Yet another sepia photograph from ebay, this time with the date.
http://imageshack.us/a/img600/7802/ue9b.jpg

OK, what is that on the sidewalk that looks like a gurney with white sheets?
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Thanks for the information on the Moneta-Manchester Tract GW.

That's a wonderful photo! Now, my friend Joe and I wonder whether the building behind the adults might be the current home of Phillipes. Here's a then and now that I posted last year. (On these two the point of view is from around the corner on Ord, of course.) Any thoughts?

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Phillipes/00057490.jpg

http://dkse.net/david/Phillipes/100_9040.JPG

Nope, Sorry the only thing that happens after I click on print screen
then right click my mouse is a little 1"x1" see through screen with a
plus sign in the bottom right corner and then the picture zooms in.
Maybe you have a computer more advance than mine, I bought this
HP Envy H8-1534 PC with a AMD Six-Core FX-6200 Processor, 10GB
DDR3 System Memory, 1.5 TB Hard Drive, AMD Radeon HD7570
Graphics Card, Intergrated Bluetooth 4.0 Windows 8. I have no
idea what all that means, can you tell by what I just typed if my
computer will do what you explained to me in your post?
If not no big deal I'll be happy with what everyone else posts,
It would be nice to contribute from time to time.
Thanks For Your Time and :help:
Gene

Victoria Park
 

This residential development is bounded by Pico Blvd. on the north, Venice Blvd. on the south, Crenshaw Blvd. on the east, and West Blvd. on the west:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psc373291b.jpg
Google Maps

Here's the area in 1903; the future Victoria Park is in the area owned by Herbert Nadeau above the RR tracks -- along which 16th Street/Venice Blvd. will run -- and below the street (Pico) at the top of the map:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps93eff9b0.jpg
Historic Mapworks -- http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/...+De+La+Tijera/

Development plans were underway by 1910:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps49d5fbda.jpg
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2eca1fab.jpg
Jan 23 1910 LA Herald at LOC -- http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1

1918 aerial view looking east. The intersection of Crenshaw and Pico is in the upper left corner of the photo; Crenshaw and Venice is in the upper right corner:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps28c84509.jpg
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../id/6100/rec/1

1940 aerial view looking north:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9f1f99d2.jpg
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../id/3717/rec/2

4426 Victoria Park Place, 1928:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4c9e2aca.jpg
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/23305/rec/3

4426 Victoria Park Place, 2011:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps84b35999.jpg
GSV

4311 Victoria Park Place, the 1911-built Holmes-Shannon House, is on the National Register of Historic Places and is Los Angeles Historic-Cultural Monument #885:http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps891b898d.jpg
2008 photo @ Wikimedia commons -- http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...nnon_House.jpg

Interior photos of 4311 Victoria Park Place, plus other Victoria Park homes, at Kansas Sebastian's Flickr page:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kansas_...th/3511086805/

Screen print......
 

I realize that we've seen numerous images of the famous Temple Block here on noirish Los Angeles.

This photograph, that I found on ebay in June, features large awnings that I don't recall seeing before (I could be wrong).
http://imageshack.us/a/img27/1281/5v4e.jpg



-reverse of photo.
http://imageshack.us/a/img43/8072/zx1w.jpg
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A few priors:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13530

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13531

I get this CBD.
http://imageshack.us/a/img593/4347/1l00.jpg
GE


http://imageshack.us/a/img196/3631/1zuf.jpg
GSV
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Internet this and that...
 

:previous:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-k...2520PM.bmp.jpg

Not sure how this is much use. None of the Marilyn foamers on the internet can seem to agree about the exact spot either. I realized while poking around that I really don't care where Marilyn Monroe lived, so I'll just settle for somewhere in the vicinity of Nebraska Avenue.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-N...2520PM.bmp.jpg

LA Times July 10, 1920

Los Angeles County GIS was able to sort this out:

http://gis.planning.lacounty.gov/GIS...ic/Viewer.html

The apartment building at 11334 Nebraska was built in 1962 and must have swallowed up whatever previously existed at 11348. The house next door is 11356.

sidewalk "thing"
 

[QUOTE=3940dxer;6258527]Walking around the Plaza yesterday I couldn't help but notice these "cages", which protect young trees that are planted along the sidewalk. Coincidence, or...?



