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chris08876 Nov 15, 2018 3:34 AM

As seen in post #776, there's still a lot of low rises or 4-6 story range structures that need the wrecking ball. A lot of potential or parcels that are ripe for towers. (North of the pits)

chris08876 Nov 16, 2018 9:21 PM

Pic by me. Taken today.
20181116_114007 by Christopher Estevez, on Flickr

NYguy Nov 27, 2018 2:06 AM



NYguy Dec 10, 2018 4:11 AM

AllianceBernstein eyeing The Spiral for Manhattan move

By Lois Weiss
December 9, 2018


Financial giant AllianceBernstein is now closing in on a decision as to where it will regroup in New York City now that it has committed to moving its headquarters to Nashville.

Sources tell The Post that the firm has targeted and is negotiating with the Related venture at 50 Hudson Yards and with Tishman Speyer for The Spiral — which looks like it may be getting the thumbs up.

The company previously considered 2 Manhattan West, the RealDeal reported in May, where it could have anchored the next office tower. It also looked Downtown at Brookfield Place, sources said.

It is also keeping an eye on its current headquarters at 1345 Sixth Ave., where, according to CoStar, it leases 854,705 square feet that expires in 2024 but does not occupy all that space. Owner Fisher Bros. is also planning a revamping of this older building.

It’s about the future of its workplace and its image,” said one person who is familiar with the search but not authorized to speak on the record.

“These are very high-quality new construction buildings with extraordinary spaces, glass and infrastructure.”

AllianceBernstein’s City requirement is for 200,000 to 250,000 square feet.

All the buildings are rolling out the red carpet for large tenants but still must cover their costs.

To date, Bjarke Ingels-designed 2.8 million-square-foot tower at 66 Hudson Blvd., known as The Spiral for its dramatic, swirling terraces, sits on the north side of West 34th Street. So far, Pfizer has signed for 800,000 square feet on the seventh through 21st floors of the 65-story tower, which will rise to 1,031 feet.

The Spiral is due to be delivered for shaping by tenants in 2021 with occupancy the following year.

The Foster + Partners-designed 58-story 50 Hudson Yards is expected to be finished in 2022. This Related, Oxford Properties and Mitsui Fudosan-owned 2.9 million-square-foot tower sits directly across W. 34th Street with an entrance on W. 33rd.

One sticky issue is that a competitor, BlackRock, has already committed to 846,990 square feet on the lower block of floors, but one source dismissed that as a ‘non-issue.’ The 21st floor is a building Sky Lobby and amenity center that includes massage stations.

NYguy Dec 15, 2018 2:24 AM

Like the equally large and as-of-right 270 Park Avenue, this one needs some minor modifications to the zoning text...

chris08876 Dec 26, 2018 5:18 PM

Tishman Speyer’s BIG Supertall Spiral Gets Ready To Rise Above Ground At 66 Hudson Boulevard, In Hudson Yards District


Taking up one full block bound by West 34rd Street, West 35th Street, Tenth Avenue, and Eleventh Avenue, 66 Hudson Boulevard is currently the eighth-tallest building under construction in YIMBY’s end-of-year countdown. Designed by Bjarke Ingels Group, the glass commercial office supertall will literally put a spin on the idea of the outdoor terrace. The 65-story tower is being developed by Tishman Speyer, with foundations already progressing for the 1,031-foot-tall and 2.85 million square foot structure. The official non-marketing address for the project is 509 West 34th Street.


As of now, foundation work is expected to be finished in the coming weeks before the structure begins ascending vertically above street level. The Spiral will extend the skyline of the Hudson Yards district to the north, and form a new section of tall buildings against the rigid grid of Manhattan. Pfizer is currently the largest future tenant, having signed for 800,000 square feet of space. The project is expected to cost around $3.7 billion.

Completion of The Spiral is expected sometime in 2022.

Credit: Michael Young via NYY

ILNY Dec 27, 2018 2:37 AM

chris08876 Jan 4, 2019 10:14 PM
Credit: Rob Harper

Skyguy_7 Jan 14, 2019 1:13 PM

I read that the tower crane went up this weekend. Can anyone confirm?

NYguy Jan 14, 2019 5:57 PM


Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 8435596)
I read that the tower crane went up this weekend. Can anyone confirm?

Hadn't been over there, but here's a few...









NYguy Jan 15, 2019 1:33 AM

A little older...


66 Hudson Core Update

This core has 11 layers of Rebar to support the tower.



colemonkee Jan 15, 2019 5:04 AM

Those pits are a lot deeper than I thought.

pico44 Jan 15, 2019 9:06 PM

In other cities, they pound 150 stakes into swamp sludge and attach skyscrapers to the top of these skinny poles. In New York we attach buildings to the rocky crust of the earth.

chris08876 Jan 16, 2019 10:32 AM

Site is massive.
Credit: nyc_alex

NYguy Jan 16, 2019 8:29 PM

The Spiral may have gotten a crane up first, but as of now, 50 Hudson still has the early lead. It will be fun to see this "race" to the top. Wager amongst yourselves.

nyc_alex Jan 16, 2019 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 8438317)
Site is massive.


Thanks, meant to cross post that here :D

NYguy Jan 21, 2019 3:41 AM


Submariner Jan 21, 2019 10:09 PM

Isn't this considered U/C by now?

chris08876 Jan 22, 2019 2:42 AM


Originally Posted by Submariner (Post 8444487)
Isn't this considered U/C by now?

Its u/c. Both the Spiral and 50 Hudson in the aerials. Either that, or those yellow vest loiterers are getting paid union rates for standing in a pit when its -8 F outside.

CTBUH lists them both as u/c.

NYguy Jan 22, 2019 4:18 PM


Originally Posted by Submariner (Post 8444487)
Isn't this considered U/C by now?

Is is, that's why it's here.

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