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I'm just now closing out a 16-hour shift here at work, and I had the news on. I just now heard on WLOS that a 10-story office building has been approved for downtown Asheville, at the corner of College and Woodfin streets!

According to the news report, the building will mostly house Buncombe County offices, and will contain approximately 130,000 square feet of space. The proposal now goes to City Council for city approval.

Woo hoo! This is the tallest proposed building of all the new structures going up downtown! I checked Google Maps to look at the location of this proposal, and see an empty parking lot across the street from the jail, where a 6-story addition will be going up soon enough.

In other news, unfortunately, WLOS was also talking to people about their reactions to a monster subdivision soon to break ground in Fairview. A Charlotte company has essentially bought an entire mountain and plans to develop the living hell out of the whole thing, with literally hundreds of houses, plus commercial space.
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I'm just now closing out a 16-hour shift here at work, and I had the news on. I just now heard on WLOS that a 10-story office building has been approved for downtown Asheville, at the corner of College and Woodfin streets!

According to the news report, the building will mostly house Buncombe County offices, and will contain approximately 130,000 square feet of space. The proposal now goes to City Council for city approval.

Woo hoo! This is the tallest proposed building of all the new structures going up downtown! I checked Google Maps to look at the location of this proposal, and see an empty parking lot across the street from the jail, where a 6-story addition will be going up soon enough.
Please let us know as you find out more about this proposal. The county owns acres of surface parking around the health services building in that part of downtown. I guess this is what they've been holding onto it for. Hopefully this building will have underground parking or at least a significant integrated parking deck so that more of this surface parking can be opened up for development.
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Great news! I tried to find some article or something going into detail with a possible rendering, but found nothing.

So this is between First Baptist and the Detention Center? They will have to go with underground parking. I know there are some low-rise structures there, so that should force them to build upwards. Some of those parking lots have heavy (development) restrictions on them, but that site seems to be outside that restriction zone. I don't like expanding the footprint of the skyline (which this does), but I do welcome it. I just want to see more "high-rise" density inside the existing skyline's footprint. The parkinglot directly south of the Renaissance is my preffered location for a new skyscraper. It would have visiblity in Beaucatcher/Town skyline shots, create a more enclosed urban parkspace and add high-rise density inside the existing skyline footprint. That parking lot is so ugly too. It redefines ugly and it's in such a high visiblity area! Of course that is where my proposed 25 storey condo/office/performing arts center tower will go one day when I find someone to invest in it! Anyone with a few million interested?
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The newspaper hasn't pounced on this, so I haven't been able to find anything more to report about it. Perhaps when the city approves it -- if the city approves it, because this is Asheville after all -- the paper will have more details.

As near as I can tell, the proposed location for this building is the corner of College and Woodfin, which, by the time it gets to the intersection, has changed its name to Oak Street. There's a parking lot on the corner, and a church, smaller than First Baptist, to the north.
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It's kinda fun to keep up on the Asheville goings-on, especially now that my parents are only about an hour away from there! Interesting reading about the Asheville-GSP airport war, it's kinda funny, really... I really like GSP, it's a hell of a nice, modern, yet smallish, airport... Only 15 minutes to my parent's place, too...

It's funny, after that tour hh gave me when I was in town not too long ago, I actually KNOW where some of these projects are going!

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^ I love that site. It's the best I've found about the Urban Trail especially.
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From the Mountain X-Press (06/08/05)

Colonel Sanders slept here
Griffin Awards recognize spaces (and stories) worth saving
by Alli Marshall

I doubt I'm the only history dilettante in town whose heart sank at the sight of industrial Dumpsters outside the Whiteford G. Smith House on Haywood Street in downtown Asheville. In fact, I went so far as to enact a drive-by shooting (of the digital-camera variety) to save – at least in pixels – the rundown Queen Anne.

Luckily, the Dumpsters weren't omens of a teardown but the first phase in restoring the home's former royal presence. Of course, in Asheville there's a propensity for rescuing seemingly unsalvageable buildings from the clutches of time, neglect and kudzu. There's also an equally strong (if not quite so dramatic) movement to preserve historic gems for posterity.

