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mcgrath618 Jul 11, 2018 1:39 AM

PHILADELPHIA | 3720 Chestnut | 344 FT | 29 FLOORS
 
Cranes were up before the ink even dried.

Title: 3720 Chestnut
Project: Residential, retail
Architect: SITIO Inc
Developer: EPG Urban Multifamily
Location: 3700 block Chestnut to Sansom, Philadelphia, PA
Neighborhood: Walnut Hill
District: University City
Floors: 29 floors
Height: 343 feet
https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...pg?format=500w

http://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/pr...ission_v2B.pdf
http://www.philly.com/philly/busines...-20180129.html
https://www.sitioau.com/3720-chestnut
Quote:

The Archdiocese of Philadelphia is under contract to sell the current home of University City’s Newman Center student ministry at 3720 Chestnut St. for redevelopment into a residential high-rise.

The Rev. Carlos Keen said in an email to Newman Center supporters Monday that the ministry will move into the former school building and church basement of the nearby St. Agatha-St. James Parish, where he is pastor.

Proceeds from the sale to an entity called EPG Urban LLC will be used to renovate those spaces for the Newman Center’s use and for repairs to the church building’s exterior, as well as to help shore up the Archdiocese’s finances, Keen said.

The University of Pennsylvania, which currently uses the former school building at 111 38th St. as office space, has been notified that its lease there will not be renewed, he said.

mcgrath618 Jul 11, 2018 1:43 AM

Some more renderings:
https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...pg?format=750w
https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...pg?format=750w
https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...g?format=1500w
https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...g?format=1000w

summersm343 Jul 11, 2018 3:15 AM

Another great University City highrise! Love this project as well. Again, thank you for creating a thread! Well done!

Mr Saturn64 Jul 11, 2018 2:29 PM

An interesting contrast with the Gothic churches on either side.

TechTalkGuy Jul 11, 2018 6:52 PM

Will this proposal be noticeable on the skyline stretch?
Looks tall for its intended location. :)

McBane Jul 12, 2018 2:07 PM

Could be. It was discussed in the main thread that this will be the tallest building in Univ City outside of the Cira complex. Not by a whole lot, but this will still rise above its neighbors, most of which are sub-300 feet. If it helps to put this building and its location into perspective - the new apartment building across the street is 278 feet.

EDIT - I should add that the new Penn Hospital building will also be 343 feet.

jsbrook Jul 12, 2018 3:46 PM

This is a little boxy on the North/South axis (more height would've helped there), but it generally looks very good to me. The base design/first couple floors seem to me to be a nice improvement over most of what goes up in University City. If they use good materials, this will be a great building for the location.

iheartphilly Jul 12, 2018 4:58 PM

This is a good build when it happens. Rectangular in shape and use of different cladding materials and not all glass cladding, which it typical for new builds around University City. The base of the bldg seems to incorporate some faux stones? and other materials. This design is more interesting to look at than most that were recently developed. I think from a design standpoint, it is moving in the right direction. And there seems to be more public space around the building as oppose to the builds that butt right up to the sidewalk with little room to move around or no seating area to lounge and enjoy the surroundings. Lastly, plants and trees are included which softens up all the hard materials that will be used.

JohnIII Jul 12, 2018 6:59 PM

This project has good height; I'd like it taller but it has good height for the area and it has good mass as well. It seems about the height of the Pennsylvania State Building and if we look at the skyline from Belmont Plateau it will have impact; University City blends in with the rest of downtown really well now and the more height the more both areas look more unified.

TechTalkGuy Jul 13, 2018 12:43 AM

From 37th street, this important tower gives Philadelphia miles of skyscrapers. ;)

SEFTA Jul 13, 2018 12:04 PM

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1766/...2718377e_b.jpgUniversity City 6-28-18 d

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1805/...0790f79c_b.jpgCC 7-13-18

TechTalkGuy Jul 13, 2018 4:57 PM

:goodpost: Thanks SEFTA for the graphic illustration! ;)

JurassicPhilly Jul 13, 2018 8:09 PM

Sad it's not the American Commerce Center. :(

boxbot Jul 13, 2018 9:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JurassicPhilly (Post 8250332)
Sad it's not the American Commerce Center. :(

https://memecrunch.com/meme/5FH/not-...-fry/image.jpg

JurassicPhilly Jul 14, 2018 6:49 PM

I'm sorry, but I can't let it go. American Commerce Center here, there, and everywhere! American Commerce Center Forever!!!

