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Old Posted Jul 9, 2014, 4:55 PM
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Glenn L. Martin



1952 - Martin Elementary School 939 W. Wilshire Ave., Santa Ana


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/103172/rec/1




But why? (One hopes that those who attended Martin Elementary know the answer.)

=> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_L._Martin



Avaition pioneer Martin had some interesting SoCal connections. Some of the dates are a little hazy. It is said that by 22 years of age (1908?) Martin owned a Ford and Maxwell dealership in Santa Ana. http://www.mdairmuseum.org/history-research.html In 1909 he rented a "disused" Santa Ana Methodist Church as his first SoCal manufacturing base. (Where was the Church and any photos?) On August 1, 1909 made the first powered flight in California, 8' above the Irvine Ranch in Orange County. http://www.ocregister.com/articles/m...ine-plane.html It may have been mentioned on this thread that Martin participated in the famous 1910 Dominguez Hill Aero Meet. (Or maybe it was only Glenn Curtiss that was mentioned.)

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Even before the first air meet at Dominquez, a young auto mechanic, Glenn Martin, was at work developing his first airplane at Santa Ana. In 1909 he completed a small pusher biplane of the Curtiss style with which he taught himself to fly. After perfecting his aircraft, he embarked on an ambitious exhibition schedule over the next two years, which earned him $12,000. In May 10, 1912, he set records in a Newport Beach-Catalina Island flight. Seeing a future in the manufacture of aircraft, Martin formed his company in 1912. http://generalaviationnews.com/2011/...-air-heritage/

Read somewhere that in 1912 Martin employed another SoCal-connected aviation pioneer, Donald Douglas (who has a 1921 CD listing: David-Douglas Co., Aircraft Manfs. 421 Colyton.**) In 1915 Martin's residence was listed at 431 W. Seventh Street (LA Athletic Club) and the "factory" at 943 S. Los Angeles Street. For those with an itch regarding other aviation luminaries:
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The Martin Company provided training and experience to a remarkable number of other aviation manufacturers who later struck out on their own. William Boeing, . . . Lawrence Bell, and James S. McDonnell founded companies that bear their names. Charles Day, chief designer for Standard Aircraft in World War I, and Charles Willard, co-founder of L.W.F. Engineering in 1917, were both former Martin employees as were J.H. Kindleberger and C.A. Van Dusen, who ran North American and Brewster, respectively, during World War II. http://www.mdairmuseum.org/history-research.html

1912 (Anyone decipher the name or headline from the newspaper payload?)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...er-biplane.jpg


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In 1913, pioneering aviator Glenn L. Martin took [85 lb.]Tiny up in his biplane over Griffith Park in Los Angeles, where, at a height of 2,000 feet, she released herself from a trap seat, becoming the first woman ever to parachute from an airplane. http://www.earlyaviators.com/ebroadwi.htm
http://www.hendersondispatch.com/arc...86231df62d.jpg



1913 (Martin and James H. Irvine)
http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocre...iv1dkg0r.1.jpg


1915 "A Girl of Yesterday" with Mary Pickford and Glenn L. Martin (No surviving negative)
http://images.wisconsinhistory.org/7...07000102-l.jpg


http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/mobile/images/1915.jpg



Davis-Douglas Co. 1921 headquarters
**421-427 Colyton Street, LA
http://s.lnimg.com/photo/poster_768/...51c804a636.jpg





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Old Posted Jul 9, 2014, 5:22 PM
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Here's another snapshot from one of the 1940's photo albums.

Beverly Hills, 1940s

ebay

I'm curious about the buildings in the background. -Time to gas up the google-mobile.


..as it appeared on ebay


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That's Doheny Dr. just north of Santa Monica Blvd., right at the edge of Beverly Hills. In fact the fountain is in the city limits but the buildings are not. The buildings are still there, as is the fountain.
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2014, 5:23 PM
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A pioneer of another sort was Martin Andrew Leach of Leach Motor Car Co. at 1248 S. Flower. Related Dort Motor Cars were sold at 1132 S. Grand and NE Corner of Fourth and Broadway. (Per 1917 CD). Factory at 4800 Santa Fe Ave. Probably resided in Santa Monica. Read more about him and the Leach brand here => http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/l/leach/leach.htm and here =>http://theoldmotor.com/?p=70254



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7390/9...f18038d5_b.jpg



Tom Mix and a Leach (location?)
http://theoldmotor.com/wp-content/up...ch-600x472.jpg



