Brookfield Place Calgary | 247M - 56F | Construction

[Calgarian]

Ouch! lol

[Bigtime]

A grade 4 student could write most of Corbella's articles.

See how easy that is?

[Ramsayfarian]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

A grade 4 student could write most of Corbella's articles.

See how easy that is?

I'm at a loss to explain how she remains employed. Same for Crustie Blacthford.

[tsumetai]

While I don't agree with her assessment, I'm glad that she cares about architecture. Complaining at least signifies some level of interest.

The glazing and the crown are not clear in the render and that could make a big difference.

[MichaelS]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

It has nothing to do with the building code, more to do with the new Bylaw and parking requirements. There is already a replacement for this site that seems fairly likely to go ahead, so it's kind of a moot point.

Thanks for clarifying. I knew there was a reason due to a rule change, just couldn't remember which set of rules.

[The Fisher Account]

Brookfield really should have provided better, in-close renders of the building to some of the media outlets if they wanted to convey how nice this 'crown' was. Hard to tell in those small, distant renders.

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by tsumetai

While I don't agree with her assessment, I'm glad that she cares about architecture. Complaining at least signifies some level of interest.

The glazing and the crown are not clear in the render and that could make a big difference.

The crown could be the saving grace of this project, especially at night, that's the part I'm most interested in seeing.

[artvandelay]

Originally Posted by DizzyEdge

http://blogs.calgaryherald.com/2012/...-could-design/

New downtown office tower something a three-year-old with Lego could design

I have a mental picture of this woman living in that stucco gargoyle house in Pump Hill.

[KONYS]

The article is silly and over the top, but I do agree with the underlying point. Basic rectangles shouldn't cut it anymore. Maybe the crown and the rounded edges will save it, but for the tallest building in Canada outside of TO on a location in the heart of downtown, I would expect something a little more daring. I would kill for something like the Bank of America Tower in NYC at that location.

[Radley77]

I am disappointed in the design. I'd give it a 1 out of 10 because it looks like "Very Big Corporation of America skyscraper." Calgary already is recognized as a global business hub; it needs more skyscrapers that evoke a sense of place, not corporation. I'd like to see more architectural design centred on the natural context of the Rocky mountains or taking a cue from First Nations design. World class cities should be setting not conforming to trends IMO.

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by Radley77

I am disappointed in the design. I'd give it a 1 out of 10 because it looks like "Very Big Corporation of America skyscraper." Calgary already is recognized as a global business hub; it needs more skyscrapers that evoke a sense of place, not corporation. I'd like to see more architectural design centred on the natural context of the Rocky mountains or taking a cue from First Nations design. World class cities should be setting not conforming to trends IMO.

I think giving it a 1/10 is a little too extreme, but thinking about your comments, I would agree that while skyscrapers should have balance, they need not be symmetrical. Perhaps there are ways to break that total symmetry along the vertical axis better (they've tried to do that along the horizontal axis, and should get 'some' credit for that).

[elconsulto]

Originally Posted by suburbia

I think giving it a 1/10 is a little too extreme, but thinking about your comments, I would agree that while skyscrapers should have balance, they need not be symmetrical. Perhaps there are ways to break that total symmetry along the vertical axis better (they've tried to do that along the horizontal axis, and should get 'some' credit for that).

They could add some slight slanted lines around the exterior to portray an effect similar to the "mountains" look of EAP fairly easily, or perhaps emphasize the taper towards the top.

[DarkKeyo]

Originally Posted by Bokimon

Oh ya and the LRT line might get ripped up for a few months as there are lots and lots of utility work that runs under this and feeds into that parcel. That will also be interesting and a headache for many users. Remember what happened before teh Bow got built on Center St? It was ripped up for months it seemed.

That would be a pain. 7th Ave has barely gotten over all the construction from upgrading the stations there, and I've been enjoying it being finished.

Originally Posted by RyLucky

If we see a SELRT, I think it is a good opportunity to throw some real tall towers into the area b/w 2nd St SW - 4th St SE, around 10th - 12th Ave SE. In fact, there is already a lot going on around there, but no supertalls yet. If Calgary gets a new SELRT, Convention Ctr, and HSR, regional rail, Victoria Park/East Beltline/Stampede Park will become a new hub and will definitely deserve some skyscraper love. .

Speaking of SELRT, the central transfer station is planned to be under 2 St beside the Bow Valley Parkade/second tower of Herald Square. What are the chances they will keep this in mind when they dig a hole for the parkade?

[Radley77]

Originally Posted by suburbia

I think giving it a 1/10 is a little too extreme, but thinking about your comments, I would agree that while skyscrapers should have balance, they need not be symmetrical. Perhaps there are ways to break that total symmetry along the vertical axis better (they've tried to do that along the horizontal axis, and should get 'some' credit for that).

Yeah, I am a bit worried about having too much symmetry. Skylines like Detroit for example communicate to almost a prefabricated non-creative city (lots of twins, over focus on height, lots of symmetry in the tops of the buildings):



Compare this skyline to Chicago and you see a lot more differences (fat buildings, tall buildings, colourful, range of architectural styles, spires, crowns) :




I would rather see Calgary's skyline evolve in a unique way that fits it's own local context (Chicago) than to follow the route of Detroit's skyline.

[AB Born]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

The crown could be the saving grace of this project, especially at night, that's the part I'm most interested in seeing.

Now if only we can convice TCPL to turn their roof lighting back on. I emailed the bulidings property manager a long time ago... and was told "We have turned the roof spotlights off as part of our continuing effort to reduce, re-use and recycle."

[Chadillaccc]

Could someone with some skill make a new render for this beast for the database? The current one is a complete dumpster fire. Doesn't even look like the design.

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Could someone with some skill make a new render for this beast for the database? The current one is a complete dumpster fire. Doesn't even look like the design.

Ask and ye shall receive. http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=3

[nick.flood]

delete

[Bigtime]

Not bad, but it doesn't show the corners starting to round as the tower rises. I also think the glazing colour is off, probably darker than what we will really get.

[O-tacular]

My theory is it's probably more of a place holder until more detailed renderings are made public. Gives a good idea of scale though.