NEW YORK | 432 Park Avenue (Drake Hotel dev.) | (1,396) FT / 432 M | 89 FLOORS

[jsr]

Originally Posted by adrianharvey

Would've thought that the open air spaces between floors would increase the stability of the building as wind will have an easy route through rather than just blowing against the entirety of the structure (however skinny it might be).

The openings would provide some reduction in overturning moment. I think the bigger effect is to attenuate vortex action and thus reduce sway.

[NYguy]

He gets into it about 34 minutes in...


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Similar action at 111 West 57th about 45 minutes in...

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Arvind

[CCs77]

Arctic New York...

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[Surrealplaces]

New Midtown Skyline by Tony Shi Photos, on Flickr

[Surrealplaces]

View from the Top of the Rock - RCA - GE Building roof 51311 by Brechtbug, on Flickr

[mrnyc]

time to loose the scaffolding!

[ih8pickingusernames]

This is a truly hideous building. Absolutely throws off the proportions of the skyline, and it's an architectural disaster. Looks like an overly thin and tall commieblock. Instagram hates this building too, entertaining to see all the comments ripping on this building.

[Islander]

Absolutely throws off the proportions of the skyline

I'm not really seeing this. 432 is the same height as 1WTC, on the opposite end of the skyline, with the ESB in the middle. Usually, when a city gets a new tallest (to roof), it does make the skyline lopsided somehow, but if anything the proportions have become more symmetrical here. IMO.

[TorontoDrew]

This building is so bad ass. Kind of ugly but you can't help but be amazed by how tall and slender it is. I would never live in that though. It doesn't look like it would take much to bring this thing down.

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by ih8pickingusernames

This is a truly hideous building. Absolutely throws off the proportions of the skyline, and it's an architectural disaster. Looks like an overly thin and tall commieblock. Instagram hates this building too, entertaining to see all the comments ripping on this building.

Looks nothing like a commieblock, and hardly the tallest or thinnest building for the skyline, so your comments are odd.

If you think this one is too tall and thin, I can't imagine what you'll think about 111 W.57.

[JustSomeGuyWho]

Originally Posted by ih8pickingusernames

This is a truly hideous building. Absolutely throws off the proportions of the skyline, and it's an architectural disaster. Looks like an overly thin and tall commieblock. Instagram hates this building too, entertaining to see all the comments ripping on this building.

It's interesting how people have such radically different views of this building. I personally love it and I think it will be even better once it is fully revealed. Slender and elegant is how I would describe it. Others describe it as skinny and boring.

Others would agree that it throws off the balance of the skyline. Don't quite understand that either. You have the ESB in the "center" with 432 Park to the north and 1WTC to the south ... seems balanced to me. Now, I suppose if you were looking at it from the middle of central park you could say that but wait a couple of years and that will change.

This is a commieblock building ... how you equate the two is beyond me.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by ih8pickingusernames

This is a truly hideous building. Absolutely throws off the proportions of the skyline, and it's an architectural disaster.

You can talk about the design, love it or hate it, as people have. But this talk of being to tall, or out of proportion to the skyline is ridiculous.

The Empire State has stood for decades with nothing nearly tall approaching it, and it's never been too tall for New York - a city known for it's tall skyscrapers.

But beyond that, this building is the first of many new supertalls going up in and around Manhattan. Will they all then be considered too tall?



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[NYguy]

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[JayPro]

Those first two shots simply rock.
I might be in the minority here; but in a lot of silhouette-oriented shots this tower isn't done a great deal of justice.

[Roadcruiser1]

I still don't get all the hate on 432 Park Avenue. We had 2 big boxes sitting on Manhattan for 27 years. However no one had anything bad to say about them. So if you hate this building you can just stop going to this thread.

http://media.mlive.com/news/detroit_...9777-large.jpg

[ih8pickingusernames]

Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1

I still don't get all the hate on 432 Park Avenue. We had 2 big boxes sitting on Manhattan for 27 years. However no one had anything bad to say about them. So if you hate this building you can just stop going to this thread.

http://media.mlive.com/news/detroit_...9777-large.jpg

People had plenty bad things to say about the twin towers. Personally, I think they were great. However, 432 park avenue lacks their dominance, not to mention it's half as wide as the twin towers were and have a very different effect on the NYC skyline. Why does everyone get all offended when people dislike a tower There's nothing more annoying then endless praise...
Anyways, it is what it is. It's getting built either way. Just a foreigners opinion.

[BoM Trespasser]

Curves and spires (although I am not opposed to those per se) have been done to death. Just wait until 432 Park is completed, it will be very elegant, simple, extremely modern. The building won't need any "enhancements". Also diversity in architectural form is a plus, no? Some people just can't get over a flat roof. Just another "foreigner's" opinion.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by JayPro

Those first two shots simply rock.
I might be in the minority here; but in a lot of silhouette-oriented shots this tower isn't done a great deal of justice.

I think some people are probably put off because they are used to seeing the tallest towers on the skyline with a giant spire or antenna on top.

Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1

I still don't get all the hate on 432 Park Avenue......if you hate this building you can just stop going to this thread.

I don't mind the hate, people can agree to disagree. Just don't tell me it's too tall, because that drives me crazy.




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[mousquet]

Originally Posted by NYguy

I don't mind the hate, people can agree to disagree. Just don't tell me it's too tall, because that drives me crazy.

That's a mere damn right. Myself at 1st, I found the design somewhat too random and disapointing, if not backwards as a reminder of the now old international boxes. But then look at it on pictures, the final product is quite stylish. Fairly cool materials, and above all beautifully slender. No other city in the world can afford such thin and tall designs, which is, excuse me that poor trivial word, but really a fuck of a luck to it. When Paris can build such thin towers in its skyline, I'll be crying out my joy to anyone who'll hear it.

Besides, IMHO, NYC as Paris came to that weird royal point where it can afford pretty much anything, whether odd, splendid, random, ludicrous or whatever, anything is now a plus to it. That's just that unfair privilege of the universal stars with nothing left to prove.

[forj]

Does this image give us a sneak peek at one of the cylinders on the terrace/mech levels? Look at the third one down from the top.. seems the orange netting is missing on a portion of the terrace level there and you can see the cylindrical shape inside. maybe it's covered in plywood or something currently but it looks bright gold or bronze almost.. which would be incredible if that was the case. can you imagine the sun reflecting of that? the reveal of those terrace levels is really the last piece im anticipating for this tower.. that and removing all the plastic from the windows