noirish Los Angeles - Page 2506

Handsome Stranger · #**50101** Posted **Dec 30, 2018, 3:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

The tokens only appear to be embossed/raised because the image has been flipped (check out the shadows). Here they are the right way up, showing a cutout logo.

Indeed! And the color photo makes it plain that the symbol is the R from the Ralphs logo. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Also, I'm generally a fan of Julius Shulman but the office tower at Space Park is not a favorite of mine. I'm easily irked by multi story buildings so near to single story residential neighborhoods. It sticks out like a sore thumb, in my cranky opinion.

But it does photograph well, as seen here in the Star Trek episode "Operation: Annihilate!"

HossC · #**50102** Posted **Dec 30, 2018, 3:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Any idea what the theater (rink?) is in the distance

This one

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Originally Posted by unihikid

Im Pretty sure thats the Fox which is still with us.

Here's the old Fox Theatre on N Market Street in Inglewood (the actual address seems to vary from 109 to 115). You can read more and see some pictures at cinematreasures.org.

Google Maps

This is how the Fox looked about six years after it opened.

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson

Los Angeles Railway, 5 Line, Car 1265, southbound on Market St, 1955/05/07

USC digital archive

CityBoyDoug · #**50103** Posted **Dec 30, 2018, 4:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Could the raised doodads on the tokens provide the color? See the reference in this wartime LAT ad of February 28, 1944...

Grapefruit in 1944 was very sour and tart tasting. The canned grapefruit juiced I drank in the late 1940s was intolerable. My brother and I lived on a rabbit ranch in the San Fernando valley at that time.
Our babysitter always had that canned grapefruit juice every morning.....along with Malt-O-Meal.

Grapefruit in 2018 are natural hybrids and considerably sweeter.

.....

parkle

The famous "grapefruit scene" with Cagney shoving the fruit in Mae Clark's face wasn't that big a deal back then and the scene happens so fast you almost miss it.

Filmed at Warner Bros in Burbank 1931

Tourmaline · #**50104** Posted **Dec 30, 2018, 7:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

The tokens only appear to be embossed/raised because the image has been flipped (check out the shadows). Here they are the right way up, showing a cutout logo.

I think Tourmaline was right about it being "R" for Ralphs. I also found this color image.

Appreciate the feedback (including the WWII suggestion of lacing grapefruit with NaCl2).

The "gray" 5 cent refund token was silver in color and made of soft aluminum. I would think that material was probably in short supply during WW2, but maybe not.

(Anecdotal evidence may be that the Ralphs' token is pre WW2 per the Helms token below.) I recall refunds being offered for recycling milk and soda bottles, but unless coinage was in short supply too, that would seem to make the tokens mere novelties. The tokens could also be used as collateral for return of reusable crates, per bottom token. These "trade tokens" probably served not only as advertising, but also an inducement to shop at the issuing store, not unlike discount coupons or being part of a club membership.

This aluminum "Helms" trade token is said to be from the '30s

http://numismaclub.com/imgs/a/g/b/j/...27mm_1_lgw.jpg

http://numismaclub.com/imgs/a/i/p/v/...oken_1_lgw.jpg

http://numismaclub.com/imgs/a/g/a/m/..._gft_1_lgw.jpg

March 1937, Celebrating "Transportation Week."

http://numismaclub.com/imgs/a/h/v/q/...eek__1_lgw.jpg

Verso

http://numismaclub.com/imgs/a/h/v/q/...eek__2_lgw.jpg

"Return our crate"

From the 1900s per source.

http://numismaclub.com/imgs/a/i/e/k/...oken_2_lgw.jpg

Tourmaline · #**50105** Posted **Dec 30, 2018, 7:59 PM**

Curious why the check made payable to "self" had an attached revenue stamp.

Note "Gold" on the left side of 1878 check.

http://numismaclub.com/imgs/a/e/a/d/...tamp_1_lgw.jpg

Pleasing you - pleases us!

Sambos , Carson and Vermont

https://images.bonanzastatic.com/afu...93/40/__57.jpg

HossC · #**50106** Posted **Dec 30, 2018, 9:28 PM**

I came across this drawing the other day.