"That one had been sitting there sort of moldering for years," observes Harry Weiss, urban-projects director for Public Interest Projects, a local development company. Nearly all of the Montford Historic District, which begins just a block away from the Haywood Street renovation, has already been restored, so an overhaul of the Smith House was long overdue.

And if seeing such local architectural gems brought back from death's door weren't reward enough, the Preservation Society of Asheville and Buncombe County hands out annual awards for notable feats of architectural conservation. This year's Griffin Awards ceremony, held May 19 in the Grove Arcade, honored projects ranging from a refurbished former retail store that's now a restaurant to a former no-tell motel reborn as classy condominiums. The event also featured a talk by Weiss on the past 15 years of local restoration efforts.

Transforming downtown's abandoned places into livable spaces is a continuing trend. "The lion's share of reconstruction in Asheville has been upper-floor residential," notes Weiss. "The idea is to get it into use," he says of such structures as the Sawyer Motor Company Building. "One of the key strategies for preservation is to read the building [and] adapt to what the building has to offer." And this year's Griffin Award winners testify to the wide range of uses that creative minds have found for Asheville's historic infrastructure.

Residential Rehabilitation: 31 Highland St. Owners: Peter Brezny and Trina Egen. Most likely built between 1912 and 1915 as a duplex, this two-story pebbledash home served as a rental for some 30 years before the couple purchased it. They completed the restoration work themselves, creating a modern, energy-efficient house with a '20s feel.

Adaptive Reuse: Whiteford G. Smith House, 263 Haywood St. Owner: G/M Property Group LLC. Contractor: Bobby Stearns. Woodwork and reproduction: Craig Weis. Built in 1894, this is one of only two remaining Queen Anne-style homes on Haywood Street. Preserved features of the house, which is listed on the National Register of Historic Places, include turned and bracketed porch columns, period mantels and five-panel doors with original hardware.

Commercial Rehabilitation: 375 Weaverville Highway. Contractor: Matt Moss of Moss Construction Group. Local legend has it that Col. Harland Sanders (of KFC fame) owned this 1930s motor court. The original 15- or 16-unit property has been converted into efficiency apartments, with renovations focused on returning the exterior as closely as possible to its original look. Items such as Eastlake hardware and art deco hinges were salvaged.

Interior Commercial Rehabilitation: 12 Church St. Owners: John Yurko and David Aiton. Architects: John Yurko and David Aiton. Originally used as the architectural offices of Richard Sharp Smith, this building is now home to the Minerva gallery and, appropriately, two architectural firms. Renovations included restorating the heart-pine floors and lime-plaster walls.

Adaptive Reuse: 37 Hiawassee St. Owners: Urban Space of Asheville. Architect Robbie Sweetser of Griffin Architects. Contractor: Abbott Construction. In its previous life, this property, which was completed in 1963, was the Interstate Motel, boasting 55 rooms and a $29 nightly rate. It was transformed into 32 residential condos with full amenities and an egress barrier to minimize traffic noise.

Residential Rehabilitation: 73 Edgemont Road. Owners: Geoff and Cheryl Smith. Contractor: Woodworth Inc. This 1960s ranch house had a makeover, emerging as a 1920s-style Arts and Crafts bungalow. Salvaged and vintage supplies include a clawfoot tub and stained-glass windows.

Addition to a Historic Residence: Violet Cottage, 48 Sunset Terrace. Owners: Deborah and Gordon Pirie. Architect: Robbie Sweetser of Griffin Architects. Contractor: A&B Construction and Development. Grove Arcade architect Charles N. Parker designed this 1920s Arts and Crafts chalet. Improvements included replacing a poorly constructed one-story bay with a new two-story bay.

Residential Rehabilitation, Montford: 28 Soco St. Owners: Joseph and Wanda Newman. Restoration craftsman: Tim Petree. This early 1900s Queen Anne-style home underwent major restoration. From structural repair to refinishing the heart-pine floors, the house was returned to its original glory – with a few modernizations like new electrical and plumbing systems and the addition of a laundry chute.

