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Old Posted Mar 10, 2013, 1:22 AM
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This one is for Starchy over at Curbed LA:
Artist's conception of the Skyrail Tour, a 3,500-foot elevated project designed by Arrow Development Company, to be constructed at the Anheuser-Busch Inc. brewery in Van Nuys as part of a $3 million Bush Gardens development. Photo dated: August 19, 1963.

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Old Posted Mar 10, 2013, 3:13 AM
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Is this a public restroom? (notice the man going down the stairs)


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Interesting observation. I can't recall this thread addressing public toilets, but I suspect there was never much to discuss. (Whale defilement and trough spittoons - maybe, but not toilets.) The Department of Public Works, Bureau of Street Works, probably has jurisdiction over this area. From what I can tell via current street views, the plot of land is covered in grass and possibly ornamental sculptures. Since it is no longer a trolley embarkation/disembarkation stop, it is not pedestrian friendly or far less friendly than it may have been in '17.

Regarding the earlier image , although I do not see any obvious markings or signs (that are legible), as you noted, the two stairwells suggests public access to the underground. Glass blocks in the sidewalk also indicate an attempt to transmit available light underground. The stairwells also seem to be segregated, presumably by gender ( but this is an outright guess). Something about the location suggests that whatever it was, the Transit authority may have been responsible for it. While public toilet seems the most logical conclusion, could the stairwells have led to a pedestrian tunnel, a ticket booth or an 'underground' dispensary or chapel?

The image is from a larger, previously posted USC Digital image. The accompanying text includes a 1900 date, which is clearly wrong given the cars of the late teens.

As an aside, due to the increasing homeless situation, and, in an effort to make parts of downtown more pedestrian friendly, there has been a tepid effort to equip the area, including Pershing Square, with pissoirs or public toilets.http://articles.latimes.com/2007/may...cal/me-toilet3

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Circa '05 Spring and 9th Streets - Hard to tell if any of the subject matter is depicted in this image. I think not, but perhaps others may see something I don't.




Hard to discern if the structure exists in MR's ('30s) post of the same area.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8461/7...7804a36f_b.jpg



A higher resolution view of the previously posted 9th and Main photo. Circa 1917. (Another source erroneously dates the image as 1930.) The stairwells appear to be there, but at least in this shot, no one is using them.

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Old Posted Mar 10, 2013, 3:25 AM
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gosh darn those choppy photos.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2013, 4:42 AM
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Where 9th and Spring and Main converge - revisited


Any idea about FoX Kiddies? Is it an appendage of Fox Movies for children or a retailer for children's clothes/toys? (Looks like a theater but hard to tell.)

Circa 1917
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Eating on the balustrades (missing stool?)

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Religious symbolism?

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Old Posted Mar 10, 2013, 5:53 AM
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Turns out the Bixby and its neighbors managed to survive 'til the very end, which in this case turned out to be 1954-55.

Another shot dated 1955 (but if that's correct then it must've been super early on) showing the Bixby mostly torn down and its neighbor already turned into a mighty fine lookin' parking lot:


unsure of source...acquired from here
Thx again kznyc2k. I'd seen the shot above before (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=4769) but had not realized that the pile of debris was the remains of the Bixby house. I guess I had always harbored the hope that maybe someone had moved the house as it still appeared to be in pretty good nick at the end. No such luck.

The view above also shows the pedestrian bridge to the back of the Law Building, which makes the shot below all the more dramatic:


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ProphetM, would you consider making us an overlay of Court Flight on the current Google Street View if and when you've got time?



Thx alester young and e_r for your kind words. I added a P.S. to that post re upcoming development at Hollywood and Western if you're interested: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13061 I wish I could remember some of old Mr Dexter's great stories about the pool hall in the 40s and 50s. I do recall he had two armed employees drive him home every night with the cash box and then pick him up in the morning to take him to the bank. I never dared go down to the pool hall, although I was dying to see it. In fact, I never got out of my car anywhere near that intersection.



LOL, GaylordWilshire, you must have been desperate for some "prime sinnuendo" to go looking for it in Sarah Bixby Smith's bed. Your performance certainly made a convert of DouglasUrantia. I should sell him a couple of used cars and a bridge seeing as how you've got him primed.

Sid Hudgens would give you a job in a minute. He's always looking for hard-hitting "reporters" who can rip the mask from a scarlet woman masquerading as a "librarianesque nostalgician" with such deathless phrases as, "complicated love life", "involvements with various Reverend Smiths", "hit the sheets with her next dog-collared Smith" (that one brings up quite the visual), "Sarah's exploits", "connections to a fast crowd" "the whole mess is here". Too bad Hudgens is dead...and fictional.

