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2013 US Combined Statistical Area Gross Product: Released Sep. 16, 2014

2013 Combined Statistical Area(CSA) Gross Product
New York-Newark $1.683 Trillion
Los Angeles-Long Beach $999.661 Billion
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland $664.687 Billion
Washington-Baltimore-Arlington $657.039 Billion
Chicago-Naperville $597.805 Billion
Houston-The Woodlands $517.367 Billion
Boston-Worcester-Providence $514.586 Billion
Dallas-Ft Worth $451.436 Billion
Philadelphia-Reading-Camden $429.838 Billion
Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs $314.759 Billion
Seattle-Tacoma $309.577 Billion
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Port St Lucie $297.071 Billion
Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor $262.166 Billion
Minneapolis-St Paul $236.389 Billion
Denver-Aurora $209.648 Billion

2013 Metropolitan Area(MSA) Gross Product, $200 Billion+
New York $1.471 Trillion
Los Angeles $826.826 Billion
Chicago $590.248 Billion
Houston $517.367 Billion
Washington DC $463.925 Billion
Dallas $447.524 Billion
San Francisco $388.272 Billion
Philadelphia $383.401 Billion
Boston $370.769 Billion
Seattle $307.769 Billion
Atlanta $307.233 Billion
Miami $281.076 Billion
Minneapolis $227.793 Billion
Detroit $224.726 Billion
Phoenix $209.523 Billion

*Current Dollar GDP using data beginning on page 5 of the pdf
*Micropolitan Area GDPs are not published.

All Metro Areas here:
BEA: News Release: GDP by Metropolitan Area, Advance 2012, and Revised 2001–2011

CSA definitions, 2013:
List of Combined Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Seattle whoo hooo! Beating about four bigger MSAs in Atlanta, Detroit, Miami, and Phoenix. (Based on vague recollection of MSAs)
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Seattle, San Jose and other tech-heavy metros are doing very well now.

Also, the much-touted manufacturing rebound in the Midwest seems to have abated somewhat.
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100 Largest U.S. Metro Economies in 2013
millions of U.S. dollars of Real GDP (2009 chained dollars)
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Metropolitan Statistical Area....2013 Real GDP....2013 Per Capita Real GDP