Rehabilitation: Mt. Zion Missionary Baptist Church, 47 Eagle St. Steward: Dr. John Grant. Contractor: Stroup Sheet Metal Works. Built in 1919 in the African-American commercial district, this church received stone masonry repairs as well as a new roof. New tin shingles with a galvanized-steel finish were made from original patterns.

Commercial Restoration: Jackson Building, 22 S. Pack Square. Steward: Landmark Properties. Known as Asheville's first skyscraper, this 13-story building was constructed in 1924. The Gothic exterior, sheathed in brick and terra cotta, was reconditioned to extend the building's life.

Interior Commercial Rehabilitation: The Lobster Trap, 35 Patton Ave. Owner: Amy Bell. Architect: Cynthia Turner of Glazer Architecture. Contractor: Rick Flemming of RPF Construction. This building started out as the J.H. Law China and Cutlery Store in 1885 and has housed a series of retail shops. For its latest incarnation as a restaurant, sprinklers and a full kitchen and bar were added.

Adaptive Reuse: West Condominium, 51 College St. and 35 Patton Ave. Owners: Steve and Mary Ann West. Architect: Laurie Miller of Glazer Architecture. Contractor: Rick Flemming of RPF Construction. Occupying the same building as the Lobster Trap, this condo received structural repairs and upgrades. The boarded ceiling was salvaged, hardwood floors were added, and an existing chimney was utilized for a gas-log fireplace.

New Construction, Montford: Schultz Cottage, 40 Watauga St. Owner: Shirley Schultz. Architect: Laurie Miller of Glazer Architecture. Contractor: Greg Borden. When Schultz decided to move to Asheville, she chose a perfect location: a cottage behind her daughter's Richard Sharp Smith-designed home. In order to make the new construction fit into the Montford Historic District, cues were taken from the main home, including a dropped gable roof and pebbledash stucco.

New Construction, Downtown: Sawyer Annex, 120 Coxe Ave. Owner: Sawyer Annex LLC. Architect: Fisher Architects. Contractor: Rick Flemming of RPF Construction. After renovating the 1926 Sawyer Motor Company Building (formerly a car dealership) into condos and retail/office space, the owners performed the same magic on the three-story annex.

Individual Award for Leadership: John Horton, a restoration specialist with the North Carolina Department of Cultural Resources' Office of Archives and History. Horton has served in the Biltmore Village-based historic-preservation office for 15 years, surviving many budget cuts and bureaucratic challenges. His duties include coordinating grant-in-aid and tax-credit programs as well as monitoring the rehabilitation of National Register properties.

For more information on the Griffin Awards and historic preservation, call the Preservation Society of Asheville and Buncombe County at 254-2343 or visit their Web site (www.psabc.org).

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I remember the house they mention above, but I never knew its name. For a very long time, it had a distinct list to the right, and I'm glad they brought it back to life. It's a real beauty! Now... if they could just do something about the crappy buildings that surround it...
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Montford is actually very cool! The Rankin House is the oldest (1846 or 1847). That house is older than the neighborhood though. The neighborhood was developed by George Pack in 1889, if I'm not mistaken? Hard to believe that was a suburb! I think we often forget that even 110+ years ago, people were moving to the suburbs, shopping at national chains and stores were opening in these neighboroods, so residents didn't have to go to Downtown. When you look at it closely, things haven't changed as much as we think. Each change in transporation technology allows the next generation to move to the undeveloped farm/forest land behind the previous generation's. When the suburbs go out so far, people begin to leave the area for the next city they can do this to. At least the present generation nationally is starting to think about downtown in a big way. Our city is a ahead of most in the region by about 5-10 years.

I was looking at the new sections of the Grove Park Inn (Sammons and Vanderbilt wings), and the Vanderbilt Wing appears to be 10 stories or more. I counted at least 10 floors. I think the Sammons is 8 floors (1984) and Vanderbilt is 10 floors (1988)? Anyone have the exact stats on the additions (new wings)? They have really damaged the architectural character of that old resort with their expansions. I think the experience of staying there was cheapened by those wings and expansions that don't match the building and overwhelm it.
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I agree, although I wonder what could be done to retrofit them. I mean, you can't tear them down, nor would the Inn ever dream of doing so, because the Main Inn only has about 130 rooms. The two wings bump the total up to more than 500.