It will be a great day when a 44-year-old mother of five (one child died young) can divorce the man who utterly betrayed her and their children and then (gasp!) remarry without being excoriated (in this case almost 100 years after the fact). Alas, we're not there yet.


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Sarah Hathaway "Bix" Bixby Smith (1871-1935)
Wellesley, class of 1894 (see photo above)
138 N Hill Street, Los Angeles, California

President of the Friday Morning Club (1928-33)
Vice-President of the Historical Society of Southern California (1935)
Trustee of Scripps College
First woman elected to office in Claremont, CA,
(serving on the school board for eight years)
Published author of five books
Mother of five

"liked her more for her money than anything else"?
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2013, 6:20 AM
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OK, would someone please explain the purpose of taking a picture, chopping it to pieces, and scattering it at random all over a post?
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2013, 7:04 AM
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Speaking of the intersection as a constant vortex of change... while looking for a picture showing what might have been atop the smaller pole in BifRayRock's top shot above, I came across a view showing the Hancock lot empty, 3173 still standing, and 3143 replaced by a commercial building (for reference, see post 12298):


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The northwest corner in the beginning stages of demolition, ca. 1928. The house once belonged to L.A. muckety-muck J.F. Burkhard:

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If the billboard reminded you that you need to plan your trip to Washington, here's the schedule... 7 hours, 25 minutes by piston power:

Airline Timetables






More views Wilshire/Vermont area homes, circa '28.

This stretch of Wilshire truly was impressive (to me). Reminiscent of Orange Grove Blvd. in Pasadena (e.g., Wrigley Mansion without a gland transplant)


In no particular order. (West to East: S. New Hampshire > Vermont > Shatto > Westmoreland > Wilshire Place > Virgil)


1. Wilshire Place and Wilshire









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3. "Wilshire east from Vermont."










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4. Shatto and Wilshire



Shake Shatto and Rolls (Royce).













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5. The Hancock mansion adjoined by the World Famous Gland Specialist's abode (Vermont and Wilshire)

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8. Wilshire and Westmoreland (Pre Bullocks Wilshire?)





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9. Signs indicate Virgil and Wilshire








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10. North side of Wilshire, between Virgil and Wilshire Place.


Dana Point Sales Office



ALL (chopped up or otherwise) from USC Digital




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Old Posted Mar 10, 2013, 7:07 AM
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ProphetM, would you consider making us an overlay of Court Flight on the current Google Street View if and when you've got time?
If there's an appropriate street-level shot to work with, that should be do-able.

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OK, would someone please explain the purpose of taking a picture, chopping it to pieces, and scattering it at random all over a post?
Unfortunately, the USC web site from which those pics are pulled has decided to chop up their photos into sections, and posting the sections one after another only results in a complete picture when your monitor is at an appropriate resolution. The easiest way to fix it is to temporarily use the zoom feature of your browser to increase or decrease the page size until the pic lines up properly.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2013, 8:06 AM
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If there's an appropriate street-level shot to work with, that should be do-able.
Are any of the below suitable or should I keep looking? Thanks.

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One last pic of Court Flight I found in my file.

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I don't remember seeing either of these two images of Court Flight...


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I don't think Court Flight ever looked better than here.
Court Flight, Broadway, c.1940
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Nor more forlorn than here.
Court Flight stairs, circa 1950

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A negative of the elusive Court Flight.


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below: Positive images with details. Note the sign that says ONE BIG LOOK on the lookout tower.





















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Old Posted Mar 10, 2013, 8:36 AM
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Wilton Arms Hotel 1310 S. Wilton Place. circa '53



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Old Posted Mar 10, 2013, 2:04 PM
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First automobile in Los Angeles, built by J. Philip Erie, the driver, a resident of Los Angeles at the time. Los Angeles Mayor William H. Workman is in the rear seat, 1897.

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Old Posted Mar 10, 2013, 2:10 PM
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Photo hosting...?

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If there's an appropriate street-level shot to work with, that should be do-able.



Unfortunately, the USC web site from which those pics are pulled has decided to chop up their photos into sections, and posting the sections one after another only results in a complete picture when your monitor is at an appropriate resolution. The easiest way to fix it is to temporarily use the zoom feature of your browser to increase or decrease the page size until the pic lines up properly.
Are those chopped up USC photos posted directly from the USC website?

If so, wouldn't it be easier and more aesthetic to first post the USC photos to a photo hosting site such as Photobucket before posting them to LA Noir?

Would that be a simple way to correct the situation?

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Old Posted Mar 10, 2013, 4:23 PM
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600 Spring Street -Claud Beelman

Thanks for that, Tovangar2.

