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rocketphish Jan 22, 2015 12:36 AM

319 Huntmar Dr. [Tanger Mall Phase 2] | 6x23m | 6x6f | Proposed
 
The proposed development is the second phase of the Tanger Outlet Centres development on the south side of the Feedmill Creek corridor. The development will consist of six (6) free-standing pads intended for restaurants, and one (1) six-storey hotel. The buildings are designed around a primary access driveway that connects Huntmar Drive in the east with the Creek crossing in the west. The hotel building is located at the south edge of the site, adjacent to the highway. Restaurants have generally been oriented along the north edge of the drive aisle, adjacent to the creek
corridor to preserve opportunities for interaction with the natural feature of the site.

The hotel is six (6) storeys and will contain approximately 134 rooms. The hotel has been centred on the Feedmill Creek Crossing, a private roadway linking the Tanger project, to create a vista for vehicles and pedestrians travelling south across the creek crossing. A similar design approach was taken with the retail centre buildings in Phase 1 to create a vista from the crossing.

The six (6) restaurant buildings have areas ranging from 365 square metres to 517 square metres. Each restaurant building has the opportunity to provide an outdoor patio space, subject to tenant specifications and requirements.

Development application:
http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/appDetails.jsf?lang=en&appId=__0IZ85F

Map:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7518/16335322991_132fbd7b18_b.jpg

Siteplan:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7545/16149711360_2c9542b8bd_b.jpg

Hotel Elevation:
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8605/16149722690_960ee00903_b.jpg

TransitZilla Jan 22, 2015 2:00 AM

I'll post the same thing that I submitted to the devapps site:

Quote:

This development should not proceed unless the pedestrian concerns on the Huntmar overpass can be addressed.

The proposed uses- hotels and restaurants- will attract patrons who want to vist before and after events at the Canadian Tire Centre, however there is no safe pedestrian route despite their proximity.

A solution to attach a pre-fab bridge structure to the outside of the overpass should be investigated as an interim measure. Failing this, the developer should agree to provide a frequent shuttle service across the highway before and after events at the Canadian Tire Centre.

Harley613 Jan 22, 2015 3:51 AM

Five new restaurants? Restaurants in Kanata are struggling as it is...

MountainView Jan 22, 2015 1:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley613 (Post 6884554)
Five new restaurants? Restaurants in Kanata are struggling as it is...

Are they? Every time I go, the ones in Centrum are always fairly busy.

PS - love your new IKEA Monkey logo pic!

MoreTrains Jan 22, 2015 2:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley613 (Post 6884554)
Five new restaurants? Restaurants in Kanata are struggling as it is...

I dont think restaurants in Kanata are struggling, but Tangers is struggling and needs to create as much pull as it can for patrons.

Harley613 Jan 22, 2015 2:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MountainView (Post 6884882)
Are they? Every time I go, the ones in Centrum are always fairly busy.

PS - love your new IKEA Monkey logo pic!

Thanks haha

Skirt Steak closed, 'Rare' is on life support, Philthy McNasty's didn't last, O'Connor's closed up shop, The Keg is still on hold. It's a tough market!

Proof Sheet Jan 22, 2015 2:27 PM

I'd forgotten about Philthy McNasty's. Never went to Skirt Steak but had bad reports from friends who went. O'Connor's was a brutal place and I'm not crazy about its replacement (very expensive for what you get...acoustics are awful).

I prefer the Cheshire Cat and in Centrum I like Ox Head and Tomasso's Pizza.

What happened to that dessert place in Centrum? and that place called the Bulldog or something like that? It was near Ox Head and seemed to be only open at night.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley613 (Post 6884906)
Thanks haha

Skirt Steak closed, 'Rare' is on life support, Philthy McNasty's didn't last, O'Connor's closed up shop, The Keg is still on hold. It's a tough market!


HighwayStar Jan 22, 2015 2:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bradnixon (Post 6884433)
...will attract patrons who want to vist before and after events at the Canadian Tire Centre...

Not exactly sure I'd want to build a business model around that :???:

OTSkyline Jan 22, 2015 2:52 PM

That's the thing with the Tanger Outlets as-is today.. they are nice but it's a drive in, shop a bit, then drive out type of place. If there were restaurants a hotel, a hopefully some apartments/condos then it could become more of a destination where people stay longer or are in the area for more than a stop at GAP.

Also agree, they would need to build a pedestrian overpass from the Outlets to CTC (I actually really like the glass one at Coventry/VIA Rail. But then again, I'm guessing the City might want the SENS to chip in on such crossing which they might not want to do; especially if they are proposing to move to Lebreton... hmmm...

eternallyme Jan 22, 2015 3:04 PM

The relative lack of residential in the area does not help either...

ryan1 Dec 16, 2023 12:09 PM

Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere, but plans for a Chick Fil A at 333 Huntmar (Tanger) were filed with the city in Spring 2023.

https://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Image...0Design%20Brief%20-%20D07-12-23-0030.PDF

osirisboy Dec 17, 2023 5:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Har13 (Post 10104118)
<profane post deleted>

Are you on crack. That place is a pos

CanadaGoose Dec 17, 2023 2:46 PM

Hasn't been posted.