Gloria Swanson and Leach (Gloria is sporting some serious monkey fur. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8832 Strangely distinctive window shapes and a top that probably needs frequent vacuuming.)
http://theoldmotor.com/wp-content/up...02/LeachII.jpg



[IMG]1920 http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/l/leac...leach_ad_1.jpg[/IMG]


http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/l/leac...leach_ad_6.jpg


Miller designed Overhead cam, valve-in-head six
http://theoldmotor.com/wp-content/up.../02/LeachI.jpg






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Old Posted Jul 9, 2014, 6:30 PM
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ebay

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-no address.
The 1926 CD lists the Faith Maternity Hospital at 1739 Morton Avenue. That would put it near the lower right corner of the aerial below. The building currently on that site is Echo Park Senior Housing - a little controversy about its construction can be found in a 1992 LA Times article. I'm pretty sure the square house near the top left (arrowed) is the same house that appears below the "S" of "IMAGES" in the original picture.


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Old Posted Jul 9, 2014, 6:59 PM
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Beverly Hills, 1940s

ebay

I'm curious about the buildings in the background. -Time to gas up the google-mobile.

..as it appeared on ebay

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As ProphetM noted, the above photo is located at the park area on the northwest corner of Santa Monica Blvd. and Doheny, dividing West Hollywood and Beverly Hills.

Below is a photo of the northeast corner. The second building up Doheny is the building that appears in E_R’s photo.

This one is dated 1945.


http://hollywoodhistoricphotos.ipowe...oducts_id/2721
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You--we've--visited this corner before, MP:


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A pioneer of another sort was Martin Andrew Leach of Leach Motor Car Co. at 1248 S. Flower. Related Dort Motor Cars were sold at 1132 S. Grand and NE Corner of Fourth and Broadway. (Per 1917 CD). Factory at 4800 Santa Fe Ave. Probably resided in Santa Monica. Read more about him and the Leach brand here => http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/l/leach/leach.htm and here =>http://theoldmotor.com/?p=70254


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7390/9...f18038d5_b.jpg

Gloria Swanson and Leach
http://theoldmotor.com/wp-content/up...02/LeachII.jpg

I'm not sure if I could think up a worse name for a car than "Leach"... Mr. Leach might have sold a few more cars with a something a little sweeter-sounding. Anyway, in reading a little more about the Leach, I noticed this slightly interesting synchronicity with Gloria Swanson:

"Celebrity owners included silent cowboy Tom Mix who owned a 1921 Leach single-seat roadster and Marcella Desmond, the sister of silent move stars William and Lucille Desmond, who owned a 5-passenger 1920 Leach touring with an attractive California top."

Never heard of these Desmonds...
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Yes, GW, thanks, I was just getting around to that, lol!

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Dr. Jones Dog and Cat Hospital, 9080 Santa Monica Boulevard.



This little art deco building stands empty today.
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Speaking of the park and fountain and the above building at Santa Monica Blvd. and Doheny, this post I did (link below) shows many photos of this intersection, including a large color photo from 1965 which shows a portion of the above building as the Dr. R. (---?) Smith Pet Hospital. (You can also see it in the "Double Standard" b&w photo.)

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=21575

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This Wurdeman and Becket Cat and Dog Hospital is threatened with demolition...

https://www.laconservancy.org/issues...iangle-project
My post link also has a rendering of what might replace it.

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Old Posted Jul 9, 2014, 8:35 PM
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I have to admit, I always thought that the Derby had to vacate it's original location 3427 Wilshire between Alexandria and Mariposa, due to the construction of the women's Olympic village on the site of the future Chapman Park Hotel, and thus was the reason for the BD opening up at the Gramercy Place location 3927 Wilshire.
There was NO construction of a "women's Olympic village", the women athletes were simply housed IN the Chapman Park Hotel in 1932 according to all available sources. I don’t know if a new Chapman Park Hotel was relocated or built after that or if it was expanded (“& Villas”?) or what, but there was already one on Wilshire in 1932.

Gaylord Wilshire can you clear up the Chapman Park Hotel information? A lot of sites list the hotel as being built in 1936.
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Thanks so much for firming up that timeline for me (and before you even had your coffee!). And on the subject of Brown Derbys, someone sent me this photo of a (rather half-hearted attempt at a) Brown Derby on the NE corner of Hollywood and Vine. Apparently, it's from the 1980s which puts it outside my area of research, but I'm still surprised I'd not come across it before.
MT, refer to my posts I did about the Northwest corner of Hollywood and Vine:

Part 2 has two photos of that Brown Derby located there.