SJPhillyBoy Jul 15, 2018 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JurassicPhilly (Post 8251049)
I'm sorry, but I can't let it go. American Commerce Center here, there, and everywhere! American Commerce Center Forever!!!

:haha:

Philadelphia's future is doomed and can no longer exist because ACC was not built. :haha:

City Wide Jul 15, 2018 3:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JurassicPhilly (Post 8251049)
I'm sorry, but I can't let it go. American Commerce Center here, there, and everywhere! American Commerce Center Forever!!!

Maybe somebody can make you a model of what the ACC would have looked like and that would help you in your grief. How about a 12 step program?

Knight Hospitaller Jul 15, 2018 4:31 PM

I’ve moved on to grieving the loss of “Amazon Prime Tower.”

TechTalkGuy Jul 16, 2018 2:44 AM

No updates on 3720 Chestnut St? :???:

City Wide Jul 17, 2018 3:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechTalkGuy (Post 8252077)
No updates on 3720 Chestnut St? :???:


This project was first announced like 5 weeks ago. What sortof of updates do you think should be out there for your consideration? It's like you jump around from one thread to another asking for updates; do you think people have info that they aren't sharing. Patience, it will all come to pass, what will happen will happen. If you really want to push this thread forward I'd suggest you get in touch with the developer and maybe the architect and see what they can tell you, then you can pass on that info to the rest of us.

TechTalkGuy Jul 17, 2018 6:09 PM

:previous: No answer is as bad as one can get.
How about offering an answer if you have one. :hell:

Philamigo Jul 17, 2018 8:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 8247549)
Another great University City highrise! Love this project as well. Again, thank you for creating a thread! Well done!

University City is still on the move!

Some much smaller - but not insignificant - construction sites include the extension of the Ronald McDonald House on Chestnut, Luna on Pine Apartments at 40th St., apartments (?) on Walnut just west of 42nd St., new multi-story wing to apartments on 41st and Baltimore. The remodel of the 40th Street Trolley Portal is nearly complete, as is the Perlman School of Political Science at Sansom and 36th.

PHL10 Jul 17, 2018 8:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechTalkGuy (Post 8253758)
:previous: No answer is as bad as one can get.
How about offering an answer if you have one. :hell:

This will break ground on February 5, 2019 at 9:07am. Some design changes - the first floor will be a petting zoo and the roof with have 18 lanes of Slip 'N Slide.

mcgrath618 Jul 17, 2018 8:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHL10 (Post 8253960)
This will break ground on February 5, 2019 at 9:07am. Some design changes - the first floor will be a petting zoo and the roof with have 18 lanes of Slip 'N Slide.

I heard it breaks ground in 10 minutes and will have rock climbing walls on every floor.

City Wide Jul 17, 2018 9:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHL10 (Post 8253960)
This will break ground on February 5, 2019 at 9:07am. Some design changes - the first floor will be a petting zoo and the roof with have 18 lanes of Slip 'N Slide.

Now that's what I call an update, thanks for the great news. From now until 2/5/19 will you be kind enough to provide weekly reports, like have the shovels for ground breaking been purchased, and when will this be finished, ready for move in?

TechTalkGuy Jul 18, 2018 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHL10 (Post 8253960)
This will break ground on February 5, 2019 at 9:07am. Some design changes - the first floor will be a petting zoo and the roof with have 18 lanes of Slip 'N Slide.

Love the petting zoo!
I hope they will have all breeds of snakes to pet! ;)

mcgrath618 Jul 18, 2018 7:20 PM

CDR really likes this one:
http://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/pr...%20Reviews.pdf
They think it has a good footprint, they like the hardscapes, open areas, etc

summersm343 Sep 19, 2018 10:29 PM

Fencing is up around the existing building and interior demo has started.

mcgrath618 Sep 20, 2018 3:25 AM

Wow, that was quick

McBane Sep 20, 2018 5:43 PM

Fencing and demo is the quick and easy part. Developers tend to get that part of the job very quickly for fear of preservationists coming in to block demolition. For all we know, this project could be another year away from getting off the ground. But getting rid of whatever pesky existing building sits in the way of a larger development gives that property a nice boost in value. If by chance the developer isn't able to get this project off the ground, they at least own a turn-key development site, which can be sold for a nice profit.

I'm not saying this project won't happen or that demolition isn't a step in the right direction. I just don't necessarily think it means that construction is imminent. See SLS.

