BC Political Discussion: Election 2020 and Beyond - Page 24

whatnext · #**461** Posted **May 2, 2022, 1:57 AM**

As predicted the mayors wife got her ass handed to her in Vancouver Quilchena:

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6436958

cov · #**462** Posted **May 2, 2022, 3:03 AM**

Whats your prediction on the mayor's election tho?

whatnext · #**463** Posted **May 2, 2022, 5:02 PM**

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Whats your prediction on the mayor's election tho?

Stewart will likely win as Coupar, Sim and to a lesser degree Marissen will split the opposition vote. Meanwhile the Greens and COPE have obviously agreed not to run mayoral candidates in order to help Stewart.

cov · #**464** Posted **May 2, 2022, 9:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Stewart will likely win as Coupar, Sim and to a lesser degree Marissen will split the opposition vote. Meanwhile the Greens and COPE have obviously agreed not to run mayoral candidates in order to help Stewart.

How come green and cope can coordinate with Stewart but Ken, NPA, team and Marissen can't coordinating with each other? More importantly how many team members are getting elected do you think?

Migrant_Coconut · #**465** Posted **May 2, 2022, 9:19 PM**

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How come green and cope can coordinate with Stewart but Ken, NPA, and Marissen can't coordinating with each other? More importantly how many team members are getting elected do you think?
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Conflicting interests? NPA's mostly reactionaries, Marissen's a plutocrat, and Ken Sim's a populist.

Zero mayors - nobody needs a crystal ball for that one.

cov · #**466** Posted **May 3, 2022, 12:26 AM**

Team definitely isn't ready to be mayor but what about council?

COPE, green, and Stewart also have conflicting interests. Greens are mostly conservationists with a sizable nimby faction. COPE wants rent control and 0 market rate housing, which neither greens nor Stewart support. OneCity is the most aligned with Stewart which is why I think they got endorsed by Eby and Ma. I personally hope OneCity gets at least 3 seats.

Migrant_Coconut · #**467** Posted **May 3, 2022, 12:59 AM**

If Hardwick was still running for council, that'd be a possible win. As it is, anybody who's not Green or NPA is going to have a hard time.

Yeah, but COPE/Green/OneCity/Forward Together (Stewart really needs a less-cringey PR team) all have basically the same line on bike lanes, rentals and plastic bags - what does the right agree on?

Changing City · #**468** Posted **May 3, 2022, 9:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Stewart will likely win as Coupar, Sim and to a lesser degree Marissen will split the opposition vote. Meanwhile the Greens and COPE have obviously agreed not to run mayoral candidates in order to help Stewart.

So you're saying that the progressive parties are intelligent, but the right-leaning parties are too dumb to work out how they might win? Sounds fair. Presumably Hardwick will get a few votes from NIMBYs too, further splintering the vote.

GenWhy? · #**469** Posted **May 3, 2022, 10:23 PM**

If it was Sims vs Kennedy ALONE I bet hands down Sims would win.

Migrant_Coconut · #**470** Posted **May 3, 2022, 10:29 PM**

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If it was Sims vs Kennedy ALONE I bet hands down Sims would win.

I wouldn't count on it. Stewart only got 3/5ths of the left vote last election (the rest went to Shauna Sylvester) and he still won.

GenWhy? · #**471** Posted **May 3, 2022, 11:03 PM**

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I wouldn't count on it. Stewart only got 3/5ths of the left vote last election (the rest went to Shauna Sylvester) and he still won.

Ya I guess on a local level I don't consider the small voting public to vote for someone as a "in order to prevent "x" from getting in". I just anticipate people abstain, but I've been proven wrong many a times in Alberta mayor races I guess.

Well that makes me feel better.

whatnext · #**472** Posted **May 3, 2022, 11:27 PM**

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So you're saying that the progressive parties are intelligent, but the right-leaning parties are too dumb to work out how they might win? Sounds fair. Presumably Hardwick will get a few votes from NIMBYs too, further splintering the vote.

Too many egos at work plus whatever is going on with the NPA

WarrenC12 · #**473** Posted **May 4, 2022, 3:41 PM**

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Ya I guess on a local level I don't consider the small voting public to vote for someone as a "in order to prevent "x" from getting in". I just anticipate people abstain, but I've been proven wrong many a times in Alberta mayor races I guess.

Well that makes me feel better.

I wouldn't put too much thought into municipal elections. The voters don't either, and turnout is extremely low.

whatnext · #**474** Posted **May 4, 2022, 7:28 PM**

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I wouldn't put too much thought into municipal elections. The voters don't either, and turnout is extremely low.

Which of course is foolish. Municipal government has a huge effect on people's quality of life. And as for taxes, can you imagine of the Feds tried to quietly push through a 5.7% increase in income tax? Yet property taxes have gone up that much year over year in Vancouver.

WarrenC12 · #**475** Posted **May 4, 2022, 8:05 PM**

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Which of course is foolish. Municipal government has a huge effect on people's quality of life. And as for taxes, can you imagine of the Feds tried to quietly push through a 5.7% increase in income tax? Yet property taxes have gone up that much year over year in Vancouver.

I agree. Although 5.7% of property tax is nothing on an absolute basis compared to an income tax increase.

s211 · #**476** Posted **May 5, 2022, 3:45 AM**

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Which of course is foolish. Municipal government has a huge effect on people's quality of life. And as for taxes, can you imagine of the Feds tried to quietly push through a 5.7% increase in income tax? Yet property taxes have gone up that much year over year in Vancouver.

And like every new tax that comes along, the funds to pay for that 5.7% increase come from after-tax dollars, no less.

The real tax amount is far more than what tax-drunk bureaucrats and politicians will ever dare to admit.