NEW YORK | 111 Murray Street | 792 FT | 58 FLOORS

[Design-mind]

Oh great! Scaffolding is up, and now the NIMBY's know there is something going on. They should be out in full force within a matter of days.

[sparkling]

^^^
It's been up for several months already

[Pete8680]

The renders so far have me thinking it looks like a giant glass Gumby. At least its better looking now then the "air pump" render.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Design-mind

Oh great! Scaffolding is up, and now the NIMBY's know there is something going on. They should be out in full force within a matter of days.

Originally Posted by sparkling

^^^
It's been up for several months already

With towers like 30 Park and 56 Leonard going up, they won't have much to stand on anyway. And then there's the Freedom Tower.

[NYguy]

http://urbanismvsmodernism.blogspot.com/

Brandon Nagle

[NYguy]

http://www.downtownexpress.com/2015/...a-new-address/

Still not this: As demolition begins, no renderings for Murray St. building to be, but a new address




Last year there was speculation that this tower was planned for 101 Murray St., but the developer shot down the rumors.
There’s still no rendering for the Murray St. building, whose new address will be 111 Murray.



February 19, 2015
JBY DUSICA SUE MALESEVIC

Thirty Park Place, at 926 feet, and 56 Leonard, at 821 feet, still win.

At one time, the building that will sprout up at the former St. John’s University site was in the running for the tallest tower in Tribeca at a reportedly 850-950 feet, but in reality it will hit 740 feet, according to the developer.

The residential building, which will also have some retail space, has a new address: 111 Murray St., not 101, said Alex Adams, project executive for the Fisher Brothers, one of the developers along with the Witkoff Group.

At Community Board 1’s Tribeca Committee meeting on Feb. 11, Adams stressed that it was a preliminary presentation and plans have yet to finalize. There are still no final renderings of the building, he said.

Adams was asked about renderings a few times at the meeting. A rendering that was reported in some outlets early last year turned out to be false.

“As soon as the plans are ready, you’ll come and present them,” said Noah Pfefferblit, district manager. “So we get them direct from you and not in a blog.”

Adams said that he would. He explained that while there is “a very lengthy cast of folks designing it” — including architecture firm Kohn Pedersen Fox and architect and designer David Rockwell doing a lot of interior work — the plan is close to completion but not final. They are still deciding on things such as the outer shape of the building.

Plaza Construction is the construction manager and Anthony DelGreco, project executive, talked about the building’s timeline.

He said right now they’re demolishing the existing building — a ten-story, 160,000 sq. ft. structure. The developers bought the building from St. John’s for $233 million in 2013.

Demolition began a few weeks ago and should be finished this spring, sometime in April. Once completed, the work on the tower’s foundation will begin right away and take about another year to finish, he said.

Then the superstructure will be built, which will also take a year, explained DelGreco, with the tower expected to be finished in the summer of 2018.

The site will actually have two buildings, the 62-story tower and a much smaller four-story building that will have some retail as well as mechanical equipment. There will also be retail at the base of the tower for a total of 2,500 sq. ft.

DelGreco discussed the hours of construction, which will be Monday through Friday, from 7 a.m. to 6 a.m. Due to the use of cranes, there will be work sometimes on the weekend.

While the sidewalk on West St. will stay open, not so on the Murray St. side, which will close.

Consideration has been paid to the noise and vibration as acoustic blankets will be installed into the inside face of the construction fence, the owner will hire a third party to monitor both, and the foundation will be drilled with caissons, which is quieter, said DelGreco.

Adams said that a website will be up soon that will provide information on upcoming construction and that a number and an email address for concerns will be set up.

After the presentation, Marc Ameruso, a C.B. 1 member, asked if there was “anything about this project that’s not as-of-right you need a variance for?”

Adams said no. He made it clear at the start that while they were happy to answer questions and listen to suggestions, “we’re not seeking any approvals; we’re here for informational purposes.”

Several committee members wanted to know if there could be community space within the tower.

“This is a very large residential tower and it would be nice to sort of provide something for the community,” said Elizabeth Lewinsohn, co-chairperson.

“Right now, we’re not planning on anything,” said Adams. “I think we’re interested and happy to be good neighbors and work with the community.”

“There’s a public park, you said, right?” asked Lewinsohn.