Ive been told construction just recently started.

Har13 Dec 17, 2023 2:47 PM

I mean i really like it’s fried chicken sandwiches.

Harley613 Dec 17, 2023 3:12 PM

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Originally Posted by osirisboy (Post 10104397)
Are you on crack. That place is a pos

Whaaaa?? I'm in DC this weekend and I've eaten Chick Fil A twice. It's absolutely fricking amazing!!!!

BlackRedGold Dec 29, 2023 2:15 AM

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Originally Posted by osirisboy (Post 10104397)
Are you on crack. That place is a pos

I've heard its the best fast food chain around. Can't wait to have one locally.

Harley613 Dec 29, 2023 2:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackRedGold (Post 10110510)
I've heard its the best fast food chain around. Can't wait to have one locally.

Very simple menu. Very high quality. They grow their chickens in heaven.

rocketphish Dec 29, 2023 3:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley613 (Post 10110518)
Very simple menu. Very high quality. They grow their chickens in heaven.

They probably wish that they did... the owners are hyper-religious. They don't open their stores on Sundays. They're also highly controversial for their hard-core Christian social views.

https://www.businessinsider.com/cathy-family-chick-fil-a-fortune-net-worth-lifestyle-photos-2019-3

Harley613 Dec 29, 2023 3:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketphish (Post 10110524)
They probably wish that they did... the owners are hyper-religious. They don't open their stores on Sundays. They're also highly controversial for their hard-core Christian social views.

https://www.businessinsider.com/cathy-family-chick-fil-a-fortune-net-worth-lifestyle-photos-2019-3

I don't care about any of that, to each their own. I just love HeavenChicken M-S.

DTcrawler Dec 29, 2023 5:07 AM

Yeah, questionable social views aside, Chick Fil A is top notch. The arrival of popular US chains like Popeyes or Chipotle were different because the buzz stemmed mostly from the fact that they were previously unavailable to us, so that was part of the allure. But Chick Fil A is different in the sense that when I talk to my American friends who've lived within a short distance of a CFA franchise for many years, they STILL rave about how great it is (whereas Popeye's, Chipotle, etc. are nothing special to them). Hell, even my friends in Toronto wouldn't shut up about how they were only city in Canada to have Chick Fil A. So I'm definitely excited for this, but I just wish they were opening in a more central location. I plan to eat there a lot more often than I plan to go out to Tanger Outlets.

FutureWickedCity Dec 29, 2023 12:37 PM

I don't know what their food tastes like and I don't intend to find out. They are owned by a militant homophobe and their name is synonymous with hatred. Disappointed in the ppl here who "don't care about that stuff". Shame.

Harley613 Dec 29, 2023 1:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FutureWickedCity (Post 10110634)
I don't know what their food tastes like and I don't intend to find out. They are owned by a militant homophobe and their name is synonymous with hatred. Disappointed in the ppl here who "don't care about that stuff". Shame.

They have been moving away from their past over the last few years and disassociating from their old homophobic mandate the dead founder started. Virtually all large businesses and corporations have an unscrupulous history, to the point that I'd have to boycott the vast majority of them if I didn't support all of their past actions. Chick-fil-A is finally moving in the right direction....and they have HeavenChicken.

J.OT13 Dec 29, 2023 1:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley613 (Post 10110526)
I don't care about any of that, to each their own. I just love HeavenChicken M-S.

We could be having the same debate as with Stella Luna on the Retail thread.

Har13 Dec 29, 2023 2:32 PM

My two cents is that I am tolerant with groups that are not open with that stuff as I am tolerant with groups that support those stuff. I don’t think they preach hate. They just have different set of morals from you. That world has be come way too polarized.

Har13 Dec 29, 2023 2:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FutureWickedCity (Post 10110634)
I don't know what their food tastes like and I don't intend to find out. They are owned by a militant homophobe and their name is synonymous with hatred. Disappointed in the ppl here who "don't care about that stuff". Shame.

^An answer to this.

BlackRedGold Dec 29, 2023 7:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketphish (Post 10110524)
They probably wish that they did... the owners are hyper-religious. They don't open their stores on Sundays.

I'm not at all religious but I have to respect people who put their values over money. Can't wait to try their chicken.

SimpleEng Dec 30, 2023 1:35 AM

This is amazing news! I've heard great things about the food and the company culture (e.g. they seem to treat the employees better than competitors) and I'm excited to try the Chicken!

Given the limited food options at Tanger and the fact that this is the first Canadian Chick-fil-A outside of southern Ontario I expect they will be quite busy.

Does anyone know if Panera Bread will be adding new locations? Tanger would be a perfect location for Panera Bread.

Tariq20 Mar 1, 2024 11:56 PM

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53562416294_56c89637ea_c.jpg Chick-fil-a Taken today

huntclub Jul 18, 2024 12:46 AM

The Chick Fil a is opening tomorrow July 18th.

AuxTown Jul 18, 2024 2:30 PM

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Originally Posted by huntclub (Post 10247784)
The Chick Fil a is opening tomorrow July 18th.