I'd like to see the Inn, instead of constantly plotting to buy and demolish historic mansions in the Grove Park neighborhood, do more with what they have, and do more to weave the whole mess up there on the mountain more tightly together.
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From the Asheville Citizen-Times (06/09/05)

Gary Jackson named Asheville's new city manager
By Julie Ball
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ASHEVILLE - City Council voted unanimously today to name Gary W. Jackson, the former city manager of Fort Worth, Texas, to the city of Asheville’s top administrative post.

Jackson will succeed City Manager Jim Westbrook, who is retiring after 11 years in that job. As city manager, he will head up a 1,000-person city workforce and work to implement the policies of council.

“I’ll deeply moved for the opportunity,” Jackson said.

He pledged to work on communication, collaboration and continuing improvement for Asheville.

“I recognize that Asheville didn’t get to where it is today by accident,” he said.

Jackson will be paid $140,000 a year, according to Mayor Charles Worley.

Worley cited Jackson’s breadth of experience in the decision to hire him. His first day on the job will be June 27.

Council earlier narrowed the field of applicants for the job down to three finalists. The other finalists were Jeff B. Richardson, Asheville’s assistant city manager, and Steven T. Thompson, former city manager of Greenville, S.C.

Jackson, 51, worked as city manager of Fort Worth from 2001 until last August. After graduating from Miami University of Ohio, Jackson went to work as a social worker in Dayton, Ohio. He said he felt he could have a much greater impact at city hall, so he went back to college for his master’s degree.

“I came to it (city government) by way of growing up in the central city in Dayton, Ohio, and I wanted to pursue something that would allow me to make the community better,” Jackson said.

He holds a master’s of public administration from the University of Kansas. In addition to the Fort Worth job, he’s worked as city manager in Carrollton, Texas.

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I saw this in the "Breaking News" section of the paper when I came in to work today, and it's big news for us. However, is this a good thing or a bad thing, I wonder? Because so few people read this and stay current with what's doing in Asheville, I think I'll post this in the Texas forum and see what anyone from Ft. Worth might have to say.
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From the Asheville Citizen-Times (06/10/05)

Jackson named new city manager
Former Fort Worth manager wants to ‘get out and meet people’
By Julie Ball
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ASHEVILLE — With a pledge to promote partnerships in the community, the former Fort Worth, Texas, city manager will take over as Asheville’s city manager later this month.

Members of Asheville City Council unanimously agreed to hire Gary Jackson on Thursday.

Jackson, 51, replaces 61-year-old Jim Westbrook, who is retiring after 11 years as city manager. Jackson will take over the job June 27 and will be paid $140,000 a year.

“It’s important for people to know that I’m open and accessible. I’m really looking forward to invitations to get out of City Hall and meet people,” Jackson said. “I’m not coming here with all the answers, and I am looking forward to learning about the community through other people’s perspective.”

Chris Pelly, president of the Coalition of Asheville Neighborhoods, called Jackson a good choice and said he liked Jackson’s “proactive approach with the neighborhoods in the cities where he previously worked.”

“I just thought he was a strong candidate,” Pelly said. “We need somebody that listens to all segments of the community, and I believe we’re going to have that in this person.”

Jackson spent three years as city manager in Fort Worth. There, he headed a staff of 5,500 people in a city that has grown in population to more than 600,000.

Jackson left that job last year amid criticism over a new trash program and news reports that he was under pressure to resign. Since then, he has worked as a management consultant.

Asheville Mayor Charles Worley said he did not consider the situation in Fort Worth a mark against Jackson.

“We understood the circumstances, and we’re very comfortable with that,” Worley said.

Fort Worth Councilwoman Becky Haskin said Jackson lost four of his five assistant managers — two to illness and two to retirement — making it tough for him.

