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That place is going to be awesome in a 10 years or so when everything is built out and matured some.
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We did the same thing today! I will say that I was very pleasantly surprised by several things in the development. While stylistically the development is not our "cup of tea".... we really understood the mass appeal of the design. We talked to sereral folks we knew and heard their very positive response to what they were seeing. I also liked the fact that there was a wide range of builders and price range. Land use was as good as I think you will see in that type of development. Homes were really on the least of mount of land possible... and then great amounts of room was used for green space, trails, playscapes, lakes.
Almost everything out there that has been build has been sold! Looks like it is being received very well. Of course I would have loved to have seen a more modern option in the designs, but hey, I am a minority. These homes have really hit the target for the mass market of the moment. |
Great pics. This whole process of redeveloping the old airport has been very interesting. And I think it is such a cool thing that they left the old control tower. Gotta leave it, it's basically an Austin landmark. How cool is it that you can see it from some of those neighborhood streets.
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I'm also curious about the base of the tower, where the terminal building used to be. Perhaps a new structure will surround the bare concrete base? The project maps seem to indicate the tower will be situated within a park setting. I guess we'll see. Lots of opportunities there. |
I like the way that neighborhood looks.
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I am really hoping for an observation deck. The tower isn't all that tall, only 86 feet, but because of how close it is to downtown, the views would be good. I would imagine you'd be able to just about any highrise up and down I-35 and within Central Austin. If a park is going to surround it, they might just be planning an observation deck for it. :fingerscrossed:
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I've been out to Mueller a bunch of times in the past months. I _REALLY_ want to move there. The only problem is that you can't really get in there without about $260k. That's for a pretty small crappy home. If you want anything fairly nice you need to have at the minimum $300k. What's interesting though is that if you go out to Kyle, Buda, Cedar Park, or Round Rock you can get a house twice the size for the same amount of money. Must be location, because there are no good ways of getting into town from the suburbs (M1EK can attest to this I'm sure!)
I've talked to a couple of the builders out there and their phase 1 stuff sold out without people even looking at the floor plans. As a result they are increasing their prices by 10% pretty much across the board! I'm hoping by the time I'm ready to buy the market there will cool off and prices will come down. I really want the apartments to be ready there by the time my lease runs out so I can give the neighborhood a test drive for a few months and save a bit more cash to get the house I want there. ;) |
This place looks awesome! I love how the homes all vary from one another, with differences rather than all cookie cutter designs. It is an awesome neighborhood right in the middle of the city.
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It's a bit too suburban for my taste, but better than what could be there. It's a lot like Stapleton.
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It looks like a great development.
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Are there no garages in the houses?
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You can see garages in this pic, across the lake: http://images28.fotki.com/v1030/photos/5/54967/4065809/P1050442-vi.jpg |
I do like the houses. The stone work is nice, and I like the windows.
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Oooops just saw Mopacs answered this. I took some time to see what the average house price is in Austin right now.... couldn't find it.... know it is in the mid 200's, right? Does anyone know how the prices at Mueller compare to the Austin average? Seems like they stacked the deck with a good bit of properties that are at or below the average in Austin. But heck. with that location, I couldn't imagine expecting to find things much below the average, cause the average property does not have that location! ( well, I guess if you want be close to the center of town!) |
Ugh, I hate when the garages are in the back of the houses. The alleys are usually too small and can cause more of a traffic jam than if they were on the roads.
Anyhow, it looks like a great development. I like that they kept the control tower, and I also hope they turn it into an observation deck or something. |
The one thing I love about this whole Mueller project is that the control tower remained. Whoever came up with that idea is pure Genius, IMO.
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An Urban-Suburban neighborhood. I Like that the garages are in the back so it doesn't interfere with the pedestrians in the neighborhood walking on the sidewalks. But I wish the sidewalks were a bit wider. Hardly anyone can walk on those little things. They still did a pretty good job. |
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http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/s...3/19/home_sales_drop_for_eighth_con.html IMHO, the Mueller development seems overpriced vs what you can get in other parts of central Austin with less neighborhood risk. |
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I do think the Mueller prices are a great deal if you can qualify for the "affordable" plans, but buying one of the 3000 sq ft plans at the current price there without seeing how that neighborhood builds out seems risky. I don't love the location either since it still means lots of time spent on I-35. So, if something can be had more in central Austin at a comparative or close to comparative price, I'd choose the central Austin property. |
these are great photos Mopacs....like the way this is turning out!
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It was added in January, 2008 and looks to be taken right around then as the "Noel" Christmas decoration is visible on the outside of the tower. It's filthy inside, there's a turd and a dead bird and other crap in the stairwells near the top and lots of old paperwork in boxes and binders just scattered around. The whole thing is 7:53 and they don't get to the top until the last minute or so. You also get occasional glimpses of Mueller construction on the way up and just before they make it into the top of the tower, they're on the outside part just below and you get a couple of quick looks at the skyline far off in the distance. posted by mancrushonporter |
^ Very, very cool.
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ha, so the tower is basically open then?? well not publicly but anyone can 'basically' get in?
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It's open to animals apparently.
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Very nice slick looking development.
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but does it promote "walkability" any more than traditional neighborhoods with garages in front? i have to wonder if this doesn't actually make the neighborhood less friendly, since everyone will be sneaking in and out of the backs of their homes - how will anyone ever meet their neighbors? i dont know - maybe i'm just being a cynic, but wider sidewalks would do much more for me than alley garages...then again i don't even have a garage (it is a rented out cottage) so what do i know? :shrug: |
no front yards? .... i am guessing not much of a back yard either. :yuck:
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W00T! I'm getting a home here! :) YAY! :D
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looks cool!
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Looks like Austin is following the same concept that Denver is, using abandoned airports for redevelopment.
Are there any stores or offices within walking distance? |
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They have a cool interactive map at: http://www.muelleraustin.com/interactive_map/index.html For me I'm about 4 houses to the east of the first park they have built in the second phase. I'm going to get a bike trailer for my daughter and going to the town center/heb. I could walk on a nice day in a few minutes or I could take my bike and get there really quickly. :) Oh and if the LR gets approved it's going to be built through Mueller. I plan on getting a pass and I could take it to the Town Center among other places! Check out the map and you can see where everything is going! |
There's nothing within walking distance now - and the Town Center is still a dream on paper. I found it very disappointing that the first stuff built at Mueller is just suburban homes real-close-together; only then a bit of standard suburban-style multifamily; no VMU; no Town Center until much later.
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paul, they haven't started building the Town Center at all - they just started having meetings about it. It's still many years off - and like I said, a lot of things can happen - so you shouldn't assume anything at this point.
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They aren't building the Town Center - they're still having public meetings about what will be in it. Check out muellercommunity.com if you don't believe me.
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They're going to be raising the top of the new water tower at Mueller. They probably won't be able to do it until the weather improves since we have better rain chances tomorrow and Friday. The tower will be 170 feet tall. They've already built the shaft, now they have to jack the top into place using jack stands and cables on the top. It'll be fairly noticeable around town. I've already seen the shaft from St. Ed's in South Austin. The tower will have solar panels on top.
http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/water/writower.htm More info including a comment that buildings at Mueller may approach 120 feet tall. http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/water/downloads/51stpacrecommendation.pdf http://garreth.featuredblog.com/?p=86&inm=200809 |
From Garreth Wilcox' blog, Mueller Town Center looking further and further out in the distance.
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