Los Angeles County Central Heating and Refrigeration Plant, 1956

Photograph of a drawing. "Ground breaking Monday for Civic Center Plant -- The above artist sketch of the new Los Angeles County Central Heating and Refrigeration Plant will soon become a reality. With the awarding of a $3,502,500 contract to Haas-Haynei-Frandsen, Incorporated, general contractors of Beverly Hills, construction will begin officially Monday, July 16th. According to construction firm president T. Fred Frandsen, completion date has been set for February, 1958. -- Site of the plant will be on Temple, between North Broadway and Hill Streets. -- The plant, the first of its kind in the nation will be completely automatic and will supply the heating and air conditioning for all the county-owned buildings, both present and future, in the new Civic Center.

USC Digital Library

I don't remember ever noticing this building before, so I thought that maybe it was never built. However, when I jumped into the Googlemobile, there it was right opposite the Hall of Justice. It looks like it's been modified over the years, but some of the original design elements are still visible. I've inset a slightly larger image of the lettering on the front.

GSV

Martin Pal · #**50107** Posted **Dec 30, 2018, 10:20 PM**

I had to look up what goes on there. Most descriptions I saw were from when it opened:

"First in nation--Los Angeles County Central Heating and Refrigeration Plant at the Civic Center opened on Thursday, August 21, 1958. The first of its kind in the nation, this complex octopus-like system will carry heat and refrigeration to various county buildings."

ethereal_reality · #**50108** Posted **Dec 30, 2018, 11:49 PM**

Here's an amazing photograph.

"Snapshot Photo 1929 Motorcycle Image of Laura on So. Figuroa Los Angeles Calif."

Ebay

"This image came from an album put together by Harold Gates, a motorcycle racer."

I know the Automobile Club of Southern California was located on South Flgueroa. I wonder if the American Automobile Owners Association was located nearby?

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I wasn't able to find any information on Harold Gates.

EDIT. I just found a group of photographs of Harold Gates. I'll post them in just a few minutes.

Bristolian · #**50109** Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 12:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA

Heh, Basic Military Training(the kid was in the Air Force, so I had to learn all the abbreviations).

My son is currently serving in the Air Force so I can relate to the abbreviations. I often have to tell him to slow down and explain them to a civilian like me.

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Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA

It's called Los Angeles Air Force Base, it's one of the few Air Force Bases without a runway(Lackland in San Antonio is another, but it's a BMT base).

Having been there for graduations I was doubtful when I read this about Lackland but I checked with my source (son) and he confirmed it. There are plenty of runways nearby but technically on other bases of the complex.

HossC · #**50110** Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 12:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

"Snapshot Photo 1929 Motorcycle Image of Laura on So. Figuroa Los Angeles Calif."

Ebay

"This image came from an album put together by Harold Gates, a motorcycle racer."

I know the Automobile Club of Southern California was located on South Flgueroa. Was the American Autobile Owners Association located nearby?

The 1929 CD lists the American Automobile Owners Association Inc a few blocks north at 1958 S Figueroa Street. It now seems to be the parking lot for Enterprise Rent-A-Car.

ETA. I've just found this great picture of the building. There's another angle in the set.

USC Digital Library

And here's a close-up of where Laura was posing.

ethereal_reality · #**50111** Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 12:19 AM**

THANKS HOSS! You're fast!

Snapshot Photo 1929 Motorcycle Images Racer Harold Gates California +1918 Photo

"Harold and his military Harley."

This is the 1918 photo.

I believe the woman in this photograph might be Laura, the woman in the previous post.

...the seller describes the woman as Harold's girlfriend. [location unknown]

The woman in this photo appears to be somewhat older. (Laura's mom?) and little sister?

All from Ebay

ethereal_reality · #**50112** Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 12:21 AM**

Harold Gates, mystery location. (with Laura?)

Ebay

Does anyone recognize this place?

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HossC · #**50113** Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 1:14 AM**

I took a closer look at the other view of the American Automobile Owners Association building, and wondered about the building on the right. Zooming in showed a small sign saying "Elgin Arms". The 1930 CD (the same year as the photo) lists it at 525 W 20th Street.

USC Digital Library

I can't find demo permits for either building, but the Elgin Arms seems to disappear between the 1952 and 1964 images at Historic Aerials, and the AAOA building between 1972 and 1980.

BTW. The structure at the far right that looks like the top of a castle is the extant Mode O' Day/Washington Furniture Co Building at 155 W Washington Boulevard.

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

The rather unusual Mode O' Day Building at Washington & Hill.

usc digital archive

ethereal_reality · #**50114** Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 1:48 AM**

Thanks unihikid and HossC for idenitying the Fox Inglewood Theater.

