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Burnside Bridge Earthquake Readiness Project
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Seems like this would be the perfect time to address West Burnside and turn it into a one way couplet with Couch extending from the East Side over to the West side of the river. Especially if the bridge is replaced, the alignment could be shifted to allow the existing bridge to be used during construction. Shift it somewhat north and transition Couch/Burnside on each side onto the bridge and make them a couplet on both sides.
Or go crazy and build a bridge a city block wide with roads at the boundaries and a new bridge park that connects the West and Eastside waterfront parks with a greenspace bridge across the river. Just have to get rid of that pesky road on the eastside that is in the way. |
I think the main thing about the Burnside bridge worth keeping are the cool castle-like towers. I'd think those could be removed and stored somewhere for re-attachment to a replacement bridge.
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How is it possible to have no mention of the Marquam bridge in that report? Did I miss it? I did a search but didn't find it in there. Is the plan to have it collapse so we can then start from scratch and get something less god awful?
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Burnside Bridge Earthquake Simulation Animation
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Yikes.
Don't watch that video before bedtime. |
My reaction was, yep, that is pretty much what I already knew. I am hoping we can secure funding for a new Burnside Bridge soon for this very reason.
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Found this presentation given a few months ago. It looks like options of preserving the bridge or a seismic retrofit are being ruled out, with only a complete rebuild or hybrid (rebuild of major portions of bridge and approaches) likely to move forward.
Slide 42 shows some options for a rebuild on the current alignment, or alignments to the north and south. It's hard to imagine either of those moving forward given the impacts they'd have at the approaches. |
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http://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/bu...d-for-impending-earthquake/283-528926339
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https://www.kgw.com/article/weather/eart...283-86986308-6c40-4217-a00c-4f6a9fd81d51
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Presentation [5MB] to the Landmarks and Design Commissions
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I like both, complete replacement, options. Upgrade for the long run. I like the twin arches for that area.
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For such a prominent spot along the waterfront you would think something more world renowned iconic look would be made
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paywall: https://www.oregonlive.com/commuting/202...ss-lane-other-cost-cutting-measures.html
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^The full article also significantly downplays the big cuts to the bicycle and pedestrian infrastructure in this round of cuts.
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https://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/2022/...ne-tunnel-solves-two-traffic-issues.html
Readers respond: One tunnel solves two traffic issues I wish this could become reality. |
If we were to spend billions on a tunnel from Goose Hollow to the Lloyd District I feel like it should be for the MAX.
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Hi all! I just created an account, but I've been a lurker/non-poster here for a while. I work as a structural engineer here in town. This past week I was bored (what's new) so I wrote the Oregonian piece above. Didn't think they'd actually publish it!
Here's the rest of the plan. Fleshed out some of the details last night. Iain, I actually fully agree that a MAX tunnel should be the first priority. But it wouldn't solve the seismic connection problem, and, well, good luck getting that money from ODOT. But this morning I started wondering if it wouldn't be possible to do both. The Alaskan way tunnel had a 52' inner diameter. If that is increased to 57', it becomes possible to add a third level at the top. See sketch at the link below. The tunnel area increases by 20%, so it is a jump, but not a huge jump. And definitely cheaper than boring a separate tunnel. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dFzZ5KC3jWWfU_3YYEHjQg4cD3uIun9Z/view?usp=sharing Where would the tunnel go? If there's a transit component, I think the logical station locations are Lloyd / NE 12th (at beginning of tunnel), Burnside / NE 2nd, Burnside / SW 6th, and Providence Park. The western terminus of the tunnel would be near the SW Jefferson exit ramps. The NE 2nd / Burnside station would connect to a central eastside light rail line along the waterfront. See PDF at the link below for a sketch of the central eastside (yes, I'm aware this is quite nerdy, but I had fun making it). https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z30TUQjbi_1X9XP2JINB9vNoe3NFj1Cs/view?usp=sharing The east side freeway would be removed, and only ramps would remain, lowered to run in a trench. There would be one lane and a breakdown shoulder in each direction. The freight railroad that currently runs down SE 1st St. would be rerouted and lowered to run parallel with the freeway ramps. The total width of the trench would be ~75 ft., but it would be broken into three spans. This means that ODOT wouldn't have to pay for the highway caps. The blocks could be sold off individually, with developers taking responsibility for building the caps. With 25' spans, it would be no different than building on top of an underground parking level. Of course, in this case, the developers wouldn't get the benefit of having a parking level below. But with prime riverfront property, I think it would pencil. If necessary, zoning could be adjusted to allow for more stories to compensate the developers. All of this was inspired by my (perhaps irrational) hatred of the central eastside freeway. I've seen other proposals to do away with that section of freeway, but most of them aren't convincing. Capping the highway in its current location wouldn't work since it's at grade. Lowering it while maintaining operations would be a logistical nightmare and incredibly expensive given the width and spans. A deep bore tunnel is a non-starter because of all the ramps. Much as I'd like to believe that simply removing it is an option, I'm skeptical. Funneling all of the region's N-S traffic, E-W traffic, S-E, and N-W traffic across the Fremont bridge is, I think, unrealistic. So, to summarize: A 57' diameter tunnel that accommodates light rail and highway. Let's round the cost up from $3.3 billion to $4 billion due to the larger diameter. It's worth noting that Trimet (those excellent stewards of public funds) were batting around a $4 billion figure for their own, separate, tunnel. Let's round up again to $5 billion for all the miscellaneous stuff. Trimet can pitch in $2 billion, Multnomah county can pitch in $1 billion, ODOT can pitch in $1.5 billion, and we're basically there! I should note that I don't actually expect this to be taken seriously, and I did this mostly for my own entertainment. Posting it here since some of you may find it interesting. I do wish we were having more of these big-picture conversations, though. [Iain, I recognize this is very off-topic, feel free to move as appropriate] |
Above post made me so wet.
