Phoenix | X Phoenix | 320 FT | 25 Floors
 

Is it time to get this started? :shrug::cheers::)

Phase 2 Construction cam: https://app.oxblue.com/open/clayco/xphoenixph2


Phase 2 Rendering:

https://e1.nmcdn.io/clayco/wp-content/up...29-fit:cover/XPhoenix_PhaseII--2000.webp

Here is the website:

https://xliving.co/communities/x-phoenix/

And the renderings:

https://i.imgur.com/6jVVMVbh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3ikVzJUh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sadF63bh.jpg

This is going to be a great one!

Can't believe how far this part of Monroe St has come over the past 6 years.

X is now listed on UEB's website, but no webcam yet:

https://ueb.net/projects/G33/G33.html

https://azbigmedia.com/1st-phase-of-x-phoenix-breaks-ground-downtown/

More details on the ground-breaking. I guess this project will be 2-phased.

So what part of the rendering is included in Phase 1?

Nobody knows, thats the fun.

Probably the worst possible sections of the completed project.

They've added a couple more renderings to UEB's site. The 5th rendering of X Phoenix sure makes it look like X's top level view towers over Wells Fargo and the Phoenix City Hall towers. I know some developers like to exaggerate their renderings, but most of UEB's renderings are usually on par with what the view will actually be. Wondering if there is any potential the 2nd phase of this could have a taller option?

https://ueb.net/projects/G33/G33.html

A full block at 20something floors will be huge on the skyline, Its going to be taller and Wider than Stewart which looks huge.

But I dont think it will tower over Wells fargo

Turns out the phxrising.city dude snagged the building data from DSD.

https://i1.wp.com/phxrising.city/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/X-Phoenix-Data.jpg

They do not have approvals to go over 372'.

Yea, I didn't think so. Guess UEB exaggerated, :haha:

So it looks like phase 1 says 239' and phase 2 is 280'. And the site allows up to 540' max.

What a shame. Such prime real estate for a tall building. Its lame they are not building up to the approved height of 540'. That block is massive too so this building looks like a giant prison. Too bad 3 tall slender buildings couldn't go here. The Phoenix X is a Weird design overall in my opinion. This thing might look best as phase 1 only.

Maybe they decide to sell off the parcel for Phase II and have someone build something taller and slender?

So why does the rendering look like both phases are the same height?

I hope the surrounding uses get a facelift after the announcement of this project.

The block to the west has been remodeled already that’s where wenlick market and the Abby are, the south is at&t which isn’t going anywhere to the east is the bankruptcy court, also not going anywhere and to the north is sun devil auto which I think could be turned into a good spot like they did with sip in Arcadia

The block west still has an existing surface lot on the eastern portion where a slender residential tower would look great. If built, that + The Abbey remodel + Welnick would be an amazing block of restored buildings in an area that could use the stimulus.

The AT&T building has so much space surrounding it; I wish there was some kind of incentive for them - and buildings like Dodge Theater - to wrap at least portions with small-scale retail / retail + office / residential walkups. The bankruptcy court is another eyesore, but the parking lot could theoretically be redeveloped into, at least, a mixed use parking garage.

The Sun Devil Auto building and the one adjacent to Crescent Ballroom have such great potential for adaptive reuse, with food/bars/retail inside, and patios/food trucks outside. If X Phoenix, despite the god-awful superblock design, contributes an active streetfront along WVB, it would be great to finally see something started in this area to build off Crescent, Welnick, and The VB.

X (trucks and tractors!) mark the spot
 

X (trucks and tractors!) mark the spot

https://imgur.com/a/IPBAtER

God what an absolutely massive footprint. This bitch is going to look squat as hell :yuck:

Edit: also Bonus of dirt moving for Fillmore phase 1 in the top right corner.

I'm not really a big fan of this project. It's just more land and less air being taken up for precious Downtown space. It removes the alley and creates a super-massive block which is one of Downtown Phoenix's biggest issues. Blocks should not be this large in a Downtown.

These will be some of the most coveted apartments in PHX. I was more concerned with the vacant lot than the prospect of a beautiful $231m project. Excited to watch this one go vertical :cheers:

I dont think anyone denies that, But I also wish it was taller and less wide.

However I disagree that our blocks in the center of downtown are unusually big. They are quite normal at least right around the core.

I don't really care how big the block is so long as long as the overall street interaction is good--entrances or breathable spaces no more than every 50'. X has a fair amount of office and retail--the bigger fear is that it sits vacant.