On top of that, “We had a new mayor that came in and wanted to change everything,” Haskin said.

Asheville Councilwoman Terry Bellamy called Jackson a “comprehensive candidate” and cited his ability to deal with developers and to seek input from neighborhoods on projects.

“The ability to mesh developers’ needs with residents’ needs, to bring them together to put forth good plans and policies for city council, his track record is very successful,” Bellamy said.

While in Fort Worth, Jackson worked on a public-private project to renovate an office tower that was damaged by a tornado in 2000. He also was involved in negotiations to bring a 600-room hotel to downtown Fort Worth and worked on a $265 million bond package for infrastructure needs.

“My style is to promote teamwork, involve and empower managers and rely on business techniques, establishing business plans, goals and objectives,” he said.

Before taking over at Fort Worth, Jackson spent about five years as the city manager of Carrollton, Texas, a city of more than 100,000 near Dallas.

While he was city manager in Carrollton, the city came under fire after some city workers bulldozed over the nesting site of some egrets. Following the controversy, the city suspended three workers, according to published reports.

Jackson has also worked in Liberty, Mo., and Coon Rapids, Minn., and he spent nine years working for the city of Dallas, eventually serving as assistant to the city manager.

Born in Frederick, Md., Jackson grew up in Dayton, Ohio.

He went to work as a social worker in Dayton after graduating from Miami University of Ohio.

But Jackson said he feels he could have an even greater impact working for city government. He has a master’s degree in public administration from the University of Kansas.

“I was ready for a change from the big city pressure cooker. I was looking for the right opportunity, and Asheville was the perfect opportunity to find the right balance,” he said.

Jackson is also a competitive bicyclist. He and his wife, Kathy, have two sons, ages 11 and 13.

“I’m attracted here (to Asheville) for the very same reasons that everybody else is attracted to Asheville — the quality of life, the diversity and the character of the community,” Jackson said.

Challenges ahead
Jackson said as city manager, he will emphasize communication, collaboration and continuing improvement for the city.

But he will face a number of challenges.

The first of which will be the expiring water agreement, unless city and county leaders reach a deal soon. The agreement set up the existing water authority, but city leaders announced last year that they want out of the deal. The water agreement ends June 30.

“I’m going to go to school on the issue,” Jackson said. “I think it’s about relationships at this point.”

Jackson sees as another challenge managing the city’s growth while protecting the environment and character of the area.

“One of the things I would challenge him (the new city manager) to do would be to come out and talk and have a town hall meeting, and find out what their needs are,” said Keith A. Ogden, pastor at Hill Street Baptist Church.

Ogden attended a forum last month that featured all three city council candidates. He says affordable housing and addressing the concerns of poorer neighborhoods are key challenges for the new city manager.

“The city manager plays such an incredible role,” said William Wilcox, president of Tower Associates in Asheville.

The new manager will have a lot on his plate, but Wilcox said, “We’re excited about having him on board.”

Contact Ball at 232-5851 or jball@CITIZEN-TIMES.com.

On the Net: www.ci.asheville.nc.us.

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Sidebar: Community reaction

Thomas Rightmyer of Asheville: Any one of them (the three finalists for the job) would do. My personal favorite was the assistant city manager (Jeff Richardson) just because he’s local. ... But I’m sure the fellow who has been chosen will do a fine job.

“He (Gary Jackson) has the advantage of coming in fresh and not knowing anybody. He has the advantage of experience in a city larger than Asheville.”

Keith A. Ogden, pastor of Hill Street Baptist Church: “One of the things I would challenge him (the new city manager) to do would be to come out and talk and have a town hall meeting, and find out what their needs are. We need (someone) that’s going to actually come out and talk to the people and find out what’s going on.

“Come sit down and talk with these pastors. … We have the members in our church, and we hear their cries. We hear their complaints.”

Edna Campos of Asheville: “Most people who live in Texas understand the issues about diversity… It means this particular person is going to have some experience working with minority communities. With the anticipated growth we have in different communities, with new people coming here, I think it can be helpful.”

Campos added that Gary Jackson’s experience working in a larger city would be to his advantage in Asheville.