I hadn't realised that the SB tower was a Claud Beelman building. His career spanned so many different architectural styles. This one must have been one of his last (he died in around 1963).

It is a pity that the banking hall didn't survive -that would have been a big ask, I suppose, taking into account technological changes and the financial services industry.

The remodelling of the exterior ground floors is grim -this seems to be a recurring theme on this thread. What a pity.

Also many thanks for the additional information on the forthcoming development at Hollywood and Western.

Alester

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I'm pretty sure there's nothing left of the old interior except some ceiling height.

Start here (next to last paragraph):
http://blogdowntown.com/2009/11/4865...er-of-a-ground

la.curbed.com has a mass of posts on the SB Tower. They're here:
http://la.curbed.com/tags/600-spring

600 Spring is a Claud Beelman building BTW.
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I’ve always had a fascination for Court Flight. More so than Angels Flight, possibly because I’ve seen and ridden on Angles Flight. But since it was gone long before I was born it makes Court a little more intriguing. So any pictures are always welcome. And maybe it’s not just the ride or the little cars – maybe it’s the view…think of what you would be looking at coming down that hill.
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LOL, GaylordWilshire, you must have been desperate for some "prime sinnuendo" to go looking for it in Sarah Bixby Smith's bed. Your performance certainly made a convert of DouglasUrantia. I should sell him a couple of used cars and a bridge seeing as how you've got him primed.

Sid Hudgens would give you a job in a minute. He's always looking for hard-hitting "reporters" who can rip the mask from a scarlet woman masquerading as a "librarianesque nostalgician" with such deathless phrases as, "complicated love life", "involvements with various Reverend Smiths", "hit the sheets with her next dog-collared Smith" (that one brings up quite the visual), "Sarah's exploits", "connections to a fast crowd" "the whole mess is here". Too bad Hudgens is dead...and fictional.

The last time I looked, this thread was called NOIRISH LOS ANGELES, not LOS ANGELES HAGIOGRAPHY. You can criticize my writing all you want--while the pedantry is nothing new, I hadn't realized that what I or what anybody else writes here would be subject to your approval. I don't know how DouglasUrantia feels about being patronized by you ("Your performance certainly made a convert of DouglasUrantia. I should sell him a couple of used cars and a bridge seeing as how you've got him primed"); for my part, while I understand that patronization is simply part of your personality here, it's not much appreciated.

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It will be a great day when a 44-year-old mother of five (one child died young) can divorce the man who utterly betrayed her and their children and then (gasp!) remarry without being excoriated (in this case almost 100 years after the fact). Alas, we're not there yet.

Isn't this thread about the dark past of L.A.? Applying the standards of today is just ridiculous and a huge buzzkill here--I can read about St. Sarah's accomplishments (away from home) on any number of websites. The facts of her messy marriages--her human side--were written about prominently in newspapers of the day, and I thought it was interesting, especially for NOIRISH LOS ANGELES, to look a little deeper into her life beyond usual hagiography. I have no reason to think Sarah Bixby Smith Smith, was, despite her apparent utter fabulousness otherwise, any more of a wonderful spouse than her husbands were.
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A little early history on the underground john at Ninth and Main...

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Are those chopped up USC photos posted directly from the USC website?

If so, wouldn't it be easier and more aesthetic to first post the USC photos to a photo hosting site such as Photobucket before posting them to LA Noir?

Would that be a simple way to correct the situation?

If kept in pieces, you'd have the same problem no matter where they were hosted. So you would also have to put them each back together again into one image in an editing program and upload that.
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Are any of the below suitable or should I keep looking? Thanks.





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A couple of those might work, but I will look myself as well when I get a chance.
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A little early history on the underground john at Ninth and Main...

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Fascinating. It gives one great relief to know that comfort stations were somehow connected to the Temperance movement. The date may even explain why the station is unmarked, since such subjects are usually not mentioned in polite company. The costs of this project suggest a lot of comfort.



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These comfort stations were probably not as commodious as the one on 9th and Main Street.

1950s downscale dwelling comfort stations
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2013, 6:21 PM
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I too am fascinated with Court Flight, Ansel Adams took some neat pictures, google his name and Court flight and you'll see a picture of the cars going down the hill, the cars look sleepy as they languidly stumble down the hill.
I read somewhere that the old cars were in the hands of a collector in California and in sad, sorry shape as the plywood was delaminated and basically falling apart due to be exposed to the weather and elements.





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I’ve always had a fascination for Court Flight. More so than Angels Flight, possibly because I’ve seen and ridden on Angles Flight. But since it was gone long before I was born it makes Court a little more intriguing. So any pictures are always welcome. And maybe it’s not just the ride or the little cars – maybe it’s the view…think of what you would be looking at coming down that hill.
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