If you zoom in close on the photo you can see the sidewalk concrete is solid, no breaks, no dirt no planter. I tried Googling sidewalk stand, bracket, grille, support - grasping at straws and came up with nothing. :sly:

power poles
 

I suppose since I work for Southern California Edison (not for much longer though!!) I should know the answer to the question. But I don’t, other than to say, because they are made out of old trees, each has its own life expectancy. There are wood pole replacement programs that are ongoing because the poles do deteriorate.
Among the various utilities in the area, where overhead lines are present most are covered by a joint pole agreement so everyone shares the same poles thus reducing the number. Electricity is always on top, with phone and cable under for obvious reasons. The sharing complicates pole replacement as one might imagine because everyone has to move their lines. In places where the power lines get removed and buried, we cut the top of the pole off above the other lines.
Every time we have a need to add new lines every pole along the route is inspected to be sure it is capable of bearing additional load. And if not those individual poles are replaced. Where SCE sometimes gets in trouble is when the other users add new lines and we don’t know about them. This proved to be a big problem a year or two ago when heavy winds and toppled trees broke many poles in the Temple City area. Because the biggest impact was the loss of power, we took the hit from politicians and the media.
It’s hard to believe but a major cause of pole failure is woodpeckers.
BTW, we choose to refer to them as power poles, not phone poles… We have to put the power lines up high enough to keep the phone company guys from killing themselves.

For once I like the "today" view better, though it might be more due to the cameras used and light conditions at the time. The contemporary view looks cleaner and more built-up in a good way; in 1977 it seems the air was dirtier and the streetscape more decimated by either street-level asphalt parking lots or just vacant lots (can't really tell).

There must have been some renumbering over the past century, because 2203 Rogers no longer exists as an address. Today the house on the NE corner is at 720 Chicago and the next house on the north side of Rogers is 2215. Numerous houses in the area have build or effective build dates from the nineteen-aughts but generally a year or two after the purported date of the photographs. Clearly this is an interesting neighborhood for local historians, and one that doesn't get as much attention as it deserves. It's a mystery to be sure; a new and larger parcel often replaces several small contiguous house lots, but the house in the picture looks at least as big as anything on the street today. Still the writing on the back does say it's this intersection. It's not unheard of for personal snapshots to be labeled years after the fact; I wonder if there could have been a slight error in either the year or the address, or both?

http://imageshack.us/a/img214/374/aa...ersaveporc.jpg
ebay


I'm sorry, but these folks are looking into the camera lens, and they're all dead, some long since dead. It creeps me out a bit. :runaway:

From the parcel map I think 2203 Rogers Avenue must have been swallowed up by the NE corner lot currently numbered 720 S Chicago. From that map and Google it appears there are now four separately standing bungalows, all built in the late 1910s and one or two dwelling units each. This would explain why 2203 no longer exists and also why the next house on Rogers Ave -- the "house behind the house"--is 2215 when we would otherwise expect a smaller "jump" in the house numbering. At least as far back as 1909, from that year's city directory, this has always been the 2200 block of Rogers Avenue, so there wasn't any renumbering.

A build date of 1901 is given so it all fits. I am surprised, however, that the square footage is listed as 1820. I'm lousy at estimating the square footage of a house from looking at its picture, but I did think it would be roomier inside.

Los Angeles GIS NET to the rescue again! 2215 Rogers Ave. (the house next door) was built in 1901, and as mentioned the distinctive diamond-shaped opening under the roof peak makes it clear that the current house is the same next-door neighbor as in the old photo.

The corner lot is now filled with 4 buildings - a single family house faces Rogers at #2209, two duplexes face Chicago St., and a third duplex sits in the back corner. The craftsman house on Rogers was built in 1912, two duplexes were built in 1915 and the third one was built in 1918. So the big beautiful house in the old photo has been gone for at least 95 years. I'm not sure if the space between the two houses in the old photo is large enough for the craftsman, or if the big house on the corner was more in the middle of the total available space. Looking at the duplex on the corner today, it doesn't seem to me like there is enough space there to fit the old house.