1. New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA...$1,377,989...$69,704
2. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA...$775,967...$59,092
3. Chicago-Naperville-Elgin, IL-IN-WI...$550,793...$57,752
4. Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX...$456,177...$72,258
5. Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV...$437,085...$73,461
6. Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX...$413,627...$60,730
7. Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD...$358,091...$59,339
8. San Francisco-Oakland-Hayward, CA...$356,081...$78,844
9. Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH...$349,652...$74,643
10. Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Roswell, GA...$288,175...$52,178
11. Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA...$269,679...$74,701
12. Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach, FL...$263,115...$45,145
13. Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI...$213,466...$61,711
14. Detroit-Warren-Dearborn, MI...$213,258...$49,653
15. Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ...$197,079...$44,803
16. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA...$192,184...$100,115
17. San Diego-Carlsbad, CA...$186,108...$57,955
18. Denver-Aurora-Lakewood, CO...$166,150...$61,595
19. Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA...$159,266...$68,811
20. Baltimore-Columbia-Towson, MD...$158,746...$57,294
21. St. Louis, MO-IL...$136,519...$48,738
22. Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia, NC-SC...$130,318...$55,802
23. Pittsburgh, PA...$122,891...$52,053
24. Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA...$118,693...$27,093
25. Indianapolis-Carmel-Anderson, IN...$117,312...$60,038
26. Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL...$115,263...$40,153
27. Cleveland-Elyria, OH...$114,448...$55,430
28. Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN...$111,279...$52,063
29. Kansas City, MO-KS...$110,278...$53,677
30. Columbus, OH...$107,191...$54,493
31. Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL...$103,992...$45,855
32. Sacramento--Roseville--Arden-Arcade, CA...$101,402...$45,764
33. Austin-Round Rock, TX...$98,126...$52,110
34. Nashville-Davidson--Murfreesboro--Franklin, TN...$95,124...$54,112
35. San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX...$89,463...$39,280
36. Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis, WI...$89,052...$56,733
37. Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT...$87,791...$93,404
38. Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise, NV...$87,359...$43,079
39. Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC...$83,162...$48,708
40. Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT...$81,261...$66,870
41. Salt Lake City, UT...$70,719...$62,008
42. New Orleans-Metairie, LA...$70,665...$56,943
43. Providence-Warwick, RI-MA...$68,975...$42,994
44. Oklahoma City, OK...$65,246...$49,441
45. Richmond, VA...$64,155...$51,499
46. Memphis, TN-MS-AR...$63,081...$47,014
47. Raleigh, NC...$62,758...$51,673
48. Louisville/Jefferson County, KY-IN...$60,649...$48,048
49. Jacksonville, FL...$58,229...$41,753
50. Birmingham-Hoover, AL...$55,913...$49,034
51. Urban Honolulu, HI...$54,011...$54,921
52. Omaha-Council Bluffs, NE-IA...$51,122...$57,110
53. Tulsa, OK...$49,616...$51,599
54. Rochester, NY...$48,966...$45,202
55. Buffalo-Cheektowaga-Niagara Falls, NY...$48,257...$42,550
56. Baton Rouge, LA...$45,769...$55,805
57. Grand Rapids-Wyoming, MI...$45,221...$44,483
58. Albany-Schenectady-Troy, NY...$43,562...$49,620
59. Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA...$41,737...$49,709
60. New Haven-Milford, CT...$41,461...$48,083
61. Madison, WI...$40,186...$64,049
62. Des Moines-West Des Moines, IA...$39,714...$66,213
63. Albuquerque, NM...$39,618...$43,884
64. Durham-Chapel Hill, NC...$39,530...$73,946
65. Little Rock-North Little Rock-Conway, AR...$38,625...$53,321
66. Greensboro-High Point, NC...$35,530...$47,945
67. Dayton, OH...$35,216...$43,884
68. Worcester, MA-CT...$35,022...$37,792
69. Knoxville, TN...$34,346...$40,278
70. Bakersfield, CA...$33,408...$38,661
71. Tucson, AZ...$33,355...$33,470
72. Columbia, SC...$33,199...$41,824
73. Fresno, CA...$33,165...$34,718
74. Greenville-Anderson-Mauldin, SC...$32,841...$38,593
75. Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton, PA-NJ...$32,416...$39,195
76. Charleston-North Charleston, SC...$30,667...$43,058
77. Harrisburg-Carlisle, PA...$29,957...$53,714
78. Akron, OH...$29,662...$42,033
79. Wichita, KS...$29,174...$45,771
80. Syracuse, NY...$28,370...$42,859
81. Toledo, OH...$28,252...$46,456
82. Trenton, NJ...$27,558...$74,398
83. Anchorage, AK...$27,487...$69,387
84. Boise City, ID...$26,869...$41,319
85. Colorado Springs, CO...$26,710...$39,377
86. Jackson, MS...$26,225...$45,499
87. Portland-South Portland, ME...$25,897...$49,812
88. El Paso, TX...$25,543...$30,736
89. Lafayette, LA...$25,386...$52,985
90. Winston-Salem, NC...$25,382...$39,000
91. Lexington-Fayette, KY...$24,851...$50,775
92. North Port-Sarasota-Bradenton, FL...$24,358...$33,252
93. Springfield, MA...$22,895...$36,520
94. Fayetteville-Springdale-Rogers, AR-MO...$22,593...$45,924
95. Manchester-Nashua, NH...$22,456...$55,586
96. Ogden-Clearfield, UT...$22,276...$35,838
97. Santa Maria-Santa Barbara, CA...$21,812...$50,062
98. Huntsville, AL...$21,645...$49,675
99. Lancaster, PA...$21,587...$40,761
100. Chattanooga, TN-GA...$20,945...$38,662
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Ouch... Tampa is such a ghetto city when you break down GDP per capita. Ranked 179th.

The only significant metros ranked even lower are San Antonio and Riverside CA.
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16. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA...$192,184...$100,115

Wow, way higher than any other area.

Also, wow @ the size of the NY and LA economies. Just a whole 'nother level. Houston CSA average income was higher than I was expecting. Does that largely include wealthier areas though?

Thanks for posting DimondPark and Slidell. Very interesting.

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Ouch... Tampa is such a ghetto city when you break down GDP per capita. Ranked 179th.

The only significant metros ranked even lower are San Antonio and Riverside CA.
You know you're not doing too well if you're beat by Jackson, MS and Little Rock, AR.
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Ouch... Tampa is such a ghetto city when you break down GDP per capita. Ranked 179th.

The only significant metros ranked even lower are San Antonio and Riverside CA.
Boatloads of retirees will always hold down per capita stats. They add to the population but don't produce much else. See Phoenix for the same issue.
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Boatloads of retirees will always hold down per capita stats. They add to the population but don't produce much else. See Phoenix for the same issue.
Exactly Dave. Also metro areas with larger family sizes (I.e., more children), will have a lower averages as well.
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16. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA...$192,184...$100,115

Wow, way higher than any other area.
It's an amazingly successful area, but also a high-income wing of a larger metro. Most metros have a high-income quarter that would have high numbers if split off separately. Attach it to the East Bay and the numbers would still be high but not stratospheric.
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Durham/Chapel Hill caught my eye. Thanks to the RTP!

64. Durham-Chapel Hill, NC...$39,530...$73,946
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16. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA...$192,184...$100,115

Wow, way higher than any other area.
That is because the census separates the Bay Area into several "metropolitan areas", when it is really one. By census standards, the SAN FRANCISO 49ers play in a different metropolitan area! Seriously, I don't get it.
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That is because the census separates the Bay Area into several "metropolitan areas", when it is really one. By census standards, the SAN FRANCISO 49ers play in a different metropolitan area! Seriously, I don't get it.
Regarding the 49ers, I wonder if they'll change their name in a few years. Their new stadium is 40 miles south of San Francisco.

