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Old Posted Jul 18, 2014, 9:31 PM
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http://gizmodo.com/inside-the-futuri...a-b-1606935392

Inside the Futuristic Neighborhood Being Built Over a Busy NYC Rail Yard





July 18, 2014
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On the west side of Manhattan, a new neighborhood is taking shape. This is Hudson Yards, a development that will turn a dreary section of Manhattan into a technologically advanced neighborhood of the future. But in order to do that, its designers are undertaking one of the most expensive and unusual engineering projects in NYC history.

The rail yard takes up a massive area of precious city acreage, bumping up against the third stretch of the High Line park. The base of the site is almost entirely occupied by tracks, leaving less than half the area for supporting the actual buildings. To make up for the lost space, workers are methodically drilling caissons deep into the earth, creating a foundation for Hudson Yards—which includes not only skyscrapers and apartment buildings, but a Bryant Park-sized public space.

But before the entire artificial foundation is in place, there's work to be done: Amtrak is installing a sealed tunnel—essentially, a box—the length of the neighborhood underneath the yards. This nondescript space is like a $185 million placeholder, since one day they plan to build another tunnel to New Jersey at this spot.

There's no funding for such a project yet, though. So instead, they're building the entrance of the tunnel in anticipation of one day having the cash to finish it. Since Hudson Yards will soon rise over the spot, it would be nearly impossible to dig the hole later on.

When Hudson Yards is finished, there won't be anything like it in NYC—let alone the entire US. It will also be one of the most technologically advanced neighborhoods in the world. For example, Hudson Yards will run its own micro-grid: An independent 13.2-megawatt generator will power its buildings. Cabling is being done to provide unprecedented network and Wi-Fi connectivity with multiple fail safes to keep the network online.

The neighborhood will run elevated above street level, at the same height as the High Line. That means you'll be able to walk from the High Line onto the Yards' green space and massive retail center seamlessly.

And unlike the rest of the city, your trash bags will never hit the street.

That's because the neighborhood is being built from the ground up, which means it can incorporate a vacuum tube system to transport trash from inside buildings to underneath them. That's right—Hudson Yards will have one of the country's few pneumatic trash systems.

Hudson Yards' developers want it to become the first truly connected neighborhood in NYC, so its smart systems will extend to the street, too. Construction crews will install sensors to monitor traffic, electric and heat use, and several other components of neighborhood life. The idea is to extend "The Internet of Things" to this entire neighborhood. It's going to be a huge high-tech computer.

New York is an aging city. We take its flaws, from the garbage to the crumbling infrastructure, as eccentricities. But what's being done at Hudson Yards feels like a first step towards a future version of New York. It's everything we wish our city could be, because it's built from everything we've learned so far.

Perfect cell service, Wi-Fi everywhere, trash out of sight, and fantastical engineering: It's nearly utopian in scale. At the same time, it raises plenty of the same issues that already exist in New York—including whether the neighborhood will be truly accessible to all New Yorkers, not just the wealthy ones. And we'll be keeping a close eye on the site as it continues to rise.


















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Comparison showing the progress of the building over about five weeks. The picture I posted is a capture from a Gigapan taken on june 10th with a view similar as the posted by NYCLuver on july 18th
http://gigapan.com/gigapans/156696
There are almost three more floors in a bit more than five weeks, about one floor every two weeks. I think they will speed up later, but if the keep that pace they should do (edit.
I mistakenly wrote 25 more floors, but there are 25, or less, weeks until the end of the year, so at one floor every two weeks, would be only 12 or 13 more floors. But I do think that they will speed up later, so I think there would be more, about 20)


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Old Posted Jul 23, 2014, 11:30 PM
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Holy crap, this had already begun?

Amazing.
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2014, 12:24 PM
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"tenants ... are expected to move in by July 2015"

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Holy crap, this had already begun?

Amazing.
It began a while ago; the ongoing construction linked to the surrounding overbuild of the LIRR's West Side Storage Yard, etc. is a very complicated project. The web media are repeating the following WRT occupancy:
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10 Hudson Yards, started to go vertical last year. Its tenants – which include Coach, L’Oréal and SAP – are expected to move in by July 2015.
http://www.yimbynews.com/2014/07/per...son-yards.html

ny.curbed has an extensive amount of photos with text regarding the complexity of the "Hudson Yards" project. the photos are from a media tour last week, so a number of other websites have/will have similar articles (though probably less photos) :

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2014/0...ction_site.php


If you're talking about views of this project from Jersey: you might see the really tall tower (30 HY) start to rise out of the ground clutter late next year.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 30, 2014, 4:52 AM
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It's starting to get big.













Coach atrium is taking shape.
























     
     
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Old Posted Jul 30, 2014, 6:34 PM
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Finally seems to be growing vertically at a bit faster rate. Big and bulky and just under 900ft is going to seem monstrous over there at first.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 30, 2014, 8:06 PM
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Finally seems to be growing vertically at a bit faster rate. Big and bulky and just under 900ft is going to seem monstrous over there at first.
The section of the High Line at the Rail Yards to the west (left in ILNY(_) photo below) of 10 HY will open later his year, so you will have yet another "up-close" vantage point to see what it looks like. I assume by then they will have taken down even more of the lower level scaffolding.

"Coach atrium is taking shape."

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I'm assuming the currently closed HL section shown in the Max Touhey photo below will be one of the two access point for the HL @ RY. 10 HY is at left:

Max Touhey, curbed.com
     
     
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Another Game Changer!

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/04/fa...l?ref=nyregion

It took 107 years, but Neiman Marcus is moving to Manhattan.

The Dallas-based company is opening a 250,000-square-foot store in Hudson Yards on the Far West Side in 2018. The lease was signed on Tuesday, said Karen Katz, the chief executive of Neiman Marcus Group.

