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Deepstar Oct 8, 2014 4:16 PM

ALT Hotel Proposal
 
I thought this would be worthy of a poll seeing as so many seem to hate this proposal, but some like it.

http://i.imgur.com/JnHyjkg.jpg

Deepstar Oct 8, 2014 4:25 PM

Myself, I voted depends on materials. If the facade is stucco, it won't be good, but if it's aluminium or some sort of spandrel type material, it could be good. Painted concrete would even be good.

Spring2008 Oct 8, 2014 4:30 PM

Neutral, suppose I was just expecting more when I heard Germain Group was building another hotel here.

Big Sky Oct 8, 2014 4:47 PM

I like the big Maxwell Bates like windows :tup:

Spring2008 Oct 8, 2014 5:22 PM

Some of those interior shots are pretty funky looking, see top of their twitter page

https://twitter.com/ALTHotel

CorporateWhore Oct 8, 2014 5:22 PM

I don't think it's ugly by any means, and in some ways the simplicity of it will be more timeless than a lot of over-wrought details you see on condos today....but I was definitely hoping for a little more imagination with this one considering the location.

Jimby Oct 8, 2014 5:26 PM

I like the Alt logo.

red_179 Oct 8, 2014 5:41 PM

I like it better than the EV Hilton.

Surrealplaces Oct 8, 2014 5:51 PM

100% dependant on materials. I like the simple massing, and the windows, but if this thing is stucco, then forget it. :( Other metallic panelling like Alucobond, zinc or whatever metal panelling they are using on Mustard seed would be okay. I'm also giving it points for not being mustard/mocha/burgundy, etc...

Design-mind Oct 8, 2014 6:37 PM

^^^Agree the materials could make or break the look of this building. I honestly was expecting something more architecturally out there from the Germaine Group of hotels.

HomeInMyShoes Oct 8, 2014 7:17 PM

^But the alt brand has been pretty much what is pictured above or worse in Canada. It's trying to be something that is sort of funky post-industrial, but to me it is screaming I took a great old factory-window warehouse building and slapped some stone-stamped coloured concrete on it and got this. It's not hideous, but I don't really like it much.

Habanero Oct 8, 2014 7:22 PM

I like the windows.

CorporateWhore Oct 8, 2014 7:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surrealplaces (Post 6760889)
I'm also giving it points for not being mustard/mocha/burgundy, etc...

Points should not be given for not picking atrocious condiment colors. That should be a given out of anyone with a modicum of taste (you know, like a 3 year old).

DoubleK Oct 8, 2014 7:40 PM

Where is this going again?

suburbia Oct 8, 2014 9:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleK (Post 6761096)
Where is this going again?

In the vicinity of the public washroom.

shogged Oct 8, 2014 11:14 PM

considering le germain ended up with some of the best "materials" of the last cycle, I have faith this project will be a sleeper hit.

Cage Oct 9, 2014 12:37 AM

I voted it down but only because its a boutique hotel rather than something from the global chain hotels (Hilton, Marriott, Starwood, Accor, etc). Calgary needs more full service hotels in the downtown core and the Alt Hotels competes for the same clientele.

Chadillaccc Oct 9, 2014 12:39 AM

Hey man, if they can actually get their shit together and get shovels in the ground, which no other hotel project seems to be able to accomplish, than I say all the power to them. Lame design, but at least it's a hotel.

Tills13 Oct 9, 2014 2:15 AM

This really really depends on the material. I'd like to see some matte stone or metal, personally.

RyLucky Oct 9, 2014 4:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sky (Post 6760761)
I like the big Maxwell Bates like windows :tup:

I like the #windows too. Squares are forever.

I voted "like it". It's nothing special design-wise but a good use for the corner. This would be a hit nearly anywhere else in the city.

RyLucky Oct 9, 2014 4:09 AM

I think I need a few more angles before I can decide for sure.

Rusty van Reddick Oct 9, 2014 9:06 AM

Very Euro. I like it a lot.

Surrealplaces Oct 9, 2014 3:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CorporateWhore (Post 6761072)
Points should not be given for not picking atrocious condiment colors. That should be a given out of anyone with a modicum of taste (you know, like a 3 year old).

Very true lol! I don't know why it seems so hard to designers to go with blacks/whites/grays. They are classic colors that don't go out of style.

TallBob Oct 10, 2014 6:48 AM

Belongs at the Airport! I know, I've said it before!

Spring2008 Oct 10, 2014 7:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty van Reddick (Post 6761906)
Very Euro. I like it a lot.

Euro trash :P

Spring2008 Oct 21, 2014 2:14 AM

Is this getting built in the lot directly east of First?

suburbia Oct 21, 2014 4:52 AM

I just realized that this design will be a twin for Calgary. It looks just like the Marlborough Inn!

Deepstar Oct 21, 2014 3:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suburbia (Post 6776368)
I just realized that this design will be a twin for Calgary. It looks just like the Marlborough Inn!

Brilliant conclusion Sherlock! They both contain some white therefore they are twins. :haha:

Chadillaccc Oct 21, 2014 5:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spring2008 (Post 6776219)
Is this getting built in the lot directly east of First?

