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[Echo Park]

Originally Posted by JDRCRASH

You should try saying that when numbers clearly show more people are coming into Southern California than the Northeastern States.

In fact, don't you guys remember on the News that 60 million people will live in California by 2050?

Right now California has about 39 million people.
Southern California boasts 25 million people.

If the current average increases across the state continue, than Southern California will have AT LEAST 40 million by 2050.

Therefore, I think we should be realistic.
There is no way New York City will continue it's claim of having the most skyscrapers much longer.

You need to stop this.

[gttx]

Originally Posted by JDRCRASH

You should try saying that when numbers clearly show more people are coming into Southern California than the Northeastern States.

In fact, don't you guys remember on the News that 60 million people will live in California by 2050?

Right now California has about 39 million people.
Southern California boasts 25 million people.

If the current average increases across the state continue, than Southern California will have AT LEAST 40 million by 2050.

Therefore, I think we should be realistic.
There is no way New York City will continue it's claim of having the most skyscrapers much longer.

OK, for the sake of argument, let's be "realistic."

According to Emporis, here are the stats. for the number of high-rise buildings in New York:

- Completed: 5573
- Under Construction: 143
- Approved: 33
- Proposed: 124
- Demolished: 214

Now here is a similar list for Los Angeles:

- Completed: 473
- Under Construction: 10
- Approved: 18
- Proposed: 36
- Demolished: 15

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that all the proposed and approved buildings are built in this cycle. Factoring out the demolished ones, New York will have 5659 high-rise buildings, and L.A. will have 522. That means that, in terms of skyscrapers, New York will be 10.84 times the size of L.A. Even if L.A. went through the biggest boom in its history, it still could not compete with New York, especially since NYC is putting up skyscrapers at an unprecedented rate.

Now I'm no statistician, but the numbers seem to speak for themselves pretty clearly.

[LosAngelesSportsFan]

thank you Gttx. JDCrash, we appreciate your enthusiasm but we have to be realistic. now lets get back on topic on this thread.

[BrandonJXN]

Originally Posted by JDRCRASH

LMAO?

Just look at our basin....it's just about filled up.
Since people will continue to come to our sunshine paradise, unless something similar to my idea about tunneling under the San Gabriel Mountains to Palmdale and Victorville is approved, we will experience a Super-Boom of high-rises that will make us the Manhatten of the West Coast.

@StatenIslander237: Ha, dude, seriously, Los Angeles WILL become bigger than New York City in the coming decades.

People that really like the Big Apple just deep down inside know it.
But they keep on continuing with their comments such as "give me a break" or "LMFAO" because they just are having a tough time dealing with.

It took about 120 years for Manhattan to be where it is in terms of skyscrapers. It took LA about 40. So until LA goes on a boom and builds 80 years worth of skyscrapers in a few years (and Paris Hilton wins the Nobel Prize), LA will NEVER rival NYC in terms of skyscrapers.

Houston is LA's cheif rival skyscraper wise.

[Quixote]

September 22, 2007

Originally Posted by LAofAnaheim

LA Central all fenced up

[BrandonJXN]

So it should be any day now.

[Quixote]

I have a feeling that LA Central will look a lot like the Atelier in NYC once completed. In case you haven't caught on to it already, LA Central is being developed by the Moinian Group, the same people behind the Atelier. It's no wonder that both pose a striking resemblance to one another. Their facades share the same look - same rectangular windows, same glass, etc.


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[colemonkee]

That would be nice. I really like the way the Atelier turned out.

[JDRCRASH]

Sigh.....
I know I 'm often a pain in the ass, but you know what, I seriously i'm tired of this trash people talk about Los Angeles!

I may not favor some cities, but I don't talk BS about them.

For example, New York City will always be the most famous city in America.

But I want L.A. to show the world what it's REAL economic ability can be.
That is why i'm tired of it not being on top.

[Quixote]

October 14, 2007

Originally Posted by LA311

And yes NOTHING happening at LA Central yet...

[Quixote]

November 3, 2007


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[colemonkee]

My guess is they are waiting on construction - or demolition - permits. The City can be painfully slow with those sometimes, er, most of the time.

[JDRCRASH]

Yeah, and unfortunatly the Housing Market is making it worse!

[LosAngelesSportsFan]

Originally Posted by colemonkee

My guess is they are waiting on construction - or demolition - permits. The City can be painfully slow with those sometimes, er, most of the time.

i agree Colemonkee. We shouldnt just jump to conclusions on every little thing. we have seen time and time again with the city, permits are a disaster. And remember a couple things:
1) the location of this project is A+
2) the building will be done in 2010, so who knows what the market will be like, more than likely better than today.

on a side note, its shocking how big that damn lot is.

[colemonkee]

^ The concern that they might not get financing due to tighter credit standards and reduced liquidity in the credit market is a valid one, but you can't make that assumption until Morley comes in and removes their fencing. Until then, it's a pretty safe assumption that the city is slowing things down.

[BrandonJXN]

Originally Posted by LosAngelesSportsFan

i agree Colemonkee. We shouldnt just jump to conclusions on every little thing. we have seen time and time again with the city, permits are a disaster. And remember a couple things:
1) the location of this project is A+
2) the building will be done in 2010, so who knows what the market will be like, more than likely better than today.

on a side note, its shocking how big that damn lot is.

You also have to factor that this is a valuable parking lot (if there is such a thing). This lot has gone roughly unused for about 2 months. Downtown LA wouldn't have this lot closed off for as long as it has if this project wasn't going to go through soon.

[Quixote]

November 24, 2007


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[SD_Phil]

So it's back to temporary parking?

[Quixote]

[JDRCRASH]

Nice rendering for whoever made them.