NEW YORK | 2020 Census data | 8,804,190

[chris08876]

I'm going with ~ 8,504,000. I'm guessing a growth of slightly over 1.2 percent. Thats if the census doesn't botch up the true population, which is more than its estimates according to the citys estimates which tend to be closer to reality.

[C.]

Borough        2013 Population     Change      2014 Population
Brooklyn       2,602,373           19,420      2,621,793
Queens         2,303,993	   17,587      2,321,580
Manhattan      1,632,005            4,263      1,636,268         
Bronx          1,427,317           10,842      1,438,159
Staten Island    472,691              588        473,279

New York City's total population estimate, according to the Census Bureau, is now 8,491,079. The 2013 population estimate was revised upward. The new 2013 numbers are shown above. The change doesn't tell the full story. Comparing the change for each borough using the original 2013 vintage numbers when they were first reported is next. Originally, the 2013 overall estimate was 8,405,837. The change from the 2013 numbers when they were first reported to 2014 is a staggering 85,242! The new thread title show now read:

NEW YORK | 2010 Census data | 8,175,133 City (8,491,079 - 2014)

[C.]

Originally Posted by chris08876

I'm going with ~ 8,504,000. I'm guessing a growth of slightly over 1.2 percent. Thats if the census doesn't botch up the true population, which is more than its estimates according to the citys estimates which tend to be closer to reality.

If we're using price is right rules, I win

Here is the 2013 numbers that were originally reported:

Bronx 1,418,733
Brooklyn 2,592,149
Manhattan 1,626,159
Queens 2,296,175
Staten Island 472,621

Change
Bronx +19,426
Brooklyn +29,644
Manhattan +10,109
Queens +25,405
Staten Island +658

Total +85,242

Change from 2013-2014 = 1.01%
Change from 2000-2014 = 3.86%

One percent a year isn't bad.


And just for fun, the six borough

The 6th Borough    2013 Population     Change      2014 Population
Hudson County      663,906	       5,209       669,115

Using the vintage 2013 numbers: 660,282 +8,833
2013-2014 increase = 1.34%
2000-2014 increase = 5.49%

Jersey City and other Hudson county communities will be showing impressive gains as it seems the pace of residential construction is speeding up.

[fleonzo]

Originally Posted by CIA

Borough        2013 Population     Change      2014 Population
Brooklyn       2,602,373           19,420      2,621,793
Queens         2,303,993	   17,587      2,321,580
Manhattan      1,632,005            4,263      1,636,268         
Bronx          1,427,317           10,842      1,438,159
Staten Island    472,691              588        473,279

New York City's total population estimate, according to the Census Bureau, is now 8,491,079. The 2013 population estimate was revised upward. The new 2013 numbers are shown above. The change doesn't tell the full story. Comparing the change for each borough using the original 2013 vintage numbers when they were first reported is next. Originally, the 2013 overall estimate was 8,405,837. The change from the 2013 numbers when they were first reported to 2014 is a staggering 85,242! The new thread title show now read:

NEW YORK | 2010 Census data | 8,175,133 City (8,491,079 - 2014)

So....what does this mean? We (NYC) added "85,000" in A YEAR? If so, no wonder prices keep climbing in my hood (LIC)!!

[C.]

Originally Posted by fleonzo

So....what does this mean? We (NYC) added "85,000" in A YEAR? If so, no wonder prices keep climbing in my hood (LIC)!!

Exactly. Dear de Blasio, screw the naysayers and push those rezonings as part of your affordable housing plan though. Otherwise the working class/middle class and many other folks that voted for you will be priced out of their own neighborhoods. It's sickening having 4 or 5 people in a 2 bed/1 bath apartment buts that's the only way a lot of people can afford rent these days.

[MolsonExport]

Awesome numbers. It is fantastic to see increasing density.

[10023]

Originally Posted by CIA

It's sickening having 4 or 5 people in a 2 bed/1 bath apartment buts that's the only way a lot of people can afford rent these days.

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Awesome numbers. It is fantastic to see increasing density.

This is why I love SSP. You can get these two posts back to back and no one sees the contradiction.

[C.]

Originally Posted by 10023

This is why I love SSP. You can get these two posts back to back and no one sees the contradiction.

Hahaha! I'm a fan of increasing density by means of increasing the supply of housing for all income brackets. I really wish there was more housing being built in addition to all these super luxury supertalls, which are often times second or third homes.

Rents are rising fast because new supply isn't keeping up with demand. Having four occupants or more in a two bedroom apartment is a symptom of failed city policy. There is an emergency need for new housing which should supersede concerns from NIMBYs.

The housing advocates too are out to lunch most of the time. They are too focused on housing for the very poor and advocate for silly things like 100% income restricted housing, which can never be built without significant government subsidizes. I wish there focus would be on creating more housing for all incomes. The middle class is struggling too.

