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Originally Posted by Jets4Life
No offense, but you have absolutely no idea what is going on in Europe. If I am so wrong, why is an incompetent politician like Donald Trump within striking distance of becoming the next American president.
PS...I did not mention Australia or Ocenia, Latin America, etc. Most people know what I am talking about. My way of thinking is supported by a huge percentage of people in most Western based democracies. In fact, my opinion is that of the majority in the USA, UK, Eastern Europe, and even Canada.
Say what you want about me. I could not care less about being "politically correct." On a forum like this, it will lead to a lot of non-so-kind replies. However, this must be addressed if we are to grow as a nation. We can't just put our heads in the sand like Germany, Sweden, France, and some other Western European countries are doing. When decorated soldiers are killed in broad daylight, in the most barbaric way imaginable, it's time to start debating about whether we should close the borders to the ethnic community responsible for these acts.
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Lol well, you might be right that I have "no idea" about what's going on over there...maybe my lack of an idea is that I am biased, because I voted against Brexit (by proxy, since I'm a British citizen...with investments, property, family, well a bunch of ties to the UK and the EU in general...I have to follow it as a result, I like to be informed about my vote, yes its been a hot topic there recently, my own family was divided about it too, though mostly unanimous as to the long term impact of leaving...but worth mentioning that it is also a topic that has been hot decades before Brexit became a coined term)
And I am not trying to be snarky here; I don't know if you are an EU (or former EU) citizen and if you are indirectly affected by what has been going on there, with respect to your profession or family or personal investments, and I don't know how long you've been following the various iterations of this overarching movement that ultimately made Brexit a reality (which predates my lifespan)
Most of the immigrants that have had the pro-Brexit population up in arms aren't even of middle eastern origin or muslims. In fact they come from one of the areas you said we should let in Canada in an earlier post that starts and ends with an "E". Sure, different regions of the UK had differing opinions, but for example I know of a few British Muslim neighbours who voted for Brexit for that very reason...they were up in arms for the same reason many pro-Brexit Brits were (I didn't agree with their opinion on leaving but alas democracy and all that, but I digress...this is all a bit OT for a Winnipeg CMA thread....though, Brexit has been a ridiculous gong show)
Politically correct or not, you still effectively single out Muslims...Why? Your "Christian Africa" statement really exemplifies this...why on earth should a Non-Christain African be treated any differently in the immigration process than someone who lives next door in the same African country but has a different faith?
Most of those who are in need of refuge from the atrocities going on in the middle east right now would be excluded from our borders based on your criteria....yet we could allow some "fanatic" in our borders from Europe...which for whatever reason is "OK" or passes the "they can come to Canada because of where they live" test
I have no personal stake or attachment to your opinions about the extremists. In fact I share a belief with you in that religious fanatics can be dangerous (but this goes for any person, of any religion). It is a fact that there are some downright monstrous terrorist organizations on this planet and we do need to protect ourselves and our citizens from these threats.
I do, however, have an issue with your implications, and singling out millions of people just because of their faith or that they are from the Middle East or from "Non Christian" Africa or some set of regions that you are "hopeful" about immigrating over others....this kind of train of thought is just....its beyond disappointing to read someone, someone who seems to be a relatively well educated Canadian at that, effectively excluding an entire group or groups of people based on their faith.
Yeah, sure you did say "not all of them are bad..." but reading between the lines of your posts from the initial statements to this one... there is a clear, negative bias. I mean, if it was just about the terrorism aspect, you wouldn't need to exclude the Middle East in that list or "non Christain" Africa from your list...(never mind that there are millions of Christians in the middle east) and further explain why you left out places like Australia "cause we should know what you're getting at"...that is ridiculous dude.
At least you love the Jets, so I guess you're not all bad