Tucson Development Thread - Page 246

Anqrew · #**4901** Posted **May 14, 2014, 1:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ted Lyons

The building next to Claim Jumper is going to be a Mattress Firm. The lot across from Starbuck's is evidently this: http://www.cheddars.com/

Is it just me or are these Mattress Firm stores EVERYWHERE?! But I was curious what was going on. I also noticed the McDonalds on speedway and Campbell was torn down, apparently they're rebuilding it. So that in combination with the redevelopment of that corner should be nice.

Ted Lyons · #**4902** Posted **May 14, 2014, 2:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by Anqrew

Is it just me or are these Mattress Firm stores EVERYWHERE?! But I was curious what was going on. I also noticed the McDonalds on speedway and Campbell was torn down, apparently they're rebuilding it. So that in combination with the redevelopment of that corner should be nice.

There are a lot of Mattress Firms. It will only get worse with their acquisition of Bedmart.

In regard to Cheddar's, I don't eat at chains much but they seem to have really high food quality ratings and the buildings are supposedly very nice.

Ritarancher · #**4903** Posted **May 14, 2014, 2:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ted Lyons

The building next to Claim Jumper is going to be a Mattress Firm. The lot across from Starbuck's is evidently this: http://www.cheddars.com/

The mattress bubble in this city is going to bust soon...

aznate27 · #**4904** Posted **May 14, 2014, 3:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by Qwijib0

Claim jumper is rarely busy, I wonder how it will do.

Um, what? Claim Jumpers is always busy. I was just there and it was busy. They have waits every weekend and that place is huge.

andrewsaturn · #**4905** Posted **May 14, 2014, 5:21 AM**

LOL yes isn't there one already on Broadway and craycroft? They must be doing well to open up so many here.

andrewsaturn · #**4906** Posted **May 14, 2014, 5:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by aznate27

Um, what? Claim Jumpers is always busy. I was just there and it was busy. They have waits every weekend and that place is huge.

Ditto. Every time I go its busy. But the times I do go are on the weekends during the evenings which are always the peak times.

farmerk · #**4907** Posted **May 14, 2014, 10:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ritarancher

The mattress bubble in this city is going to bust soon...

Unlikely with the huge number of elderly. Beds, dentures, walgreens, clapper and prune juice is big business in this 'town'

farmerk · #**4908** Posted **May 14, 2014, 10:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by aznate27

Um, what? Claim Jumpers is always busy. I was just there and it was busy. They have waits every weekend and that place is huge.

Claim Jumpers and a grocery store at downtown west would be useful for the streetcar. That would make 3 grocery stores within the streetcar route. I personally like to shop to different grocery stores each month.

Qwijib0 · #**4909** Posted **May 14, 2014, 10:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by aznate27

Um, what? Claim Jumpers is always busy. I was just there and it was busy. They have waits every weekend and that place is huge.

I guess I just eat at odd hours. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

garygeo · #**4910** Posted **May 15, 2014, 3:31 AM**

I received a letter in the mail describing a re-zoning request for a new resort on the east side of town. The resort would be oriented toward bicycle enthusiast. Personally, I think it is an interesting idea and if done right could be a nice addition to the area. I of course don't live next to it.

Today, on the drive home I saw a sign and 2 men with a petition, on Escalante and Houghton, to get public support to oppose the re-zoning.

farmerk · #**4911** Posted **May 15, 2014, 8:53 AM**

@garygeo, Didn't know there's such thing as a bike resort. I hope that bike resort looks nice. Tucson , a biking mecca, could use one.

Buffalo Exchange closing downtown Tucson store. That's the bad news.

The good news - "Michael Keith, CEO of the Downtown Tucson Partnership. “It’s becoming increasingly clear we need to address how to sustain and expand retail downtown and what programs we might put in place to do that.”

Answer : Urban Target or Walmart.

Something like this downtown west

Ritarancher · #**4912** Posted **May 15, 2014, 3:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by garygeo

I received a letter in the mail describing a re-zoning request for a new resort on the east side of town. The resort would be oriented toward bicycle enthusiast. Personally, I think it is an interesting idea and if done right could be a nice addition to the area. I of course don't live next to it.

Today, on the drive home I saw a sign and 2 men with a petition on Escalante and Houghton to working getting public support to oppose the re-zoning.

How old and white were the protesters? They're just upset there isn't another Matter Firm

farmerk · #**4913** Posted **May 17, 2014, 1:32 AM**

El Con Mall may be sold; announcement expected early next week

I hope the new owners replace this mall with something more modern.

Ted Lyons · #**4914** Posted **May 17, 2014, 5:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by farmerk

El Con Mall may be sold; announcement expected early next week

I hope the new owners replace this mall with something more modern.

There is literally 0% chance the mall is "replaced." This is ridiculous.

aznate27 · #**4915** Posted **May 17, 2014, 7:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by farmerk

El Con Mall may be sold; announcement expected early next week

I hope the new owners replace this mall with something more modern.

Dude, When was the last time you were there??? It's practically brand new. No one's going to replace anything, I agree with Ted.

farmerk · #**4916** Posted **May 17, 2014, 8:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by aznate27

Dude, When was the last time you were there??? It's practically brand new. No one's going to replace anything, I agree with Ted.

If you're referring to the old mall building, you're right I haven't been in there in years. That's the one I want replaced. I don't like that building

farmerk · #**4917** Posted **May 17, 2014, 9:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ted Lyons

There is literally 0% chance the mall is "replaced." This is ridiculous.

Nope. Disagree.

That area has been de-malled last few years with Target, Home Depot, Starbucks, Walmart etc... around the mall building proper. I won't be surprised if that building gets demolished with a new building.

The owner Kroenke has an estimated worth of $5.6 billion. He's no local developer.

"Kroenke is married to Walmart founder Sam Walton’s daughter, Ann Walton"

So there's literally greater than 0% chance that mall being replaced.

EDIT:
I believe we got our "Elon Musk" in Tucson. Who knows what Kroenke , a Walton, could do in Tucson. I did a wiki on this guy - "he has been in the special position to develop many of the plazas near Wal-Mart stores". Silent Stan is into sports and real estate - arena in Tucson? Apartment high rise in downtown old pueblo? A billionaire interested in Tucson is a big deal and unheard of in a very long time. The last billionaire interested in Tucson made a very huge foot print in our economy - Howard Hughes .

EDIT Part 2:
Might wanna google "Stan Kroenke". He deals with large projects on a global scale. He's also a recluse.

Ted Lyons · #**4918** Posted **May 17, 2014, 5:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by farmerk

If you're referring to the old mall building, you're right I haven't been in there in years. That's the one I want replaced. I don't like that building

The original mall building hasn't existed for a couple of years. I see that you are just uninformed of what has been happening at El Con so I'll just leave it at that.

Anqrew · #**4919** Posted **May 18, 2014, 1:20 AM**

Yeah the actual "el con mall" doesn't exist anymore, it was demolished a few years ago, all that exists now are the separate stores and a sort of outdoor corridor connecting them all where the mall hallway once stood. It's also since been referred to as "el con center"

farmerk · #**4920** Posted **May 18, 2014, 6:10 AM**

Thanks for the update. Surfing further, Kroenke's real estate company is into strip malls.

Looks like it's his first real estate investment in Arizona. If he does invest in other things in Tucson, hopefully he'll let go of his taste for the cheap looking strip mall architecture

Now, I can see why he married someone from the Walmart clan