Chris Pelly, of Haw Creek, president of the Coalition of Asheville Neighborhoods: “I’m glad to hear they selected him (Gary Jackson). He was a strong choice,” Pelly said. “We need somebody that listens to all segments of the community, and I believe we’re going to have that in this person.”
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From the Asheville Citizen-Times (06/13/05)

Projects would have downtown growing up
Proposed building, parking deck would alter portion of inner city
By Mark Barrett
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ASHEVILLE — County government and private developers are planning two large building projects that could change the look and feel of the eastern end of downtown.

One is a proposed office building of up to 10 stories and 130,000 square feet at the corner of College and Oak streets, on what’s now a parking lot at the northwest corner of the new traffic roundabout on College Street. If City Council approves plans next month, construction would begin in spring 2006, its developer says.

The other is a parking deck with 600 to 700 spaces that would be located on what’s now a surface parking lot between the county health center building and Woodfin Street. The county is still negotiating with a private company but hopes construction might begin this fall, Assistant County Manager Jon Creighton said.

As currently planned, the office building would contain a bank and some retail space on the first floor, bank offices on the second, and five floors of Buncombe County office space with the remainder to be leased to other businesses.

If all 10 stories are built — the exact size of the building depends on demand for office space, developer Greg Edney says — the College Street building would be shorter than only a handful of others downtown and would be a noticeable addition to views of downtown from the east.

“It’s a significant building. It’s going to be very prominent, very attractive,” said Alan Glines, a city planner who is reviewing the project.

A new view

Areas of downtown radiating out from Pack Square and Pritchard Park have seen dramatic changes over the past 15 years or so as older buildings have been renovated into shops, restaurants and offices, resulting in a huge increase in pedestrian traffic.

But much of the area from the county courthouse east toward Beaucatcher Tunnel is a checkerboard of office buildings and surface parking lots with what Glines called a “suburban” feel.

People interviewed in the area between showers Friday afternoon had a generally positive reaction to the office building project.

“It’d be better than looking at a parking lot,” said Janet LeCount, who works across College Street from the proposed site.

“That’s a nice-looking building,” Luther Jackson said when shown an artist’s rendering.

Lela Stephens said “infill development” in downtown is preferable to sprawl in suburban areas. She wasn’t crazy about the building design, but said, “it’s got to be better than the BB&T Building.”

“We viewed the structure as a gateway into our downtown,” said Chad Roberson, principal and director of the Asheville office of PBC+L Architecture, building architects.

“The building is located in an area with several structures of the same scale, allowing it to fit within the existing urban fabric,” he said, and is designed to encourage pedestrian use.

County plans

Edney and his Skyland-based Northwest Property Group would develop the office building on land that he would lease long-term from the county. Creighton said the county is negotiating a similar deal for a private company, which he did not identify, to put the parking garage near the health building.

The office building would allow the county to put workers now spread across several locations in one building and to in turn move some workers out of leased space into space the consolidation would vacate, Creighton said.

In addition to its own employees, about 1,200 of whom work downtown, the county is responsible for providing space for certain state workers in the court system. That can be a burden, Creighton said.

“The cost of downtown space is a lot more than it was five years ago,” he said.

The county manager, personnel, finance, county attorney and planning offices would probably move into the new space, Creighton said. The county is considering moving commissioners’ offices and meeting room into the new building, but no decision has been made, Creighton said.

Moving commissioners out of the courthouse would be a break with tradition, but the roughly 80 seats in the current meeting room aren’t enough and it needs other improvements, he said.

“Even though we doubled the size of it (a few years ago), it’s still small for a public meeting room for a county with 200,000 people. If you get a hundred people in a meeting, you have people standing in the hall,” he said.

Citizens don’t pack the room often, but when they do, no one wants to left outside, Creighton said: “You want to come to a meeting and all of a sudden you end up standing in the hall. Nobody’s happy about that.”

The city Planning Commission has already approved the project. The proposed site is zoned for office use, but the project would require City Council approval as well because of its size.