Couldn't agree more. Lets think about the success of the project, I would rather have less height and more downtown space filled if the project is going to thrive and lease up quickly rather than waiting another cycle until phoenix will allow height above 400'. If this project succeeds, phoenix will garner a ton more interest from high rise developers thus increasing density of downtown. I'd love to see a 500' proposal come through, but at this location this is about as good as it gets. Height is more likely near the stadiums and along central.

Relax fellow forumers. I am not complaining about the density or the vibrancy that X will bring and I never said I would rather not see it built over a vacant lot. I'm merely not thrilled with what I consider is a bland boxy design and I would have like to have seen the alleyway or a pedestrian walkway be integrated in some way to break it up a bit. Anyway, this is a 2-phase build and there's always the chance we will get stuck with only phase 1 and end up with only half a box. :D

I put this squarely on the City government. There are plenty of offices being built in Scottsdale, Chandler, Tempe, even Mesa is getting a brand new 1.5 million sqft project.

The city has not done a good job of getting offices downtown. that is on the city, the Metro has plenty of office draw.

Don't forget Gilbert has Rivulon too, another couple of million sqft of office space.

Right on scheduled:

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news...f-10-best-states-for-new-businesses.html

There is plenty of office space absorption, the city needs to focus on getting those downtown. They've done great getting housing and food/entertainment downtown but now they need to push for some of this office growth.

^ North Dakota is a better place to start a business than AZ? :haha:

Thanks for saving me a click.

If oil related i 100% believe it.

Tbqh, I blame the west valley--it's so easy once you get used to it! ;)

Phoenix is no longer central to the workers that companies want to hire nor has it ever been really close to the executives that will hire them. I suppose when Central Phoenix starts to gentrify further and the schools improve, that will change.

A lot of equipment and rebar columns on site. Sorry for the crappy cellphone pic.

You can also see some of the new fencing up at The Fillmore site from this angle and upcoming Aspire Fillmore

https://i.imgur.com/my07JPQh.jpg

Stay working there you will be able to get the hotel, x, the Gilmore and aspirant all from that spot, maybe even our unlikely 500+ footers

Obstruction evaluation for a 410' crane:

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/searchAction.jsp?action=displayOECase&oeCaseID=411640079&row=4

That's an awful lot of crane height for a 290' building.

I drove by the site today. There was lots of activity.

Yeah hopefully they push it to 400' then! Maybe that picture they show in their concept art is accurate - the picture that shows it almost lined up with the Wells Fargo building. Who knows, still just glad that we have continuous development going on downtown.

With a 400’ crane, we can shove it up that guy’s ass who reported that downtown Phoenix development was stagnant because there weren’t enough cranes around.

Bring on this beast!!!

Well I've learned that the first phase is basically the I shaped section of the rendering:

https://i.ibb.co/b27rgS4/X.jpg

This leaves me wondering if phase 1 is at 290'ish mark? If so, then the second phase will be a little taller as it has an additional floor which would put it a tick over 300', but still nowhere near enough for a 410' crane.

That looks like only half a block too

Is the first phase going to be facing Van Buren or Monroe? Hopefully Van Buren first.

Perhaps the question to ask is - what other structures does the crane have to clear to operate on the site?

I thought this was also a little more than housing, no? I know it's like "community living" or whatever, but will the ground floor have a few restaurants open to the public? I really hope so. I'm not so against the superblock if they put in a few restaurants. This also should help The Van Buren, State 48 Brewing and that new pizza place and bar that just went it survive!

The first phase as I posted would be facing South. So I sure hope the 2nd phase doesn't bust as that's the phase that would front Van Buren.

I am ok if this project is single phased for now or the developer revisits phase 2 later. I like it for what it is, but it's too much of a stub on an important piece of dirt that is growing in importance with Downtown's mid-west side.

For example, downtown is strangely running out of parcels big enough to build a decent, large floorplate office building if the submarket ever picks back up and the half block may as well be left over for that.

First crane is up (1 of 2)
 

PMG Seals $102M Financing for Phoenix Multifamily Project
 

https://commercialobserver.com/2019/10/pmg-phoenix/

Katerra hasn't posted any new webcam for X, but I did find this one and I think it looks just directly over the site for X:

https://video.nest.com/live/TbinOWG9t0

That's the City of Phoenix North webcam (https://www.phoenix.gov/citycam). Not sure when UEB...er, I mean Katara, will put up an X construction cam. Also of wierd note, Katara has removed Kenect from there projects page (or forgot to put it on there?).