Sep 9, 2016 12:40 AM

Very cool! Those comparing it to the cheese grater I don't see it. This thing is beautiful, elegant, and futuristic wow

The North One Sep 9, 2016 12:42 AM

HOLY SHIT! This looks sexy!

One of the best proposals we've seen in this country for a long time. It looks like it has indoor gardens.

DCReid Sep 9, 2016 12:54 AM

CHICAGO | Union Station Redevelopment | 958 FT
 
Sterling Bay is proposing a skyscraper connected to Union Station that would become one of the city's tallest, as the Chicago-based developer vies for the assignment to redevelop real estate owned by Amtrak.

The firm wants to build a 958-foot-tall, 2 million-square-foot office tower alongside the massive transit facility in the West Loop and is already in talks with tenants large enough to kick off the project, Sterling Bay Managing Director Andy Gloor said today...

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/reale...-union-station

Busy Bee Sep 9, 2016 1:12 AM

Wowza

munchymunch Sep 9, 2016 1:47 AM

Can we have the first post updated with pics and info?

Kngkyle Sep 9, 2016 2:08 AM

One piece from the article that hasn't been mentioned thus far is Bank of America being a potential anchor tenant. Apparently they are looking to consolidate their Chicago operations into one building. I would think they'd need easily more than a million sq ft for that. Perhaps one of our most in-the-know forumers would know the cumulative size of their ops here?

Mr Downtown Sep 9, 2016 3:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 7555389)
Dedicated thread for the new sterling bay union station tower proposal: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=224752

A dedicated thread for a proposal where the developer hasn't even put in a bid for the site yet? Isn't that a bit premature?

tjp Sep 9, 2016 3:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kngkyle (Post 7555410)
One piece from the article that hasn't been mentioned thus far is Bank of America being a potential anchor tenant. Apparently they are looking to consolidate their Chicago operations into one building. I would think they'd need easily more than a million sq ft for that. Perhaps one of our most in-the-know forumers would know the cumulative size of their ops here?


Have you heard anything about Bank of America related to this space, or just that they're looking to consolidate?

When I read Sterling Bay already had tenants lined up, I automatically thought Walgreens.

Kngkyle Sep 9, 2016 3:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tjp (Post 7555462)
Have you heard anything about Bank of America related to this space, or just that they're looking to consolidate?

When I read Sterling Bay already had tenants lined up, I automatically thought Walgreens.

From the Crains article:

Quote:

Gloor did not identify potential anchor tenants for its project. One tenant in the market that could potentially launch such a large project is Bank of America, which is believed to be considering consolidating workers now in several Chicago locations into one huge new space, according to real estate sources.

spyguy Sep 9, 2016 3:47 AM

Proportions are a little bit off in my mind (extend it over 1000', hint, hint). But overall, looks great and very unexpected. Prefer using the air-rights for a supertall like this rather than building something clunky on top of Union Station.

munchymunch Sep 9, 2016 4:08 AM

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Originally Posted by spyguy (Post 7555478)
Proportions are a little bit off in my mind (extend it over 1000', hint, hint). But overall, looks great and very unexpected. Prefer using the air-rights for a supertall like this rather than building something clunky on top of Union Station.

:tup:

Where did we get 57 floors from?

UPChicago Sep 9, 2016 4:12 AM

The atriums are the shit! LOVE IT....... BUILD IT NOW!


Reminds me of this
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/apps/...-130219807.jpg

HomrQT Sep 9, 2016 5:35 AM

Being right there at Union Station is a huge selling point for this project. Go big or go home!

HomrQT Sep 9, 2016 5:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Via Chicago (Post 7555147)
build the dang cheese grater

seriously, i think i love this design more than any other thats been announced in the boom. will be tragic if theyre not chosen. finally something thats not a blue box.

It's really not that far from being a 'blue box'.

Llemon Sep 9, 2016 5:46 AM

A quick and dirty model made with basic photogrammetry

Some dimensions are off by quite a bit, but I'll try and get everything right tomorrow.

http://i.imgur.com/S4XzDfm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Z2p0FTU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9Hpv5AL.jpg

link to album if the above embed pics dont work; http://imgur.com/a/7KL4w

denizen467 Sep 9, 2016 6:11 AM

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Originally Posted by UPChicago (Post 7555495)

This old proposal had the slope and atriums on the south side.

Today's Sterling Bay render has the slope and apparent atriums on the north side.

I'd have figured only one of those should make sense, based on hvac costs, or sunlight needs of plants, etc. What's going on here I wonder.

Randomguy34 Sep 9, 2016 7:13 AM

Ooo, now I wonder what the view from Adler Planetarium will look like with this, Wanda Vista, Vinoly Tower, and 1000 S Michigan

Mister Uptempo Sep 9, 2016 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emathias (Post 7555228)
The tower also seems to encroach on the just-opened bus turnaround for the Loop Link buses - I wonder if that's just the way it looks in this rendering, or if perhaps the bus area is integrated near the base. There is a pedway from that bus area to Union Station now under Jackson.