Then we can give Portland Streetcar the Yamhill/Morrison and 1st Ave alignments? |
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https://www.multco.us/multnomah-county/n...easures-earthquake-ready-burnside-bridge
Multnomah County Commissioners approve cost-saving measures for an Earthquake Ready Burnside Bridge https://www.multco.us/s3/files/styles/me...CopyrightHDR_20220324_.jpg?itok=3TDXPEOr March 21, 2022 On Thursday, March 17 the Board of County Commissioners unanimously approved a plan to significantly reduce the cost of the Earthquake Ready Burnside Bridge Project. Without the cost reductions, the project is estimated to cost more than $1 billion. The cost-saving measures approved by commissioners will reduce the project’s costs by as much as $215 million. “I think the work that you’ve done to get to this place, with going through the numerous committees and groups has made this project all the more better and stronger,” Multnomah County Chair Deborah Kafoury said. “And have a lot more community buy-in.” As part of the new cost savings, commissioners approved a bascule movable span, a westside girder approach and reduced the width of the bridge. The current Burnside Bridge is a bascule bridge, which rotates open to provide unlimited clearance for river traffic. It also preserves the existing view corridor. County Public Information Officer Mike Pullen said there was broad public support for the bascule and girder but mixed support for narrowing the width. “Basically a theme that we heard from the public is if money was no object, we prefer the wider bridge you originally proposed: but we don’t want to prevent the project from getting built,” Pullen said. Andrew Holtz, the Multnomah County Bicycle and Pedestrian Citizen Advisory Committee chair shared his concerns with narrowing the bridge width during public comment. “The budget plan casts the choices between a skinny bridge and no bridge at all, that is a political calculation,” Holtz said. “Getting adequate funding is harder than settling for inadequate funding, but it’s worth the fight, climate action is not optional.” “This is not the ideal thing that we would be wanting to put forward, but it is with the reality of where costs are right now, the impacts of inflation and what we know we need to prioritize for this project in getting a bridge that will help Portland and Multnomah County stay as whole as possible, and recover as quickly as possible, after a Cascadia event,” Commissioner, Jessica Vega Pederson said. The Burnside Bridge is nearly 100 years old and is a major connection between the east and west sides of the Portland-metro area. County engineers say the current bridge would not withstand a magnitude 8+ Cascadia Subduction Zone earthquake that could hit the Pacific Northwest region at any time. The Earthquake Ready Burnside Bridge Project will replace the existing bridge with a new seismically-resilient crossing, so that it can be immediately used after a major earthquake. “It’s been 322 years since the last major Cascadia Subduction Zone earthquake and studies show there is a one in three chance of a major earthquake happening in the next 50 years in Oregon,” County Project Manager, Megan Neil said. “This is why the county has invested in the Earthquake Ready Burnside Bridge Project whose purpose is to really provide that one downtown bridge that’s going to be seismically resilient for our community to use.” At the onset of this project, Multnomah County conducted a feasibility study of more than 100 options, including tunnels, ferries, double-deck bridges and other bridge options. Four bridge alternatives from that study were recommended for additional evaluation in the Environmental Review Phase. This phase studies various environmental impacts the project could have on the surrounding area. The County asked the community to weigh in on the preferred alternative of the four options through a public engagement process. The Replacement Long Span was chosen as the most feasible option for having the lowest cost, its seismic resiliency and the fewest environmental impacts. The County then asked community members for thoughts on the type of long-span structure they would like to see built for the project. The options included girder, truss, tied arch and cable-supported structure. It also included bascule and lift choices for the bridge’s moveable span. In early 2021 County leaders raised concerns about the project’s overall costs due to various external factors, including pandemic-related inflation, and asked project leaders to find ways to reduce the cost of the project. The team found the three important cost refinements totaling roughly $200 million that the commissioners approved on Thursday. Project managers will now put together a Supplemental Draft Environmental Impact Statement which will be released in late April. The document describes the impacts of the cost-saving measures. There will be a public comment period before the Federal Highway Administration reviews the environmental impact statement. In late 2022, the project will publish the final environmental statement and complete the planning phase. Design of the new bridge is expected to start in late 2022. Construction would begin in 2025 and last four to five years. |
It frustrates me that it takes us a decade (or more) to plan and complete a simple bridge, mostly out of jealousy while watching other parts of the world build so quickly.
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The Alaskan Way viaduct tunnel was already, at 52 feet in diameter, the largest bored tunnel ever constructed on earth. It ran into a myriad number of problems not the least of which was that the thing broke down partially due to its size and required 2 1/2 billion dollars to dig it out just so they can re-launch it. Building an even larger tunnel is not only completely unnecessary for a city Portlands size to have the largest tunnel in the world, but would introduce major risk in such a project and would also drain Oregon‘s transportation budget for the next 50 years at the state level and possibly even federal matching dollars.
And as much as I hate sitting in traffic when I occasionally have to drive to Hillsboro, I don’t think spending billions of dollars for a roadway tunnel of a mile and a half under downtown Portland is the best use of funds… Particularly when you know it’s going to be tolled a significant amount, it’s not gonna serve nearly as many people as a train line could. A highway tunnel under downtown Portland will essentially be a gold plated roadway for wealthy commuters. Maybe get The Boring Compamy to build a privately funded hyper loop for you. |
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Is this the design they decided on?
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https://www.multco.us/earthquake-ready-burnside-bridge/design-phase |
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Hopefully this is a very prominent design. One recognized around the country. This location is just to perfect for it not to be
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Bridge designer Beam Architecture has joined the design team.
https://www.beam-architects.com/projects/ |
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