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[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA

Lorendoc's right, the intersection is Temple and Spring. From the view from the GoogleMobile
it looks like an air raid siren's still there as well.

Whoop there it is.


GSV


It appears to be hooked up.



I assumed the remaining sirens were simply old relics. Are they still used on occasion?

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[ethereal_reality]

Long Beach food stand. 1930s? (I'm guessing by the automobiles) THE SMALL SIGN HANGING FROM THE FRONT AWNING SAYS "HOT PUPPIES"


longbeach_historicalphotos

I couldn't help but notice that the food stand appears more 'modern' than the cars that surround it.

What first caught my eye is that square area on the front of the stand.


Is this an automatic drink dispenser?



If not, what else could it be?



Also note how the two bread-basket-like compartment on the counter face the customers.



Initially I thought it was for self-service (you know, reach in and retrieve your steamy hotdog),
but if you look closely the compartments angle downward in the back. Now I'm guessing they're for trash instead.
(so the trash is going in to where the food is prepared.
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All very important questions

[ethereal_reality]

Oh wait. I forgot about the mystery building that looks like a fort.



I believe there is a tall flagpole on top.

[BDiH]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I don't believe we have seen this air raid siren location on nla.

Sunset Blvd. at Pacific Coast highway. [c.1970]


PINTEREST / BUT THE LINK IS BROKEN

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There is an original air raid siren in front of the Tarzana Beauty Salon on Clark Street near Reseda Boulevard. Every time I have lunch at Mort's Deli or buy pastries at Bea's Bakery, I enjoy gazing up at the forgotten relic.

Ralph Herman, whose family purchased Edgar Rice Burrough's ranch from Burrough's decades before, tells the story of the Japanese war plane that flew over Reseda Park during the war.

Mr. Herman was there with his family, when they observed the aircraft flying towards Cahuenga Pass. He said The Tarzana Army Camp, then installed on the Tarzana Ranch, fired anti-aircraft guns at the plane, which escaped unharmed.

Mr. Herman said the incident was later used in the film, Steven Spielberg film, 1941.

[acorn8332]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Whoop there it is.


GSV


It appears to be hooked up.



I assumed the remaining sirens were simply old relics. Are they still used on occasion?

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I was aiming my Instamatic at the "Mission Bell" street light on Temple, but caught a bit of the City Hall siren. It would have still been functional at the time of this October 1969 photo.

[CaliNative]

Originally Posted by odinthor

It was built along the old diagonal alignment of New High St., and remained after they straightened the old streets and other buildings set to that alignment were gone. Both New High and Spring were at an angle to the other streets. If I'm not mistaken, the original diagonal Spring St. more or less followed the line of an Indian trail; and the (original) alignment of Spring doubtless was responsible for the original alignment of its immediate neighbor to the west, New High. When they straightened streets so that everything was on a right-angle grid (bah! to that kind of thinking, sez me), that portion of New High disappeared.

L.A.'s gothic-noirish "castle"--the kooky old Hall of Records & Courthouse, demolished in 1973. Note the angled line of the building from the old alignment of New High St. This view from the L.A. Times not long before it was torn down to make way for the mall extension. The building on the right under construction is the new Superior Courts building.

https://latimesphoto.files.wordpress...rdsfile500.jpg

[Lomara]

Originally Posted by Lorendoc

I can see it, a nice then/now combination on Bay Street. Using MS Edge browser.

I'm on a Mac, so no microsoft browser here.

[AlvaroLegido]

Originally Posted by CaliNative

L.A.'s gothic-noirish "castle"--the kooky old Hall of Records & Courthouse, demolished in 1973. Note the angled line of the building from the old alignment of New High St. This view from the L.A. Times not long before it was torn down to make way for the mall extension. The building on the right under construction is the new Superior Courts building.

https://latimesphoto.files.wordpress...rdsfile500.jpg

CaliNative you seem very interested in the Hall of Records. Just leaf through the first pages of Noirish Los Angeles.

[ethereal_reality]

35mm Slide Los Angeles 1963 Street Scene IHOP House of Pancakes Sunset Blvd


EBAY

I don't remember this IHOP on Sunset Boulevard. The only IHOP I remember is the one at Santa Monica Blvd. and Holloway Drive. THIS ONE

p.s. Is this even Sunset Blvd?

[ethereal_reality]

Here's another 1963 slide.

35mm Slide Knotts Berry Farm 1963 Street Scene Sign


EBAY

This must be Grand Avenue (in Buena Park, of course), but Knotts has grown so much over the years it's rather difficult to be 100% sure.
The statue appears to be on a corner (the cross street is visible behind the miner & his mule), so perhaps this isn't near the actual entrance to the park.

I just noticed the Highway 39 sign.

[ethereal_reality]

P.O.P. Ocean Park with a nice view of the old dome in the distance.

35mm Slide Pacific Ocean Park Santa Monica POP Diving Bells 1960


EBAY

To be honest, I thought it (the dome) had burnt down by 1960. (and I thought there was only one diving bell) MY MEMORY SUCKS.




close-up - Sorry about the lint storm.


DETAIL

The dome is rather beautiful.