Ie: "California 49ers".
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I thought they said if they win a championship they will still parade down Market St? I think the name stays. It is kind of absurd, especially since didn't Santa Clara subsidize the stadium a bunch?

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It's an amazingly successful area, but also a high-income wing of a larger metro. Most metros have a high-income quarter that would have high numbers if split off separately. Attach it to the East Bay and the numbers would still be high but not stratospheric.
Yes, of course. I realized that. Still remarkable

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Regarding the 49ers, I wonder if they'll change their name in a few years. Their new stadium is 40 miles south of San Francisco.

Ie: "California 49ers".
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It is kind of absurd, especially since didn't Santa Clara subsidize the stadium a bunch?
Since when did a sports team playing in a suburb mean that the sports team has to change the name? Tons of cities have their teams playing in a suburb, and keep the city's name, but that shouldn't apply to SF for some reason? I guess the only difference is that going by flawed census methodology that doesn't apply well to polycentric metro areas (such as the bay area), Sunnyvale isn't a suburb of SF, because it's supposedly in a different metro area. But in reality it obviously is the same metro, and is an SF suburb (and an SJ suburb as well of course)...the very fact that the 49ers are keeping the San Francisco name proves it, because if these areas were actually separate, residents in Sunnyvale/the south bay would be flipping their shit about their team being called the "San Francisco" 49ers. But they're not as far as I can tell, aside from a few grumpy city-booster type people on the internet.
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16. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA...$192,184...$100,115

Wow, way higher than any other area.

Also, wow @ the size of the NY and LA economies. Just a whole 'nother level. Houston CSA average income was higher than I was expecting. Does that largely include wealthier areas though?

Thanks for posting DimondPark and Slidell. Very interesting.
That's not average income.. That's GDP. GDP and income aren't the same.

And it's Midland, TX MSA that has by far the highest GDP per capita in the United States.. Not sure why it's not listed above. From the source:

Midland, TX MSA $147,894

It also had one of the largest (top 5) change in GDP this year, and last, and the year before.

http://bea.gov/newsreleases/regional..._metro0914.pdf

But clearly Midland isn't the richest place when it comes to personal wealth. Same as Houston. Not a particularly wealthy but the booming industries (oil) pushes these GDP figures up.
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Well to clarify, it can't be the California 49ers or anything but San Francisco 49ers because 1849 doesn't mean jack shit for anybody BUT San Francisco. They'd have to change all aspects of their name.

Also, SJ is a 3rd wheel city to the Bay Area, not necessarily a "suburb". It shares a similar relationship to the overall area as Oakland, or as Fort Worth does to Dallas or Saint Paul to Minneapolis or Durham does to Raleigh or Oxnard or IE do to LA. It's a bit different in this regard than Baltimore's relationship to DC or Providence's relationship to Boston.

So on that note, SJ may be absurdly high for a "large" metro at 6 figures now, and no, it doesn't include the East Bay, which would lower it, however, SF's GDP includes the East Bay and it's still #3 for "large" metros >500,000 people at $78K per capita (higher than DC or Boston, 3rd behind Bridgeport-Stamford and its neighbor to the S). The E Bay has vast swaths of poverty, however, people fail to realize that it also has vast pockets of wealth and a large economy that is incredibly diverse (between the Castro Valley cities where Chevron is HQ's to the refineries up around Richmond/Martinez to Walnut Creek to Oakland itself and to Emeryville, where there are lots of companies producing many cool/innovative tech-related things, including Pixar of all "brands"). So I don't think the E Bay itself is as much a "penalty" as people are assuming.

The Bay Area is an absolute beast. The difference between it and the next guy up (Greater LA) is actually substantially less both in $ Amt and clearly by % than from Greater LA to Greater NYC.
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Since when did a sports team playing in a suburb mean that the sports team has to change the name? Tons of cities have their teams playing in a suburb, and keep the city's name, but that shouldn't apply to SF for some reason? I guess the only difference is that going by flawed census methodology that doesn't apply well to polycentric metro areas (such as the bay area), Sunnyvale isn't a suburb of SF, because it's supposedly in a different metro area. But in reality it obviously is the same metro, and is an SF suburb (and an SJ suburb as well of course)...the very fact that the 49ers are keeping the San Francisco name proves it, because if these areas were actually separate, residents in Sunnyvale/the south bay would be flipping their shit about their team being called the "San Francisco" 49ers. But they're not as far as I can tell, aside from a few grumpy city-booster type people on the internet.
Not meant to be a slight to SF. It's not unheard of for teams to change names. LA Angles became Anaheim Angels and now the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

Or how about Golden State Warriors? They're not the Oakland Warriors.

Phoenix Cardinals became the Arizona Cardinals (they never played football in Phx city limits).

New England Patriots is an odd example. It's not a city or state, it's an entire region. Pretty unique.
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Those are marketing distinctions designed to appeal the local people, and I think Anaheim involved a lease deal.

National/international audiences might align better with core city names. If you're San Francisco, with its huge profile, milk it.

Don't do the "Tampa Bay" route. I was pretty old before I knew that the city was called just "Tampa."
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