Parking problems

Parking for county employees is so tight now that some use a county lot on Charlotte Street north of Interstate 240 and the county supplies a shuttle to get them to and from work, Creighton said.

“Everybody that comes in the court system or the health department complains that we can’t find a place to park,” he said.

County officials hope to strike a deal for the parking deck this summer, he said. They are talking with city government about whether the parking deck would also include some office or retail space, Creighton said.

Parking was the point of concern about the office building for Kathy Kelley, a state employee who works in the courthouse and parks on the building site.

“They ought to stop building all these buildings,” she said. “People need a place to park,” Kelley said, calling the office building plan “ridiculous.”

Candaus Richardson said he would be glad to see more downtown growth.

“I think it’d be good for Asheville,” he said. “It’s already a sleepy town which is on the verge of becoming a booming city.”

Contact Barrett at 232-5833 or mbarrett@CITIZEN-TIMES.com.

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^ Is it a thing of beauty? No. It's more of the same "modernist bland" crap going up all over downtown, but it is better than a parking lot.
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It was beautiful before I saw the rendering. Just this short line...

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a proposed office building of up to 10 stories and 130,000 square feet
and this one also...

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“It’s a significant building. It’s going to be very prominent
It had me from significant. I knew it was the building I've been waiting for.

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the College Street building would be shorter than only a handful of others downtown and would be a noticeable addition to views of downtown from the east.
It's going to be beautiful! I counted 11 floors! I'm adding it now. I've added the buildings along Macon Street Friday and now this one. I consider the Grove as three seperate buildings. Also I added my favorite condo tower on Macon Street.

Currently we don't have an excellent example of Post Modern. I don't consider the National Climatic data Center a true Post Modern Building. I think of it more as a Modern Building than Post Modern. This is a true Post Modern Building, like a missing piece of Asheville's urban fabric and it's a tall example, not a short one. I welcome this! We need an example of this style. We also need more skyscrapers. I welcome anything over 6-7 floors with open arms! We must break ground before the NIMBYs stop it! I've got my shovel! I want this! They can't break ground fast enough for me! I just worry a group of anit-growth NIMBYs will stop it.

You should've posted this as a seperate thread announcing a new skyscraper in Asheville in it's title.
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I love the reaction "They ought to stop building all these buildings [on parking lots]. People need a place to park. This is ridiculous."

I'm sorry, but your reaction is what's ridiculous, especially since a 700 space parking deck is being considered just down the street. Are your thought patterns so incurably suburban that you not only demand lots of parking, but it has to be surface parking too? Go away, whoever you are. You don't belong downtown anywhere and we don't want you in Asheville.
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I considered writing a letter to the editor concerning that nitwit, but I figure what she said was so patently ridiculous that it didn't need to be pointed out again.
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I know parking is tight there, but a parking deck would solve all those problems and be like adding more surface lots. Not only that, but her SUV would stay cool and protected during the summer or storms.

We'll it's NIMBY time! I listed her at SkyscraperCity as Matt's NIMBY of the Week and I think she will be NIMBY of the Year this year. It will be hard to beat that statement! She is the first of many who will try to stop this project and bring it down to Asheville's Official NIMBY height limit of 6-7 floors. They are the reason that area hasn't developed and the reason so many are scared of developing those lots. That and there is a "real" height limit over some of them.

I'm also still excited about the chance for a 15+ storey hotel on Lexington at Hiawassee! I think in the very near future, Hiawassee and part of Rankin could be closed to traffic and we could get an improved and expanded Civic Center to meet up with the hotel and auditorium, offering 50,000-100,000 new square feet of convention space and the ability to walk from facility to facility without going ouside. This new city manager could be the guy to make things happen at the Civic Center and Wolfe site.

WOW! I am excitied, ....if something breaks ground.
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My main concern with a Civic Center expansion and the proposed Hammon hotel is that it will be the de facto kiss of death for North Lexington Avenue. Already, landlords are tossing out their tenants in anticipation of the Porcelain Doll Emporium, Armani, and Overpriced Gewgaws Ltd. I hate that. It's legal, sure, but that doesn't make it right.
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