Looks like an epic drive-thru. I imagine they are expecting some serious demand.

phil235 Jul 18, 2024 3:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AuxTown (Post 10248120)
Looks like an epic drive-thru. I imagine they are expecting some serious demand.

If it's like the one in Kitchener, it is quite an operation. Dual drive through, plus a system where roving employees take orders while you are waiting and then delivers it to your table. Haven't made it out to this one, but the building in Kitchener is a notch up from your typical fast food.

DTcrawler Jul 18, 2024 8:30 PM

I’m eager to try it but not eager enough to wait hours in line. Crumbl has been open at College Square for a while now and still regularly has 1-2 hr+ lineups at all times of the day. I wonder if placing a mobile order would help avoid the wait. If anyone gives it a shot, please do share your experience. I normally only venture out that far into the boonies for Sens games or golf, so I want to make it worth the trip lol.

BlueJay Jul 18, 2024 10:40 PM

Maybe once the Chick-Fil-A opens in Rideau Centre in a couple of months, it will help spread the crowd.

DTcrawler Jul 19, 2024 3:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueJay (Post 10248471)
Maybe once the Chick-Fil-A opens in Rideau Centre in a couple of months, it will help spread the crowd.

The Rideau Centre location is the one I'm really looking forward to, it just sucks that hours will be limited to the opening hours of the mall. Would be nice if they had a street-facing entrance to let them stay open longer like Chipotle.

J.OT13 May 13, 2026 3:52 PM

Updated proposal. This was an opportunity to integrate residential into the pedestrian village esthetic and built form of the Tanger, but of course this ends up being a separate thing surrounded by galores of parking. I do like the design of the buildings though, colour and roof lines.

DevApps: https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applications/D07-12-26-0037/details

Description: The Applicant is proposing to construct six (6) multi-unit residential buildings of six (6) storeys in height onthe Subject Property, as shown in Figure 6 below. The proposed development will create 472 new residentialunits to achieve a density of 146 units per gross hectare and a floor space index of 1.27. The proposeddevelopment will provide 551 parking spaces, 195 of which are provided within underground parkadesassociated with each building, and 62 bicycle parking spaces.

Site Plan:

https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/forum/attachments/1778687156170-png.736290/

Renderings:

https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/forum/attachments/1778687162923-png.736291/

https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/forum/attachments/1778687210312-png.736292/

https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/forum/attachments/1778687227688-png.736293/

https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/forum/attachments/1778687242644-png.736294/

rocketphish May 13, 2026 4:20 PM

Additional details:

The unit mix includes 40 studio units, 63 one-bedroom units, 169 two-bedroom units, and 200 three-bedroom units to provide a diverse range of housing options. Each unit type includes various floor plan options in order to best accommodate a range of design preferences for future residents.

Vehicular access is provided via Huntmar Drive to the east and the unnamed road to the north which connects to the ring road associated with the neighbouring Tanger Outlet shopping centre. This unnamed road is currently constructed to the property line of the Subject Property but closed to the public.

Given the proximity to Highway 417, there are no buildings proposed to be located within the 14-metre Ministry of Transportation Ontario setback area. The only development occurring within this setback area includes landscaping, drive aisles, and parking spaces.


Architect: mcCallumSather



Location:

https://i.imgur.com/UFG6bIm.png


Siteplan:

https://i.imgur.com/Ydvf2YL.png


Renderings:

https://i.imgur.com/FqpHIZr.png

https://i.imgur.com/pCRXetJ.png

https://i.imgur.com/z0Bh3NP.png

https://i.imgur.com/sHUYOiV.png

https://i.imgur.com/brNvyMV.png

https://i.imgur.com/eMnLkzr.png

https://i.imgur.com/mN8iHRK.png

https://i.imgur.com/lOScqUr.png

skyscraperaccount May 13, 2026 7:17 PM

Not until Huntmar / LRT is dealt with imo. Does being in the TOD impact the proposed parking for this?

Its a gawd awful location but if folks want to live there have fun.

BGO May 13, 2026 11:16 PM

That parking lot is a crime in 2026!

OttawaSkyriseLover May 14, 2026 2:11 PM

This has to be the worst location for housing I've ever seen. Right next to a highway? Two-road access with one of the streets going through a shopping complex?

This could have been okay if they made two high-rises with green space and no surface parking. Who would live here? You know they're gonna be priced the same as a condo downtown!

AuxTown May 14, 2026 3:35 PM

We are going full Calgary with this design. Their downtown might be amazing but the surrounding city is filled with crap like this. It looks like it was rendered in MS Paint. Hopefully, they can come up with something a little more inspired for the final product.

You don't even have to look far! Just down the road in Kanata Lakes we have the Uniform condos on Boundstone:

https://photos.zolo.ca/205-180-boundstone-way-ottawa-X13046512-1-p.jpg?2026-04-27+06%3A57%3A07

or even the Foxwood which is a few years older:

https://lifereg.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/140-Guelph-Prive-_-Kanata-ON-1-scaled.jpg

Nice landscaping, primarily underground parking, not directly abutting a 400 series highway :(


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