“We needed to make sure that if we were taking this big, big step of coming to Manhattan, that we had a store that was going to be very impressive,” she said, speaking by phone from her Dallas office.

The store, which will be the centerpiece of a new retail complex by Related Companies, the developer of the Hudson Yards project, will be between 31st and 32nd Streets on 10th Avenue. Neiman Marcus will have prominent signage on the facade of the seven-story building, and will occupy space on floors five through seven. It will be allotted more than 80,000 square feet per floor. It is the first retailer that Related has announced for Hudson Yards.

“This entire project has been bespoke-tailored around Neiman Marcus,” said Kenneth Himmel, the executive at Related who is in charge of the retail and leasing at Hudson Yards.

“This is a game changer for Hudson Yards, for the West Side of New York, for Manhattan,” he continued. “It’s not just an anchor tenant. It makes a statement for our project.”

Neiman Marcus’s move into Manhattan is the latest by a department store at a time when many players are expanding and spending freely to take advantage of what they describe as a growing luxury market. The president of Saks Fifth Avenue, Marigay McKee, has been given about $1 billion to spend on Saks’s stores throughout the country over the next few years, with a good portion of that dedicated to the flagship store in Midtown.

Neiman Marcus, which also owns Bergdorf Goodman, is giving that landmark store at 58th Street and Fifth Avenue a sizable renovation as well. The Bergdorf president, Joshua Schulman, called the floor-by-floor renovation, to be completed by 2020, an “ambitious capital plan.”

And why is all this money being spent right now?

“There are more affluent consumers in the market,” Ms. Katz said. “I think there’s been wealth created since the recession.”

She said that Bergdorf Goodman would continue to serve the “very top of luxury and fashion,” while the new West Side Neiman Marcus store would “appeal to a broader luxury and fashion customer.”

“The number of tourists coming through Hudson Yards and the population that will be moving to and living in the West Side of the city will continue to grow,” she said. “We’ll be serving those customers.”

Mr. Himmel said that the original plan for the retail complex (which will have about one million square feet in all, far more than the 330,000 square feet of retail space at Related’s Time Warner Center) was to have a six-floor building capped off with a movie theater and restaurants. Related then considered putting in a department store, and that’s when he reached out to Neiman Marcus.

“There are only a few names to call,” he said. “When we figured out that we’d like to see if we could fit a department store in here, they were the logical party to call.”
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Ms. Katz said that she was not in pursuit of a Manhattan store (“We were extremely well represented in the city,” she said, referring to Bergdorf Goodman), but after she heard from Mr. Himmel, she became intrigued by the West Side and “how Manhattan has changed in the last 10 or 11 years.” As of now, the Neiman Marcus store closest to Manhattan is the one in Paramus, N.J.

Talks began a year ago, and even though Neiman Marcus Group was sold for $6 billion while they were discussing the project, it didn’t affect the negotiations, both parties said.

“They’re extremely excited about this project with Hudson Yards and have been very, very supportive,” Ms. Katz said, referring to the new owners, Ares Management and the Canadian Pension Plan Investment Board. “From the minute we started talking to them about it, they were very encouraging for us to pursue this.”

By the time this opens, it will be the 43rd Neiman Marcus full-line store in the United States.

Neiman Marcus will hardly be alone when it moves to the West Side. Time Warner is to relocate its headquarters there by 2018. L’Oréal and Coach are likewise moving into office space in a 52-story tower at the corner of 30th Street and 10th Avenue. The Culture Shed, which will be on 30th Street between 10th and 11th Avenues, is a prospective new home for New York Fashion Week.

New York Fashion Week, by the way, begins Thursday, and Neiman Marcus and Related are planning to host an invitation-only cocktail party on Friday evening overlooking the Hudson Yards construction site to celebrate the new marriage.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 3, 2014, 9:47 PM
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More good news. Nothing in the United States will ever approach NYC in terms of sheer amazingness.

The amount of retail. top tier and super-tall buildings in and coming to this city puts it in a special league. I know I complain endlessly about the awful, low-budget buildings being thrown up by terrorists like McSam, but in general - NYC is on a roll.

This building alone would transform any American cityscape but it's just a drop in the bucket in NYC.
     
     
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I once had a professor from Rutgers tell me that NYC is not America and does not stand for what the U.S. is about. I'm like no, its what America can be and is a fine example of what we are capable of. One of those Greek professors. Jealousy, thats all it is!
     
     
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This retail will be a game changer for the West Side. A flagship Neiman Marcus and a 1.1 million square foot luxury retail complex are serious commercial anchors.

That's more retail than in the WTC Center + Brookfield Place + Fulton Center combined.

Also, the claim that "department stores are dying" sure doesn't seem true in NYC. You have flagship locations for Neiman Marcus, Nordstrom (57th Street), and Barneys (Chelsea) on their way, Saks is in negotiations for Brookfield Place, and there are rumors of Macys uptown. Meanwhile all the original department stores are undergoing significant renovations or expansions.

There's even a big new Macys that just opened in the Bronx.
     
     
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... and the tower keeps growing.


















Was/is there stop work order? There was no work done on last Saturday and cranes had no hooks. They are usually very busy on Saturdays.










     
     
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^Great updates.

What will happen here though? From the article.

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Hudson Yards shovel-ready

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Finally seems to be growing vertically at a bit faster rate. Big and bulky and just under 900ft is going to seem monstrous over there at first.
It already looks monstrous from the street level highline entrance.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 7, 2014, 2:48 AM
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we should get some great wraparound views of coach tower and hudson yards construction from now on when section three of the high line opens up on sept 21!
     
     
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Update for 9/19/2014 - Cladding going up!

















Edit: The spot where the Fairway's going is progressing quickly.


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