Knight Hospitaller Sep 20, 2018 6:02 PM

^ I assume it's the Penn Newman Center that's being demolished. Ain't nobody wants to preserve that clunker.

mcgrath618 Sep 20, 2018 6:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller (Post 8321229)
^ I assume it's the Penn Newman Center that's being demolished. Ain't nobody wants to preserve that clunker.

It is indeed.

McBane Sep 20, 2018 8:15 PM

True. But I don't think a developer would ever take that for granted. We've witnessed some really ugly and marginally historic buildings certified. Robinson's and that health clinic on South Broad immeidately come to mind. And also that building on the corner of 19th and Chestnut where the new tower is going up is historic and the reason why was pretty weak if I recall.

But the bigger point is that, having gone through the trouble of demolishing the existing structure and now holding onto a clean slate property ready for development, that land is more valuable and will turn a profit even if the developer's plan don't come to fruition. This commentary isn't specific to this property, it's a general rule that is amplified if the structure pending demolition is in anyway controversial.

MusicMan84 Sep 23, 2018 1:48 PM

I work in the neighborhood and had a chance to speak with the developers. They seemed fairly confident about this moving forward quickly. They have been working for the past few months to assist in relocating the Newman Center operations and renovating some of the existing space in the church and the building behind the church. Based on what they told me back in June - they're right on schedule. We'll see.

City Wide Sep 25, 2018 6:46 PM

heavy demo equipment was being off loaded on 38th st. near Samson, so it certainly looks like the demo is going forward.

mcgrath618 Nov 4, 2018 5:46 PM

Zoning and Construction permits are posted, along with a sign for the developers and architects:
http://www.simpleimageresizer.com/_u...CC8C03_50.jpeg

City Wide Nov 5, 2018 1:16 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yes, the site has been cleaned, and it looks like work has started on the basement/foundation. There's even a sign announcing pre construction leasing. Looks like this is definely happening.

mcgrath618 Nov 5, 2018 1:33 AM

Oops, it seems like my picture of the site has disappeared. I'll get a new one when I get home.

City Wide Jan 3, 2019 5:05 AM

It looks like some excavation has been done and that drilling for the foundation piles has started.
(where on this site are suggestions about how to post photos given?)

iheartphilly Jan 3, 2019 2:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by City Wide (Post 8424465)
It looks like some excavation has been done and that drilling for the foundation piles has started.
(where on this site are suggestions about how to post photos given?)

Not sure where on this site, but if you have a FLICKR or another photo sharing account, the BBC code is a simple cut and paste to your post here to get the photo posted.

wanderer34 Jan 4, 2019 1:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jurassicphilly (Post 8251049)
i'm sorry, but i can't let it go. American commerce center here, there, and everywhere! American commerce center forever!!!

me too!!!!:???::???::???:

Mikieman Jan 15, 2019 4:13 PM

Drove past this one today, pile driver on site and working hard, this is certainly full steam ahead and needs a move to under construction. This may be the fastest announced to start project in Philly history.

mcgrath618 Jan 15, 2019 4:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikieman (Post 8437081)
Drove past this one today, pile driver on site and working hard, this is certainly full steam ahead and needs a move to under construction. This may be the fastest announced to start project in Philly history.

You beat me to the punch; I was going to take a pic in between classes today :worship:

iheartphilly Jan 15, 2019 4:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgrath618 (Post 8437093)
You beat me to the punch; I was going to take a pic in between classes today :worship:

Please grab a pick. This is a very nice looking project. I feel the design of this tower has stepped up amongst the ones that were built in the past few years. Good for them. Hope this continues with new proposals going forward for this area.

summersm343 Jan 15, 2019 5:15 PM

Once we have a pic, we can move to under construction :cheers:

mcgrath618 Jan 15, 2019 6:31 PM

(My apologies in advance for image size)
https://i.imgur.com/tIO9D6C.jpg

summersm343 Jan 15, 2019 7:20 PM

Thanks! Looks like they're installing caissons :cheers:

Jawnadelphia Feb 20, 2019 9:39 PM

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Urbanthusiat Feb 21, 2019 12:15 AM

Wow this site got moving in a hurry. Love to see it.

McBane Feb 21, 2019 3:37 PM

Wow this went from proposal to a big hole in the ground in less than 3 pages. How many pages is the SLS thread up to? The W/Element probably had 50 pages before it started digging into the ground!


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