Union Station itself can be extended upward - I think up to 20 floors, IIRC, on the existing foundations. Last time they talked about doing that, it was for a hotel, which would bring a little evening activity.

The master plan indicates that the new transit center would be integrated into the new building. The plan even holds out the possibility of expanding the transit center, perhaps to accommodate motorcoaches like the Amtrak Thruway route to Madison, WI.

pilsenarch Sep 9, 2016 11:16 AM

^you beat me to it... a building of this size would most likely take up the whole block...

it's funny, I was just musing that it was a disappointment to me that the Transit Center wasn't integrated into a new development...

Mr. D. thought that was a little silly since there wouldn't be demand for another 30 years...

Steely Dan Sep 9, 2016 1:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Downtown (Post 7555461)
A dedicated thread for a proposal where the developer hasn't even put in a bid for the site yet? Isn't that a bit premature?

three things:

1. this is sterling bay and they have released a rendering. if this were some unknown mexican hotel developer, or there wasn't a rendering released, we wouldn't have a dedicated thread.

2. over the years we've created dozens of dedicated threads for chicago proposals that never went anywhere. if this one doesn't go anywhere, it will be no different.

3. most importantly, the primary purpose of dedicated threads is to let SSP forumers, other than the chicago regulars, know about significant tower proposals when they are announced. it might be hard to believe, but not everyone on this forum religiously reads all 8 billion posts of the chicago highrise development thread.

Steely Dan Sep 9, 2016 1:37 PM

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Originally Posted by munchymunch (Post 7555489)
:tup:

Where did we get 57 floors from?

i took my best shot at counting the floors in the rendering.

there are 4 blocks of 14 floors each (56 floors total) and what looks like a very high ground floor.

the count might be off by several floors if there are mezzanine levels or parking floors in the base, but it's the best we have until we learn more.

Zerton Sep 9, 2016 3:01 PM

Oh my god it's beautiful. I love the exposed structure. So Chicago.

SamInTheLoop Sep 9, 2016 3:09 PM

Wow. Such a no-brainer location for large-scale office that even Sterling Bay's interested! It's that good.

Also very encouraged that they're working with SOM - if they win the bidding for the site. The design itself of course is potentially subject to major change if they win it......

Llemon, nice mock-ups previous page......the skyline vantage points that would be most impacted and would be interesting to take a look at would be from due south, and from due north........a tower of these proportions would be quite impressive from those......

Also, I'd heard something similar re Bank of America possible consolidation........whatever their current total space downtown, it will definitely be somewhat less all consolidated in a new tower - if they go that direction.....

ardecila Sep 9, 2016 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ithakas (Post 7555187)
Is a multi-level parking garage qualified to be built in a PMD? I could see it going into the Fulton PMD land north of Coyne College somewhere, though I'm not sure I can think of an obvious spot for it south of Fulton.

I agree in hoping Amtrak replacement parking is built underground with a pedway. I also would love to see this tower be office/residential mixed-use to help give the area more life at night, though the design is great so I won't complain.

Every PMD has different restrictions... but yes, garages are allowed in the Kinzie Corridor PMD.

Steely Dan Sep 9, 2016 6:45 PM

obviously this is all very preliminary and everything is subject to change, but i thought it would be interesting to note that if this becomes a real project and is built to 958' tall, it would be the tallest office building built in chicago since franklin center, 2 pru, & 311 s wacker were built way back in '89/'90.

by the time this thing could potentially be completed, you're talking about at least a 30 year time span since we've seen an office tower this tall in chicago!

let's all hope chicago can FINALLY break through that 500' - 800' height cap that has afflicted all office towers built here over the past couple of decades.

aaron38 Sep 9, 2016 7:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7555144)

Does this take up the full block? From this render it seems to come North to Jackson (probably some plaza space there) and span from Canal to Clinton. But the south edge looks to be even with the north face of the US Equities-Union tower. Meaning it doesn't go all the way to Van Buren. We can't really see what's down there. A plaza?
Edit: Maybe that's an optical illusion, I'm wavering on that. Can't really tell where the south face lands.

I like the design though. And yes, it will really stretch out the skyline from there. And be a new tallest west of the river yes?

Tom Servo Sep 9, 2016 8:25 PM

Cool. But why do I feel like either A this won't get built or B it'll go the way of that Jahn building and be ruined by Kamin and his NIMBY posse... Hmm...:sly:

Steely Dan Sep 9, 2016 8:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaron38 (Post 7556110)
And be a new tallest west of the river yes?

yes, by a couple hundred feet.


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