I think Mayor de Blasio has seen the light and has been aggressively pursuing rezoning to allow for the creation of new housing on underutilized lands. We'll see if he is able to deliver.

[Docere]

% immigrant, 2nd generation, 2.5 generation and 3rd generation+ from the March 2014 ACS (via John Mollenkopf at CUNY):

NH White: 28.3%, 8%, 7.7%, 56.1%

NH Black: 37.6%, 16.6%, 4.9%, 40.9%

NH Asian: 64.2%, 32.1%, 1.5%, 2.2%

Hispanic: 37.5%, 19.7%, 7.2%, 35.5%

Total population: 38.8%, 17.2%, 6%, 38%

Well less than half of Blacks (41%) are native born to 2 native born parents.

In most US cities, you have Hispanic and Asian populations that are heavily foreign born but with white and black populations that are overwhelmingly native born to native parents.

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by Docere

Well less than half of Blacks (41%) are native born to 2 native born parents.

In most US cities, you have Hispanic and Asian populations that are heavily foreign born but with white and black populations that are overwhelmingly native born to native parents.

The black population in NYC is pretty different from the typical U.S. black demographic. I assume Miami probably has a similar profile, but I doubt there are too many cities where the % of blacks who are foreign born is the same as the % of Hispanics who are foreign born (though this is a bit misleading in that the largest Hispanic ethnicity, Puerto Ricans, don't count as foreign born).

[Docere]

Yeah, among US major cities only in Miami-Fort Lauderdale and perhaps Boston do immigrant blacks and their children outnumber AAs.

And in the case of Miami, you have hardly any African immigrants, hardly any Asians and an overwhelmingly native born white population. The foreign born population is proportionately the highest in America, but overwhelmingly from Latin America and the Caribbean.

[Gantz]

Originally Posted by CIA

The change from the 2013 numbers when they were first reported to 2014 is a staggering 85,242!

Thats not bad, but Houston added 156,000 people in a year.

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by Gantz

Thats not bad, but Houston added 156,000 people in a year.

Not true. The Houston metro area added 156k. We have no numbers for Houston proper yet.

[Gantz]

Originally Posted by Crawford

Not true. The Houston metro area added 156k. We have no numbers for Houston proper yet.

Yeah, but Houston metro is smaller than NYC. Its roughly like NYC minus the Bronx and Staten Island.

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by Gantz

Yeah, but Houston metro is smaller than NYC. Its roughly like NYC minus the Bronx and Staten Island.

Ok, I guess? What does existing population have to do with population growth? And how is the Houston metro similar to Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens?

In any case, we don't have numbers for Houston. We only have numbers for cities which are coterminous with counties (so NYC, Philly, Baltimore, DC, SF, St. Louis and a few others).

[dave8721]

Originally Posted by Docere

And in the case of Miami, you have hardly any African immigrants, hardly any Asians and an overwhelmingly native born white population. The foreign born population is proportionately the highest in America, but overwhelmingly from Latin America and the Caribbean.

He means black immigrants. Miami's black immigrant community is largely Haitian, Bahamian and Jamaican rather than directly from Africa.

[dave8721]

Originally Posted by Crawford

Ok, I guess? What does existing population have to do with population growth? And how is the Houston metro similar to Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens?

In any case, we don't have numbers for Houston. We only have numbers for cities which are coterminous with counties (so NYC, Philly, Baltimore, DC, SF, St. Louis and a few others).

We have the numbers for Harris County at least which added 89,000 people in a year.

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by dave8721

We have the numbers for Harris County at least which added 89,000 people in a year.

Houston is roughly half of Harris County, I think, so maybe guestimate that Houston added around 44.5k, maybe?

[Docere]

Originally Posted by dave8721

He means black immigrants. Miami's black immigrant community is largely Haitian, Bahamian and Jamaican rather than directly from Africa.

Mostly? Almost entirely in fact.

I was just commenting that NYC and Miami were among the few cities where immigrant blacks and their children outnumber AAs. NYC's black immigrant population is probably split about 80/20 between Caribbean and African, but in Miami it's probably about 98% Caribbean.

[C.]

Originally Posted by Gantz

Yeah, but Houston metro is smaller than NYC. Its roughly like NYC minus the Bronx and Staten Island.

Come back when metro Houston runs out of open developable land and approaches 8 million souls. It's much easier to grow without zoning constraints and greenfields.

I personally wonder why folks, especially retirees, chose to live in the fringes of the NYC metro area. Why not move to Texas or Florida if seeking a more laid back and suburban lifestyle. The cost of living and property taxes are a lot cheaper, especially if in NJ, and that's very important to them.

I also took a peek at New Jersey's 2014 estimates for each county of the state. Many of the smaller ones are losing folks and have been for a number of years now. Maybe folks in a county like Cape May are the ones moving to places like Texas.