Here's a recent street view.

GSV

Note: The large marquee is still in place (under all that blue plywood)
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Here's a 2nd view - from a slightly different perspective - of the old parochial school (the Fox Inglewood is in the background on the left).

PDF

You can compare it to the photograph I posted earlier HERE

In that earlier view did you notice the cozy hamburger stand in the lower left corner? [see below]

DETAIL
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IT HAS THREE OUTSIDE STOOLS (there's a big RUMP on the 3rd one)

And there's still a hamburger stand at that location.

GSV

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Lwize · #**50115** Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 7:05 PM**

Not Los Angeles, but...

There is a newly digitized photo archive of New York City taken in the 1930's-1940's of every building on every block for property tax purposes.

The archive has 720,000 photos to peruse.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ax-photos.html

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/records/index.page

SHERIFFPAUL · #**50116** Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 8:14 PM**

Happy New Year from Los Angeles 2019....Sheriff Paul

Picture courtesy of the Native LA Tourist...

Flyingwedge · #**50117** Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 10:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

The famous "grapefruit scene" with Cagney shoving the fruit in Mae Clark's face wasn't that big a deal back then and the scene happens so fast you almost miss it.

Filmed at Warner Bros in Burbank 1931

These 10 clippings suggest the grapefruit scene was very much a big deal back then (e.g., "James Cagney made an overnight triumph"
in #2, "immortal episode involving grapefruit" near the end of #5, "The grapefruit joke still goes on at Warner Brothers" in #6, and
"famous breakfast scene" in #10).

Edwin Schallert misidentifies the fruit in his review of The Public Enemy in the May 18, 1931, Los Angeles Times:

All the images in this post are from Los Angeles Times articles at ProQuest via LAPL

"Cavaliers of Cinema Passe" by Margaret Reid, August 30, 1931:

"Cagney Becoming Favorite with New Technique" by Edwin Schallert, January 14, 1932:

"Sock in Jaw Supplants Fade-Out Kiss" by Edwin Schallert, January 17, 1932:

"News and Gossip of Stage and Screen" by Norbert Lusk, May 28, 1933:

Edwin Schallert, September 12, 1933:

Unknown author, December 10, 1933:

Unknown author, February 16, 1935:

"James Cagney Scores Producer’s Methods" by Sheilah Graham, September 18, 1936:

"Mae Clark, Cagney Lead, Signs Contract for Five Pictures" by Edwin Schallert, October 22, 1936:

JeffDiego · #**50118** Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 10:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by CaliNative

The 2nd one from top is lovely Louise Brooks of course. Is the star below her Gloria Swanson? "Sunset Blvd" from 1950 one of my fave LA noirs, along with Double Indemnity, both directed by Wilder. The star on top is a young Joan Crawford I believe, and the lower pic is Myrna Loy.

Thanks for re-posting these fun pics, CaliNative. (Your post is on page 2505)

The gal between Brooks and Loy doesn't look like Swanson to me. Could be Fay Wray. (?)

http://uniformautumn.tumblr.com/post...fay-wray-1920s

CityBoyDoug · #**50119** Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 11:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

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Can't let this go by without a gif.......

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odinthor · #**50120** Posted **Jan 1, 2019, 2:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

Can't let this go by without a gif.......

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What few people realize is that this movie is a carefully coded saga which, in truth, represents the gripping drama of modern Dermatology. In this scene, Cagney's character was actually engaging in thoughtful medical treatment for Mae Clarke's character: Grapefruit juice is good for the skin:

"“Internally, grapefruit is a great example of a fruit that is loaded with skin-protective antioxidants and also has a high water content, which helps keep your skin’s barrier (the outer layer) hydrated and more resistant to wrinkle-causing free-radical damage from the sun and daily pollution,” says Los Angeles dermatologist, Howard Murad, MD. “A great benefit of grapefruit is that it promotes the production of collagen, thus making the skin more plump and reducing the appearance of fine lines and wrinkles, keeping the skin looking younger and more supple.”

“Grapefruit has excellent astringent and exfoliating properties that are perfect for oily or acne-prone skin,” says Washington, DC, dermatologist Elizabeth Tanzi, MD. “It also increases the pH of the skin, which may reduce acne,” adds Dr. Murad.

https://www.newbeauty.com/blog/daily...om-grapefruit/

Cinematic Dermatology has never been given the credit which it is due!