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Originally Posted by CIA
Toronto may be an amazing city for residents, but it could use a tad of work making it more inviting to visitors.
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It could, but should it? From what I gather, you're from New York, a city that most locals seem to think was better before it rolled out the red carpet to Middle American tourists (I would be inclined to agree). Toronto on the other hand can be a very (passively) unwelcoming, secretive sort of place - closed-off to people who aren't locals or in-the-know visitors (of course, it's really not that hard to find out these sorts of things these days). But for those that are, its urban, cultural, and hedonistic delights are plentiful. A little "elitist" perhaps, but I think most of us would prefer to keep it that way than to water it down for mass consumption.
On the flipside, it is kind of embarrassing to think of the impression that most tourists must get considering just how dull and characterless the tourist pens we do have are. I wouldn't be opposed to putting more shiny baubles in these areas to entertain them at least. But let's keep the rest of the city for the people who actually live here or have some passion for it.
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Originally Posted by Acajack
A word of caution: be careful not to dwell too much on the liquor laws (as archaic as they might be - I totally agree) as for some reason you'll get quickly labelled as an obsessed alcoholic on there and this will taint your other observations and views in the eyes of some, for some reason.
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Oh, don't be daft. You know well and good that you're speaking in reference to Habsfanman, who's entire raison d'etre was that everything about Toronto is awful because there's no beer in corner stores and things close an hour earlier than they do in Montreal. And if you're someone that finds a city to be the urban equivalent of the seventh circle of hell because you have to walk an extra 10 minutes to grab a beer - you might just have a drinking problem. Either that or you're 15 and still think that it's the be all and end all of coolness.
We've otherwise had plenty of discussions on here about liberalizing liquor laws in Ontario, which have never had anything less than near-unanimous support, let alone accusations of alcoholism.
And it absolutely is relevant than it's a provincial issue. It's not because the people Timmins and Listowel are holding us back - most Ontarians, whether in Toronto or elsewhere want more liberal liquor laws - but because the provincial government has too much to lose by opening themselves up to competition. Either way, there's not really anything that the City can do about it.
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