Hollywood & Vine - Part 1
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=20977

Hollywood & Vine - Part 2
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=20978

Hollywood & Vine - Part 3
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=20979
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2014, 9:15 PM
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I'm not sure if I could think up a worse name for a car than "Leach"... Mr. Leach might have sold a few more cars with a something a little sweeter-sounding. Anyway, in reading a little more about the Leach, I noticed this slightly interesting synchronicity with Gloria Swanson:

"Celebrity owners included silent cowboy Tom Mix who owned a 1921 Leach single-seat roadster and Marcella Desmond, the sister of silent move stars William and Lucille Desmond, who owned a 5-passenger 1920 Leach touring with an attractive California top."

Never heard of these Desmonds...


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The Leach cars introduced for 1923 were simply the 1922 models with $1,000 slashed off their price tags. Operations moved from 4800 S. Santa Fe Avenue to a smaller facility at 112 West 9th Street and production of the Leach was discontinued shortly thereafter. http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/l/leach/leach.htm





Maybe it was the lack of a carefully chosen cuisine that was the final spoon in Leach's mustard or was it lack of public accommodations or failure to adapt to something amphibious (see below)?


112 W Ninth Street currently houses an eatery.
http://s3-media3.fl.yelpcdn.com/bpho...24xjelGw/l.jpg



The building at 112 W. Ninth was allegedly built in 1913 and "last" renovated in 1915. Alleged current concerns include risks posed by flooding and earthquake. http://commercial-properties.findthe...geles-CA-90015



Only one public lavatory? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13085 There goes the neighborhood.

1917 Convergence of Spring, Main and Ninth
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/132...nmainsprin.jpg http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=15717




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The Chapman Park Hotel was built in 1925. In 1936, architect Carleton Monroe Winslow collaborated with landscape architects Bashford and Barlow on the Spanish-Colonial Revival/Mexican bungalows and beautifully landscaped grounds.


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There was NO construction of a "women's Olympic village", the women athletes were simply housed IN the Chapman Park Hotel in 1932 according to all available sources. I don’t know if a new Chapman Park Hotel was relocated or built after that or if it was expanded (“& Villas”?) or what, but there was already one on Wilshire in 1932.

Gaylord Wilshire can you clear up the Chapman Park Hotel information? A lot of sites list the hotel as being built in 1936.
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2014, 10:51 PM
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The last confectionery we visited was the Black Cat in the Hotel Hayward.


Here's another, the Wisteria Sweet Shop located at 312 S. Broadway, circa 1910.


ebay

-note the Hire's Root Beer dispenser.

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Main Street at Macy - 1948
(Terminal Annex Post Office in the background)


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[QUOTE=3940dxer;6646872]I wonder who the contemplative gentleman in the photo was, and I wonder what happened to him in the years after the photo was taken.QUOTE]

Although we focus on buildings, vehicles, trolleys, buses, etc., on these pages, it's interesting to look at the people in the pictures. I too look at an old photo and wonder about the people in them when they are not identifed. Who were they, what were their names, what did their lives consist of in later years, when did they die, or for more recent pictures, are they still living? Each of these persons was a human being, and each of their stories would be interesting to listen to if only we could.
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Truly a mystery.


ebay




ebay

The connection to Los Angeles is quite interesting. I'm guessing Truly is an obsolete town.....long gone.
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postscript:
Here's 213 East 29th Street mentioned in the description, directly south of downtown Los Angeles.

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[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;6647161]Here's another snapshot from one of the 1940's photo albums.

Beverly Hills, 1940s

ebay

I'm curious about the buildings in the background. -Time to gas up the google-mobile.



Google Street View
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You just saved me some money on gas FredH.

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"[Leach] [c]elebrity owners included silent cowboy Tom Mix who owned a 1921 Leach single-seat roadster and Marcella Desmond, the sister of silent move stars William and Lucille Desmond, who owned a 5-passenger 1920 Leach touring with an attractive California top."

Never heard of these Desmonds...

William Desmond, "King of the Silent Serials." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William...nd_%28actor%29 (Wonder if any of his 205 film roles featured a Leach?)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...shed_Walls.jpg


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Unlike Encino's Lang Oak, this Moreton Bay Fig tree in Santa Barbara is thriving, with a span of just under 200 feet!

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http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5005/...961bd6c7_b.jpg

Now that is one hell of a beautiful tree ER - Wow! I think even GW would approve.
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