While DelGreco was describing the site itself, he said that in between the two buildings “there’s going to be a public park.”

Adams backed away from that statement, saying that it is something they are considering and “that we are still working through.

“You can see, we have a substantial amount of open space between the footprint of the tower building and the retail building. So we’re trying to figure out the best way to kind of integrate that into the overall site plan … so I think we’ll know shortly what we would like to do, but we’re just not there yet.”

Footprint from a recent filing...

[Hudson11]

a 200' drop is unfortunate. I'm willing to guess its proximity to 'Freedom Tower' might have something to do with it. Though there was never need for that much height in the first place, because there is nothing which will block the tower's view of midtown, most of downtown and the Hudson. Height drop aside, it's still going to be somewhat tall.

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by Hudson11

a 200' drop is unfortunate. I'm willing to guess its proximity to 'Freedom Tower' might have something to do with it. Though there was never need for that much height in the first place, because there is nothing which will block the tower's view of midtown, most of downtown and the Hudson. Height drop aside, it's still going to be somewhat tall.

There are/will be taller buildings closer to it so I don't see why that would be a problem. I sure hope the top looks different that that rendering though

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Hudson11

a 200' drop is unfortunate. I'm willing to guess its proximity to 'Freedom Tower' might have something to do with it.

It didn't have anything to do with the Freedom Tower (if it would, that would only drive it higher).

It has everything to do with the design, which isn't finalized reportedly from the article.

the building that will sprout up at the former St. John’s University site was in the running for the tallest tower in Tribeca at a reportedly 850-950 feet, but in reality it will hit 740 feet, according to the developer.

...He explained that while there is “a very lengthy cast of folks designing it” — including architecture firm Kohn Pedersen Fox and architect and designer David Rockwell doing a lot of interior work — the plan is close to completion but not final. They are still deciding on things such as the outer shape of the building.

The shape would have an impact on the height. Still, the new building permit (I haven't seen it altered yet) list a height of 857 ft.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01

[chris08876]

101 MURRAY UPDATE:

First things first: The 62-story, 740-foot tower going up at 101 Murray—where the St. John’s University building is being demolished as we speak—is indeed being called 111 Murray. (Demolition should be done by spring.) The developers are Fisher Brothers and Witkoff, and the architect is Kohn Pedersen Fox (with David Rockwell contributing to the interiors)—but there’s no official rendering yet, so we don’t know if these are accurate. The slick rep from Fisher Brothers showed a slide (above) that indicated the footprint will be as described in DOB filings. At first he said that the non-building parts would be “public park,” but later he backed off of that, saying it hadn’t been decided whether the park would be public. And then he backed farther off, saying that they hadn’t determined whether, in a bid to get an increased floor area ratio (from 9, I think, to 12), they would include affordable housing or a public plaza. Those DOB filings, however, seems to be out of date in several ways: The rep said there would, in fact, be retail in the tower, but no parking in the building. The “pavilion” on the east side is a separate four-story building with retail on the ground floor and 111 Murray mechanicals above it (because after Sandy, new buildings on West Street won’t be putting mechanicals below grade). Good news for nearby residents: The foundation will be drilled caissons rather than driven piles. Bad news for all of us who regularly walk along Murray Street: The busy northern sidewalk will be closed to pedestrians for at least three years.

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http://tribecacitizen.com/2015/02/12...february-2015/

[chris08876]

Tribeca's 111 Murray Street Condo Tower Preps for Sales

The tower formerly known as 101 Murray Street and 101 Tribeca is making moves. A tipster spotted a teaser site for the future KPF-designed condo tower, which will now be known as 111 Murray Street. The site doesn't reveal much, but it likely means sales will launch soon. The site says the development is a "collaboration of design visionaries," including designer David Rockwell, architect David Mann, and landscape architect Edmund Hollander. In other words, these condos will be "very high end," per our tipster, but that should surprise no one. The 139 apartments will average 2,627 square feet, and include studios to five-bedrooms, plus penthouses.

The tower, located on a site that used to hold a St. John's University building, is being developed by Fisher Brothers and the Witkoff Group, and permits are currently pending with the Department of Buildings. The permits show that the building will rise 66 stories and 857 feet, which means it will likely be taller than Shvo's tower at 125 Greenwich Street (permits put that building at 841 feet, but there have been conflicting reports).