Yes

suburbia Oct 21, 2014 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deepstar (Post 6776754)
Brilliant conclusion Sherlock! They both contain some white therefore they are twins. :haha:

The original pre-renovation Marborough Inn, which was the smaller of two Coast Plaza Hotel towers as they are now, and looked exactly like the Alt hotel. You may laugh, but it is actually true. I know you downtowners are proud of Alt, and I suppose it does add some rooms no matter how you cut it, but the reality of it is that 1970's Marlborough has already been there and done that. Arguably it was and is successful, so perhaps that's why the compliment of duplication.

Spring2008 Oct 22, 2014 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suburbia (Post 6777457)
The original pre-renovation Marborough Inn, which was the smaller of two Coast Plaza Hotel towers as they are now, and looked exactly like the Alt hotel. You may laugh, but it is actually true. I know you downtowners are proud of Alt, and I suppose it does add some rooms no matter how you cut it, but the reality of it is that 1970's Marlborough has already been there and done that. Arguably it was and is successful, so perhaps that's why the compliment of duplication.



lol

Surrealplaces Oct 22, 2014 2:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suburbia (Post 6777457)
The original pre-renovation Marborough Inn, which was the smaller of two Coast Plaza Hotel towers as they are now, and looked exactly like the Alt hotel. You may laugh, but it is actually true. I know you downtowners are proud of Alt, and I suppose it does add some rooms no matter how you cut it, but the reality of it is that 1970's Marlborough has already been there and done that. Arguably it was and is successful, so perhaps that's why the compliment of duplication.

I can see some similarities. They are both similar scale and massing and have white and black as the main colors. There are some difference though....the windows on Alt are much nicer, and even I think ALT will be stucco or EIFS, it'll be nicer than the old 70's stucco on the Marlbourough Inn.

Spring2008 Oct 22, 2014 2:42 AM

You gotta give him some troll points there though!

suburbia Oct 22, 2014 3:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surrealplaces (Post 6777724)
I can see some similarities. They are both similar scale and massing and have white and black as the main colors. There are some difference though....the windows on Alt are much nicer, and even I think ALT will be stucco or EIFS, it'll be nicer than the old 70's stucco on the Marlbourough Inn.

I agree regarding the windows, and so you're right, the design has improved somewhat 40+ years later.

Interestingly, when you look at large sized banquet halls in the city, they are limited to:
- Hyatt
- Westin
- Palomino Room
- Red & White Club
- Coast Plaza (the Marlborough Inn)

And in fact the Coast Plaza is much better than the Red & White.

Too bad Alt won't have facilities like that.

Full Mountain Oct 22, 2014 5:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surrealplaces (Post 6777724)
I can see some similarities. They are both similar scale and massing and have white and black as the main colors. There are some difference though....the windows on Alt are much nicer, and even I think ALT will be stucco or EIFS, it'll be nicer than the old 70's stucco on the Marlbourough Inn.

If that's the one I'm thinking of that's straight concrete, no stucco there.

https://www.google.ca/maps/search/marlbo...3m4!1e1!3m2!1sMxDoZPa1m4LvHrdBERsT9g!2e0

TallBob Oct 23, 2014 2:40 AM

With this... Vinyl siding will do!

Spring2008 Mar 8, 2016 8:01 PM

I kind of like this one.

Quote:

Kevin Griffiths ‏@YYCbldgServs 33m33 minutes ago
@DruhFarrell East Village will soon have more places to stay. BP application for ALT Hotel has been submitted.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdDJHaOUEAEDBee.jpg:large
https://twitter.com/DruhFarrell?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Luk_o Mar 9, 2016 12:00 AM

Has anything been confirmed as to what the cladding material will be?

craner Mar 9, 2016 8:59 AM

I'm not lovin' this design for the Alt but it's marginally better that the EV Hilton going up - that thing is a fail.

People.talking Mar 9, 2016 6:01 PM

does anyone know where its supposed to be built?

CCF Mar 9, 2016 6:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by People.talking (Post 7364832)
does anyone know where its supposed to be built?

Next (east of) to First, across from the Simmons building.

Will start construction in 2016.

AaronMak Mar 10, 2016 4:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luk_o (Post 7363950)
Has anything been confirmed as to what the cladding material will be?

It's really hard to tell from the proposal, but given whats been going on in the neighbourhood and the stark colour contrast I would not be surprised if it was done with alucobond-style panelling. Its cost effective and looks sharp.

H.E.Pennypacker Mar 10, 2016 2:55 PM

I recall seeing an ALT Hotel by Pearson Airport in Toronto last year with a similar design and colour. I can't remember what the materials were in detail but I do remember that it didn't look that bad. Nothing mind blowing but not cheap.

The Fisher Account Mar 10, 2016 3:49 PM

I assume this will be THE hotel to be at in the summers when there's the Fort Calgary concerts (Bigtime's favourite time of the year!)

Chadillaccc Mar 10, 2016 7:25 PM

I wouldn't be surprised to see the white parts done in brick. This is supposed to be a "loft" style hotel afterall, so they may want to go with that motif.


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