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[Scott Charles]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

35mm Slide Los Angeles 1963 Street Scene IHOP House of Pancakes Sunset Blvd


EBAY

I don't remember this IHOP on Sunset Boulevard. The only IHOP I remember is the one at Santa Monica Blvd. and Holloway Drive. THIS ONE

p.s. Is this even Sunset Blvd?

That IHOP is still there:

GSV

The Sunset Orange Hotel was where the IN-N-OUT Burger is now.

LINK

The building seen beyond the palms on the left is the Blessed Sacrament church, next to the Crossroads of the World. To the right of it can be seen the rooftop of the Hollywood Athletic Club. Behind the palm trees to the left is Hollywood High School.

[Lorendoc]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Oh wait. I forgot about the mystery building that looks like a fort.



I believe there is a tall flagpole on top.

I think that might be the Pacific Coast Club, which was built about 2 years before its still-extant neighbor Villa Riviera which would place the photos about 1927...are any of the cars parked at the hot dog stand later than that? Maybe the car experts can weigh in...I think the "flagpole" might be an artifact.

KCET has an article https://www.kcet.org/history-society...-of-long-beach

It does look fort like:


KCET


and more at https://www.flickr.com/photos/ocean_...7626899926476/

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I don't remember this IHOP on Sunset Boulevard. The only IHOP I remember is the one at Santa Monica Blvd. and Holloway Drive. THIS ONE

Have you heard this month that IHOP changed their name?



IHOP, which recently changed its iconic name to IHOb, has revealed what the new consonant stands for: "burgers." The name change accompanies a line of new burgers at the chain.

IHOP seems to be hedging its bets by saying the IHOb name is "for the time being," suggesting the effort may be more of a marketing ploy rather than a true rebranding campaign. Stay tuned.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ihops-n...d-for-6-11-18/

[CaliNative]

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido

CaliNative you seem very interested in the Hall of Records. Just leaf through the first pages of Noirish Los Angeles.

Will check the pages out.

[CaliNative]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Ok, now I understand. Thanks for the information sopas_ej.



One of my favorite buildings, the Hall of Records. The photo is from 1950s.


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1326337369662






The Hall of Records west from City Hall, with remnants of Bunker Hill (or is it Court Hill/Ft. Moore hill?) in the background 1956.
Anyone know what the solitary building on the left is?





http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1326337900157

Hall of Records, with Rainier Pale Beer sign....very cool.

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Nice pics Ethereal! Must of been where detective Giddes in "Chinatown" tore out the page of a S.F. Valley land record with a ruler and coughed to hide the tearing noise. Great neo-noire film.

[CaliNative]

Originally Posted by sopas ej

The old Hall of Records was indeed a nice building. Too bad it had to be demolished.

Here it is in its last days, with the Criminal Courts Bldg. being constructed right up against it in 1970:


1973:


Being demolished later in 1973:


Of course the building is at an odd angle on the block because it followed the old street pattern before they were widened and realigned:
1924


All pics from lapl.org

More classic Hall of Records pics. Lots of gems in the original pages from years ago that deserve a relook. Love those old diagonal streets. Right angle grids with no diagonals and meandering streets may be logical but boring. Salt Lake City strict street grid and numbered names may be logical but sooooo boring in my opinion. At least L.A. still has Spring & Broadway meeting in a diagonal--perfect location for an L.A. "Flatiron" building. And of course many streets outside of downtown meander because of the topography. Sunset Blvd. is a prime example.

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's another 1963 slide.

35mm Slide Knotts Berry Farm 1963 Street Scene Sign


EBAY

This must be Grand Avenue (in Buena Park, of course), but Knotts has grown so much over the years it's rather difficult to be 100% sure.
The statue appears to be on a corner (the cross street is visible behind the miner & his mule), so perhaps this isn't near the actual entrance to the park.

I just noticed the Highway 39 sign.

It's La Palma and Beach, e_r, just before Beach splits into Beach and Grand. We're at the northeast corner of Knott's.

OH NO is the familiar old miner and mule statue gone now?


gsv

Yep--gone!

That's a Home Savings across the street. There's another Home Savings building across La Palma from that. I forget which one was the earlier one.

[acorn8332]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

To be honest, I thought it (the dome) had burnt down by 1960. (and I thought there was only one diving bell) MY MEMORY SUCKS.




close-up - Sorry about the lint storm.


DETAIL

The dome is rather beautiful.

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The original Dome Theatre was destroyed by fire on 01-06-1924. It was rebuilt in 1925, eventually becoming the show building for Pacific Ocean Park's "Magic Carpet Ride" in 1958.

The building was demolished in the summer of 1969, along with the two adjoining structures a couple of years after P.O.P. closed. It was an abortive attempt to begin a redevelopment scheme by John (Jack) Morehart. The great fires that swept through the P.O.P. ruins from time to time did not begin until 1970.

Source: Christopher Merritt & Dominic Priore's "Pacific Ocean Park: The Rise and Fall of Los Angeles' Space-Age Nautical Pleasure Pier" (Port Townsend, WA: Process Media--2014). Pages 15-16 & 233-234

[GaylordWilshire]

Never knew Knott's Berry Farm was once Knott's Berry Place...from the 1941 CD