Preliminary renderings for 111 Murray showed a slender glass tower with a fluted top, but since the project is still in the very early stages, that could change.

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http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2015/0..._for_sales.php

[hunser]

Shvo's tower at 125 Greenwich Street (permits put that building at 841 feet, but there have been conflicting reports).

That old permit sure caused some confusion amongst the skyscraper scene ...

[ILNY]

950FT ... 857FT .... 740FT ... tbc

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by ILNY

950FT ... 857FT .... 740FT ... tbc

tbc?

[baseball1992]

Originally Posted by Zapatan

tbc?

to be continued.

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by baseball1992

to be continued.

Oh right... it's been a long day sorry, my brain's half broken.

[chris08876]

They need to get the permits right, and the tabloids need to research it before hand. Not just for this project, but it happens so much for others.

But 857 is still tall, it just might not look like it here. 850' is the new 400'.

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by chris08876

They need to get the permits right, and the tabloids need to research it before hand. Not just for this project, but it happens so much for others.

But 857 is still tall, it just might not look like it here. 850' is the new 400'.

I don't know about new 400', it's not what it used to be but will still be a great addition to the skyline.

857' I believe was the original permit though, so therefore I think (unfortunately) 740' is a more accurate number to go by which again, will be a nice highrise but nothing special in Manhattan.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by hunser

That old permit sure caused some confusion amongst the skyscraper scene ...

And I still don't understand how, particularly on this forum.

The “pavilion” on the east side is a separate four-story building with retail on the ground floor and 111 Murray mechanicals above it (because after Sandy, new buildings on West Street won’t be putting mechanicals below grade)

For anyone wondering why new towers keep going up so close to the river.

[NYguy]

http://tribecatrib.com/content/commu...62-story-tower

Community to Get What from A Whopping 62-Story Tower




By AMANDA WOODS
Mar. 03, 2015

Developers Fisher Brothers and Witkoff are planning a 62-story tower at Murray and West streets, slated to be one of the two tallest residential buildings in Lower Manhattan. So when their representatives came to Com­munity Board 1’s Tribeca Com­mittee last month, the question was: Is there a giveback for the community?

The answer was yes, no, and maybe.

To make way for the 740-foot tower and a separate four-story pavilion with wide space in between, the St. John’s University building is now be­ing demolished on the site, which lies between West and Greenwich.

The developers, who paid the university $223 million for the site, re­portedly are putting 139 units in the tower.

During his presentation to the committee, Anthony DelGreco, a project executive at Plaza Construction, the construction managers for the new building, said that a public park would be designed for the large open space between the tower and the pavilion.

“Are there plans to include any community facilities within the building?” committee member Alice Blank asked after the presentation.

“No, not at the moment,” responded Alex Adams, a project executive with Fisher Brothers, one of the developers for the site.

“There’s a public park, you said, right?” asked committee co-chair Elizabeth Lewinsohn.

“This is one of the things we’re still sort of working through,” he said, distancing himself from DelGreco’s earlier statement.

After more discussion, it turned out that the city is allowing the developer to put up a building that is 20 percent larger than zoning allows (an FAR or floor area ratio of 12 rather than 10) if it provides a public plaza or includes affordable housing. So maybe there will be an open plaza, or maybe not.

Adams said that they had “looked at” the idea of affordable housing but that it was “complicated.”

“We understand that [it is a] priority for the current administration and the community board, absolutely. It’s something that we’ve been weighing, but I’m not in a position to make a commitment on it right now."

“Would you consider having any sort of community facilities in the building at all?” pursued Lewinsohn, repeating the request. “I mean, any suggestions? This is a very large residential tower and it would be nice to sort of provide something for the community.”

The answer remained the same.

The executives said demolition of the St. John’s building is expected to be completed next month, with construction to start immediately after that. The tower is slated to be ready by the summer of 2018.

Adams said he was not ready to show renderings of the building.

“We have plans that are very close, but until they’re final, it’s not appropriate for us to be sharing information,” he said, “especially since some of the decisions we’re trying to make are specific to the entry of the building and sort of the outer shape of the building.”

Blank urged Adams to present the design as soon as possible.

“I would say that given the scale of this building,” she said, “it would be­hoove you all to definitely come before the community board with the plans such as they are and a real understanding of what this public space is.”